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Game changer study may 2022

Originally Posted by igigi
Gomero, I believe once permanent elongation has been achieved, there is along process of ECM reorganization which includes recruiting of satellite stem cells for growth of new tissue. Also in your example of muscle, there is plenty of science on the effects of IGF-1 and muscle hyperplasia, ligament and connective tissue growth. For years I have been reading about these topics looking for the ultimate protocol. There are some novel protein and enzymes that we could greatly benefit from such as BMP proteins, SHH and others but we need the knowledge and infrastructure in order to properly prepare them for us.

igigi,

I do think we are getting near that ultimate protocol. That might sound overly optimistic since we still lack some data but we are much closer and have 20+ years of empirical data to compliment these latest study results.

I think the 10 to 20 hour rule is pretty much golden although I haven’t been able to get 10 hours in a week for quite a while I might be getting about 7:00 some weeks

I have been trying something different the past month and a half or so and I want to give that some time.

Having said that if one can hang extremely heavy weight up to 30 to 40 lb that could work as well with the right attachment closer to the head than the base of course not too close to the Head.

So if deformation can occur with the use of an extender with not much stress then that goes the reason that after the heavy hanging is done you have to hang a certain amount of time to deform if you’re not getting results from heavy hanging alone?

Originally Posted by Peispossible

So if deformation can occur with the use of an extender with not much stress then that goes the reason that after the heavy hanging is done you have to hang a certain amount of time to deform if you’re not getting results from heavy hanging alone?

If we can figure this out then it will most likely be a game changer. The placement of that really heavy set within the normal schedule of sets is key. I think that it might have to be at the end of the daily sets.I would then remove hanger and edge for 10 minutes.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
If we can figure this out then it will most likely be a game changer. The placement of that really heavy set within the normal schedule of sets is key. I think that it might have to be at the end of the daily sets.I would then remove hanger and edge for 10 minutes.

Ive been doing heavy for me, about 10-15 mins in and at the end of the first set. Or , in the second set. I haven’t tried it but my unit can not handle even sometimes moderate heavy weight after 3-4 sets . My unit after a couple back to back heavier sets is definitely not optimal, sometimes not at all. Porn could help but I tend to take breaks on porn for many days at a time, even weeks. Using it too much is negative. You’re saying after all sets are done, edge ten mins , then hang heaviest?


Last edited by Peispossible : 08-21-2022 at .

Originally Posted by Peispossible
Ive been doing heavy for me, about 10-15 mins in and at the end of the first set. Or , in the second set. I haven’t tried it but my unit can not handle even sometimes moderate heavy weight after 3-4 sets . My unit after a couple back to back heavier sets is definitely not optimal, sometimes not at all. Porn could help but I tend to take breaks on porn for many days at a time, even weeks. Using it too much is negative. You’re saying after all sets are done, edge ten mins , then hang heaviest?

I am saying to do the 5 minute set at the end of al the sets and THEN edge for ten minutes. After the heaviest set you don´t want to Han any weight on it after that and just edge for ten minutes.

Just for clearance, I wasn’t talking about wearing ads 24/7. There are other ways to keep dick in extended state (just not above bpfsl), like sleeves, sheaths, etc, that if they fit well, will hold your unit without messing circulation, while keeping you longer than normal flaccid. So that it rests like that. Lol imagine a 24 hour ads marathon. No way you don’t get blisters in the skin .

I today started hanging. I made a quick sudaca version that has many many flaws but ut keeps in place, although I just noticed I was doing it too near the glans. Will correct that in next session. So I’ll keep an eye on evolution and do my calculations see if it’s going for the better (or worse). it was a good sensation. found a sweet spot weight at 3,5kg.

On the other hand, I’m looking for the links you asked for on mitosis and still haven’t found them back, but have not forgotten either. Some of them were posted on this very forum.


inicial 1996: BPEL 15cm (Margin of error +/- 0.5cm) MSEG: 14.1 cm

inicio extender (sept2012): 15,5cm BPEL /14,1cm MSEG --- Hanging: inicio: Ago 21 2022 21.0cm --- Ultima medicion: Sept 1 2022: 21.6cm BPEL x 15,1cm MSEG

Meta: 28cm BPEL x 21cm MSEG -- si, quiero tenerla mas gorda que tu vieja. jaja


Last edited by redmorsilla : 08-21-2022 at .

Originally Posted by redmorsilla
Just for clearance, I wasn’t talking about wearing ads 24/7.

Thanks for clarifying! I was like, “is this a thing? Might attempt?”

I’ve worn my ADS under higher tension for 8 hrs once, I was exhausted! Up to 6hrs feels about right.


Start (8/30/21): 6.5"BPEL X 5.25" MSEG

Now (12/5/22): 8.75" BPEL X 5.75" MSEG

Goal 9.5"BPEL X 7" MSEG My Journey

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon

Seems that 10-14 hours a week was the old school PE rule.

Maybe we can work for 1 hour a day?

Originally Posted by Jianhai Shou
Maybe we can work for 1 hour a day?

More than likely not, after newb gains are maxed. That said, its possible hanging three sets and somewhere in the set going heavier for five minutes, then reducing weight, I would think would be the most efficient way to

1. Get best bang for your time
2. Get best possible tunica deformation enough time see results.

The only way you’ll know if it can work for you, is to try it. It didn’t seem to work for me when I hung an hour a day. It helped maintaining and cementing but no noticable results I could tell.

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
I am saying to do the 5 minute set at the end of al the sets and THEN edge for ten minutes. After the heaviest set you don´t want to Han any weight on it after that and just edge for ten minutes.

I don’t think it matters when heaviest weight is used, as long as it’s used frequently enough. I tried hanging heaviest weight , at the end , and had to dismantle, extreme grit your teeth, way past fatigue.

Originally Posted by Peispossible
More than likely not, after newb gains are maxed. That said, its possible hanging three sets and somewhere in the set going heavier for five minutes, then reducing weight, I would think would be the most efficient way to

1. Get best bang for your time
2. Get best possible tunica deformation enough time see results.

The only way you’ll know if it can work for you, is to try it. It didn’t seem to work for me when I hung an hour a day. It helped maintaining and cementing but no noticable results I could tell.


Ok,I will try it.

Originally Posted by Peispossible
I don’t think it matters when heaviest weight is used, as long as it’s used frequently enough. I tried hanging heaviest weight , at the end , and had to dismantle, extreme grit your teeth, way past fatigue.

Did you do that heavy set every day or did you do it every other day? I suggest every other day.

Originally Posted by redmorsilla
Just for clearance, I wasn’t talking about wearing ads 24/7. There are other ways to keep dick in extended state (just not above bpfsl), like sleeves, sheaths, etc, that if they fit well, will hold your unit without messing circulation, while keeping you longer than normal flaccid. So that it rests like that. Lol imagine a 24 hour ads marathon. No way you don’t get blisters in the skin .

I today started hanging. I made a quick sudaca version that has many many flaws but ut keeps in place, although I just noticed I was doing it too near the glans. Will correct that in next session. So I’ll keep an eye on evolution and do my calculations see if it’s going for the better (or worse). it was a good sensation. found a sweet spot weight at 3,5kg.

On the other hand, I’m looking for the links you asked for on mitosis and still haven’t found them back, but have not forgotten either. Some of them were posted on this very forum.

This seems to be interesting.

Traction forces release growth factors from cells to heal wounds – Physics World

Originally Posted by gomitadelimon
Did you do that heavy set every day or did you do it every other day? I suggest every other day.

Every other day, then every few days. Then, every day. Recently, poundage has increased. Of course weights are reduced from too much , for too long. Thank you for the idea, and suggestion. Today poundage went down fast. This recent increased weight, will be used, every few days, or every other day.

yesterday did my second day of hanging. I found out heavier set in the beginning will provoke strong lig sensation that would linger throughout the next lower weight sessions. That does not happen the other way around (increasing weight). So yes, I’m starting with a higher payload then work the next sessions wile lowering weight from session to session. I start with around 3.5 to 4kg then lower to 2,8kg then 2kg. Sessions last from 15 to 20 minutes. I do not move the thing at max weight, but I do some swings on the lower weights setup. Do you feel swinging is beneficial or it’s just for fun?

I know 4kg is a lot for my second day of hanging. But I’ve been stretching with an extensor at 3kg for quite a while now, guess that’s why I don’t really feel a strong lig pull with lower weights. I guess I could lower to 3.5kg for starting session and 1 more session at that weight see if that makes me feel the stress on the lig, then work from there.


inicial 1996: BPEL 15cm (Margin of error +/- 0.5cm) MSEG: 14.1 cm

inicio extender (sept2012): 15,5cm BPEL /14,1cm MSEG --- Hanging: inicio: Ago 21 2022 21.0cm --- Ultima medicion: Sept 1 2022: 21.6cm BPEL x 15,1cm MSEG

Meta: 28cm BPEL x 21cm MSEG -- si, quiero tenerla mas gorda que tu vieja. jaja

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