Donut?

Gents,

I’ve been pumping for about 3 weeks now, and I have a question.

Before last night my routine was to do manual stretches, then jelqs, then pump for 20 minutes at 3-4 inches of mercury. I never noticed any kind of swelling or anything that I thought was a donut, although honestly I was never clear on what the infamous donut was supposed to look like. I figured I would know it if I saw it. I did usually have a very nice plump flaccid hang afterwards which I really liked.

This routine was bothering me, however, because lube from the jelqs would allow a lot of my scrotum to get sucked up into the tube over time, not matter how I tried to position myself to keep that from happening. Eventually it would press my balls (actually always my right one for some reason) up against the rim of the tube, which was a bit uncomfortable. I also felt that this is taking something away from girth growth since the scrotum packs the bottom third of the length of my dick. I decided to switch jelqing and pumping in the routine to try to eliminate that problem.

So last night, and again this morning, I did stretches, then pumping, then jelqs. Both times, as I was jelqing, I noticed some lymphatic fluid build up right at my circ scar on the bottom of my penis. Just a big inverted V of puffy skin that obviously had fluid build up. It died away on the sides, and was not there at all on the top. The first time, I did not notice it until I was jelqing. The secoond time, this morning, I looked for it as I finished pumping and it did not seem to be there, but as I started to jelq it was. I guess I am not 100% sure it was not there when I came out of the tube.

I’ve never noticed it before, but then again pumping was always last on the routine and since it is on the underside I could have easily missed it.

Is this the dreaded donut effect? It was not what I was expecting. Do I need to do something? It is not painful, and both times subsided within a few hours. No soreness, tenderness, or discoloration that I can see. It is not something that I would want permanently, though.

P.S. At the same time, I also switched from doing 10x30 second stretches to 2x3 minute stretches to try out something from another thread. I don’t see how this would be related, but in the interests of full disclosure, there you have it.

Yes HR it is the dreaded D. It’s not harmful in it’s way, providing you don’t allow it to happen too often. You should manage your routine to avoid it. as it will darken the skin,because in time it will cause tine blood blisters; which being small are not a noticeable problem, but do allow the blood to dry out which causes the staining . (My theory)

So recognize that it is lyphatic fluid which drains back into the system and will lead to a soft expansion of your dick. It is more likely to happen if you pump hard or even moderately hard after jelqing. Just as it will if you pump to often during the day. It does affect some people more than others. But I dont think that there is any indication (apart from it happening) that will show whether you are more or less affected.

Your change of stretches could be the problem, as you are putting much more strain on your dick, or rather the skin surrounding your dick

Update:

Yesterday was my day off, but I did PE this morning, same routine as before…stretches, 20 minutes pumping, 200 jelqs.

This time, I did a careful inspection as I came out of the tube. No donut. I had thought on the times before that the donut was not there when I first came out of the tube, now I know for sure.

I waited a full five minutes, looking it over the whole time. It never appeared.

As I started to jelq, after about 30 strokes, I noticed the same symptoms from before. After that set, I inspected again, and I did have some swelling, but not as much as previously. If I had not been looking for it, I probably would not have noticed it. I continued my normal routine, 4 sets of 50 wet jelqs, and it never got any worse.

Is it because of the day off? The 5 minute wait? I don’t know yet. I will keep an eye on it as I go through the next two days and keep you posted.

Two other things I forgot this morning:

1 - on the 2x3 minute stretches…man, it gave me an awsome flaccid hang right afterwards. I mean a real dangler.

2 - When I pump, I often get a lot of fog forming on the inside of the tube. I have always wondered exactly where the moisture comes from, but I guessed it was just being pulled out of my pores or skin. Today, when I came out of the tube, I noticed a few drops of clear liquid had come out of my penis. It was not pre-cum (I’ve seen plenty of that!) and I don;t think it was urine - no odor or anything. It seemed to be water. Any similar experiences?

Just out of curiosity, do you use any heat for warm-up? If so, do you continue heat through your pumping?

The swelling will happen if you pump and jelq too soon after a previous session, if you have had a swelling. So your best bet it to take things easier for a few days, and not irritate it too much

The Lymph fluid thing is different for each of us. Some will get it more by pumping than jelqing and vice versa,

So you really have to play it as it happens on your own experience.

The fog is simply sweat vaporising due to the humid atmosphere that bulds up, and from any lubricant you use. Of course it should be washed away after each session. There is quite a lot of heat generated from the blood flow so evaporation will take place. Nothing to worry about.

The liquid could be the semen carrier fluid, or any one of the above-mentioned fluids. It may possibly be the liquid which carries the pre-cum, Again you are putting quite a strain on your penis, so odd things are going to happen. It can be blister fluid/white part of blood.

Providing it remains very small quatities, don’t worry too much but as always keep an eye on things and make sure they don’t develop into something serious. Stop PE-ing for a few days and then ease the pressure a bit until things get normal.