Ratio of hours hanging per day versus gains.

I think this question is aimed mostly at Bib but not sure because I think I read where you said that the amount of gain you get goes down each hour a day that you hang past one. What I’m trying to figure out is if I should hang for 5 sets of 20 min instead of 3 per day instead of just 1, especially since I want to get to 7.5 fast, or hang am and pm or something like that upping my hanging hours per day or if I should just wait it out for the long haul and take my gains slowly? Tanks

I am moving this to the hanger’s forum so you get more attention on it. I think I know what you are talking about, but have to look it up for you. If someone else can find it, please do so. Thanks in Advance.

In general, the more time you put in the better. Bib recommends working up to hanging at least 10 hours per week. Some can gain with less time; others may need more. Eventually you want to reach a state of mild/moderate fatigue and spend time there.

Somewhere is a point of diminishing returns. For example, hanging 8 hours per day probably won’t make you gain twice as fast as 4 hours per day. I think that’s what Bib was getting at. Also, fatigue may eventually be your guide when you’ve had enough. It’s recommended to hang consecutive sets until you’ve had to reduce the weight to half of your max. That’s a rough guide of the level of fatigue desired.

Several guys who have gained very well from hanging put in multiple hours (4 or more) daily. Jelktoid is one example.

> What I’m trying to figure out is if I should hang for 5 sets of 20 min instead of 3 per day instead of just 1

I don’t understand exactly what you’re asking. Having at least one longer hanging session is better than scattered sets throughout the day. You’ll get more fatigued doing multiple sets in a row. If you don’t have time to do all your sets for the day in one session you could split them morning and evening.

> or if I should just wait it out for the long haul and take my gains slowly?

It takes time. Don’t get in such a rush that you jump up in time or weight too quickly and end up hurting yourself. That would only set you back. Resist the temptation.

If you are new to hanging, start out with just a couple short sets per day with light weight. Try different wraps, wrapping methods and hanger settings until you find what works for you. Then add another set. Do 3 for a while. Then add another, and so on until you fill up all the hanging time you have available. Then you can gradually increase the weight.

Newbie hangers shouldn’t get in a rush to reach fatigue. The ligs and tunica are usually relatively tough compared to the softer tissues (skin, blood vessels, nerves). The first stage is allowing these sensitive bits time to condition. As they do, and you move up in time and/or weight, eventually the target tissues will be stressed enough to become fatigued.

Check out the “Hanging Fatigue” thread started by Alrdybig.

Time is the critical factor in hanging. Hang as many sets as you can and as Hobby said, aim for 10 hours per week.

Having said that, I have been gaining at about 1/16 per month hanging no more than 7 hours per week.

Awsome consistent gains Andrew, that is what I’m looking for… and what I shall attain in the near future.

Andrew69,

Nice progression. Just for shits and giggles I think you should talk about your weekly and daily schedule a bit more. Sets? Hours per day? Are all of your almost 2 inches from hanging?

Again, nice slow steady gains. Thats what its about.

About the gains/hours ratio, I gained right away with 3x15 min, so if that’s all someone can fit into their schedule then very possibly it’s still well worthwhile, at least when done consecutively and of course with the adequate weight for the condition of your unit.

As hobby points out, diminishing returns must set in at some point. Going by feel here (limited experience)… I’m inclined to believe that 60 min will give you gains from the last 15 min which are at least as good as the gains from the 15 previous min, just because the target area of your unit is (more) fatigued during the last 15 min. Where the positive curve drops I can’t really estimate but I actually don’t think it’s bound to eventually drop anywhere near a total of counterproduction, as is the case with regular BB: the neck stretching ladies (in some far away from here place) wear the rings all the time* (if they didn’t their neck would break). An ADS/ANS if you like.

Just my guessing on how a normal gains/hours ratio curve looks… Please bear in mind that I’m writing this in sand, with a rough stick.
1 hour/day is more than twice as productive as 30 min.
2 hours/day is not quite twice as productive as 1 hour.
8 hours/day is possibly more productive than 4, but nowhere near twice as productive.
Finally: 6 hours/day is possibly at least as productive as 8.

*) Hypothetically, if they could sleep without them, I’d expect they’d gain neck EL quicker, weighing in the important healing factor.

Personal hanging background, brief overview:
BTC for 10 weeks now and have had very encouraging initial gains: .6” EL. Yesterday I hung for a full 2 hours during one day, for the first time so far. I’ve been gradually increasing time and weight from 45 min; 4# to currently 12#. The one regret I have is upping the weight just a little quicker than I would have liked to: getting back from breaks of two days and more, each time I found the weight used the last time to be a very easy load on the ligaments.
I now try to limit my timeouts when possible; routinely less than two days. I hope to be able to hang for at least 2 hours/day for >5 days/week, and not having to move up in weight so often.

Awsome info Ideal. Thanks a lot for your input!

Thanks for the kind works Guys!

Almost 1 and 3/4 inches of my gains was from maunal exercises. Mostly jelqs with some stretching. Only the last 1/4 inch was from hanging.

I turned to hanging because I hit a plateau I could not bust through with manual exercises, even after an extended break (5 weeks). I did gain a quick 1/4 inch when I restarted, then hit a plateau again.

I generally aim to hang 4 sets of 20 minutes per day. I had just recently reached 10 lbs, but after reading the excellent posts by BBS in the “Hanging Fatigue” Thread I have dropped back to 8.85 pounds and I have to say, I feel more of a workout with 8.85 than with 10 pounds. I know it sounds crazy, but just as BBS said, I no longer feel then weight, just its effects after each set. It really is amazing.

Anyway, as I was saying, I aim for 4 sets, but don’t always achieve that. Some days I only manage 2, others 5. It depends on how I am feeling and how much time I have to work with.

I don’t take any days off unless I feel it necessary at the time. Generally its 7 days per week. I think I can manage that because of two reasons;

1. I’m still hanging only relatively light weights and;

2. I do drop my sets down to 2 per day on the weekend. I do this because I don’t want to overstress my dick due to my 7 day hanging schedule, and I want to make sure their is no possibility of any ED on “date night”:chuckle: Besides, there are other things to life than just PE and I love spending time with my family!!

As I said, I got into hanging because of my lack of progress, but hanging lets me multi-task so time is no longer a factor when it comes to a routine.

I simply set up, warm up, hang and then get on with business. At the end of each set, I take a break and then go again.

I was hanging early on SD or BTC, but have now switched to SO. My LOT is fairly low (7:00 - 7:30) and I get so much more done hanging SO as it is much more comfortable than sitting on the edge of my chair. I have still yet to see or come up with a really effective OTS set up that suits me. I guess I will sort something out sooner or later.

I am happy with my progress. 1/16 may not sound like much, but by the time I have been PEing for 1 year, I should be nudging 7.3 - 7.4 inches BPEL which would mean a total gain of 2.3-2.4 inches in a year. About the only person happier than me would be my wife!

Max,
Thanks. If anyone whishes to comment on the curve thing, please do. It’s just meant to encourage debating: Question it, agree with it, mock it, anything. I took a stab; somebody else take theirs

Andrew,
That’s a very nice total progress; I think especially since it goes all the way from sub-average to approaching big. Those are IMO the “real thing” success stories of PE, the potentially life changing.

I agree with you on the input of BBS in the fatigue thread, it’s valuable. This week I’m trying to drop a little weight… I think I’m one of those who don’t feel the fatigue but after 3-4 sets with 12#, my shaft feels the weight — although I’m primarily targeting the ligament area.
I also agree with the SO; I could get more useful things done alongside with SO or OTS than with BTC. But then my BTC work has been good for gains so far, so until my LOT is way down I’ll keep on watching movies and let my deskwork suffer.

Ideal,

EXACTLY!!
I have experimenting for the last few days and I feel for more fatigued, but my shaft has zero soreness. It seems like a win/win situation.
I think I may try and hang with the lower weight till my next measurement day (end of June), but gradually increase the total time hanging as much as possible.
My only regret is that I don’t have any “before” picture of my dick (hell I don’t have any current photos either!). I know many men try PE and give in too quickly when they don’t see immediate gains. Actually, I think if I didn’t see my quick early gains, I may have been one of them!
You are right when you say it has been life changing. My flaccid hang has increased by almost 1 inch ( I think, I never measured myself flaccid) and I have a wry smile on my face now every time I whip it out to take a leak. I feel far more confident in any situation where getting changed is concerned and I feel like a stud in bed :chuckle:

I’ve wondered why men give up like that. Either they are just too busy to put enough time into it, or more likely, just didn’t want it bad enough. Perhaps in some cases they don’t believe enough that it does make a difference with many women, or figuring to just try and make up the difference with their tongue. In other cases some guys just aren’t willing to put much effort into anything no matter how much they want it.

If your looking for easy increased hang time, try the golf weight thing. I think it’s making a big difference. Low weight but all day long.

If I were to use this, I’d most likely have to be standing all day long in order to get a good hang? Is that right or no?

No, I just go on with my work or whatever. Obviously requires a loose pair of pants but it really doesn’t interfere with anything. I’m up and down all day at work but I do a lot of sitting. I’ll tell ya with that many hours being racked up my gains are exciting. If you notice my signature the time interval between 04-2004 and 06-2004 in actuality was only 6 weeks. My heavy hanging is not daily and even then I’ve only been able to get in one 20 min set, occasionally two. Two pounds all day really seems to work and no one has noticed. I think the heavy hang stretch is just enabling the ADS to work, otherwise I think I would plateau. Maybe that will happen anyway. We’ll see.