Low LOTter's any success?

So I’m starting at a 6 o’ clock LOT. Damn. My erect length is slightly more then 6.5 inches and my girth is not too impressive. I had thought at one time I was making progress, I was not measuring correctly. So all of you unfortunate souls like myself who have begun with low LOTs, have you made any progess and if so with what techniques?

The rice sock fulcrum, OTS, SU, and SO are the only suggestions I can find and no one has really claimed that these techniques have done them any good. Except however, the anonymous gentleman who offered the rice sock idea to Bib in the first place. Jelqing has given me some girth gains but I was under the impression that one should not focus on their girth until after length was taken care of.

I am really shooting for the 8 inch cliche but it looks like I am going to have a long windy road ahead of me full of ambiguity as to what is working because simply hanging BTC or SD will not help. This is frustrating and slightly disheartening, I originally was inspired by Dino’s and Bib’s success but alas they had high LOT’s.

Can anyone offer links or suggestions as to effective hanging technique with low LOTs, more specifically can anyone of a testomonial and say this has worked for me. 8x6 guys I have nearly 1.5 inches to gain both ways.

>You speak of the ligaments always always being the area where the gains come from but isn’t is reasonable to think other tissues at the base of the penis might be growing/stretching as well like the CC’s/CS/(maybe even tunica) other then just the ligaments?<

>Sure but they aren’t going to add length when the ligs are the skeleton that all is supported by. If the ligs don’t grow then it doesn’t matter what happens to the other structures they will just be loose tissues. The ligs have to lengthen before the other structures come under enough stress to force them to grow. I think that is why Newbie’s get very good growth initially because the ligs allow themselves to be stretched and the other structures accommodate, but when the ligs move beyond the accommodation of those other structures then you have gain slowdown because your demanding growth from both areas. Therefore in answer to your question more directly, the other tissues MUST grow in order to get overall gain but the ligs are the first thing that needs to give.< Monty

Any insight, do I need to throw in the towel for length and just focus on girth? Can length gains only be attributed to ligs, and if so according to LOT theory I am sort of fucked in this department right?

Thanks again guys,
Bugs

Oops, disregard the original edit. I totally missed us being in the hanger’s forum. But I am curious to hear about this, as after the newbie routine, I’ll be trying out hanging as well, and my LOT is the same.

Unless people’s beliefs about LOT being ineffective apply here too.

i heard the LOT theory was dismissed

Some people gained like 1/2” hanging with a 6 oclock LOT… I would try it for a month, and then if nothing happens go to straight up.

it seems to be pretty much completely debunked and ignored now by those in the know.

Same as the warmdown which is now all about the cooldown at the end of a workout.

Hi could you explain what you mean by this? Are people now saying using a hot wrap at the end of a work out is not useful?

I still dont know how to work out my LOT. Is it anything to do with erection level because mine is very high? I am not the brightest lol, if anyone could give a quick explination i would be greatful.

Bib’s LOT Theory 101

No it has nothing to do with erection angle. I don’t think it is something to be dismissed either.

Having a high LOT means you have the potential for quick gains from stretching the ligament down, having a low LOT doesn’t mean PE is totally useless to you and you wont gain.

Great just worked it out and i have more like a 5 o clock LOT if you get what i mean. so I have 6 LOT. Nice boost there, not, arrrrrrr. Does this mean I should be mainly stretching up then?

Your LOT is the very first sign of loss of tugback, I think a lot of people do it wrong and get mad and say LOT theory is bogus so they don’t get down in their motivation lol.

If indeed your LOT is 6 then you should be doing the angles that benefit your tunica more, Straight out and over the shoulder works the tunica well, also using a RSDT fulcrum (rice sock duck tape) will help make gains easier but you can not hang with a fulcrum 100% of the time or else your tunica will not be stressed evenly.

Dont you mean very first sign of loss of tugback?

Yep it has already dented my motivation if im measuring correctly.

Yeah thanks for pointing that out quickly!

Don’t let it effect your motivation bro, with enough time put into your daily routine gains from your tunica come smoothly, also the higher angles are said to raise your LOT back to a higher number.

I was told i should be stretching downwards due to high erection level, now im supposed to be strectching upwards? I cant even grip the bloody thing to stretch upwards. Man this has pissed me of so bad.

I havnt seen many jumping on this thread saying theyve gained with low LOT either. I hope the LOT theory is wrong lol.

bluray, what makes you think RSDT works? All of it is hype. I love Bigger just as much as the next guy but one random dude told Bigger it works…he vouched for it…and now it’s accepted wisdom that RSDT works and is great. I wish people would put things under more scrutiny before pushing them.

BTW, I have hung BTC with the hardcore for several years and love it.

I’ve studied the LOT theory and believe that you should focus on which ever angle you feel the most stretch in the centre and base of your penis. I used to perform primarily downward stretches (due to my High LOT) which I believe have contributed to most of my length gains, I now only perform dry and wet jelqs for increasing length and girth.