Getting Temporary Gains

Pumping is the main form of PE that I do. The reason that I chose pumping was the expectation of large temporary gains as I worked toward permanent ones. I had the fantasy of pulling the cylinder off my pumped up 8x6 cock and giving my GF the fuck of her life before deflating to my regular 6x5. My GF knows about, and is excited by, me doing PE, so this could work. However, as big as I’d get in the tube, my erections would be perceptibly the same size afterwards.

So, I did some searching around the pumpers’ forum on the topic of pumping with cockrings. All the threads I found debated the merits of cockrings for permanent gains, but some made mention of using them for short term fattening-up. I failed to find any thread devoted to short term plumping-up. Then again, I have yet learn all the subtleties of the search button.

Here’s what I have done based on what I have pieced together. I engage in foreplay with the GF until my cock is rock solid. Then I put 2-3 “broccoli bands” around the base (the elastic bands that hold stalks of broccoli together in the supermarket - thank you Gprent for the idea). Then 10-12 minutes of pumping, while continuing foreplay so I stay hard in the tube. Then 18-20 minutes of squirming screaming girl before reaching the half hour time limit of cockring wear. I get about 0.25-0.5 expansion of both length and girth, but it shrinks a bit after a few minutes.

I want to get feedback about the safety of what I’m doing before continuing my experimentation. I want to try using a smaller elastic to see if I get greater expansion and longer expansion. How much is safe? Will I be getting close to clamping level forces if I use short enough bands? Does that mean that I need to shorten wearing time? How often can this be done safely? The GF has been loving these previews of where PE is heading, but I want to do it with minimal risk of injury.

Zap, I think you need to continue pumping consistently and the expansion will stay longer. Also, some level of fluid is OK and not very noticeable to your girl friend. I can pump and have sex 3 to 4 hours later and still have good size increase. I use a stayer not too much unlike what you have come up with.

I did the same and we had lots of fun Sex, girlfriend and my thick pumped cock. Got her real horny while I was in the tube, lots of foreplay, popped my dick out and we were good to go.

I also used a cock ring. The one LAPDIST is selling.

Although I cannot comment on the safety part, my dick is still working :)

Steady - I’ve been pumping regularly for 4 months. I have gotten some good gains, at 3 months I was 0.625” longer and 0.25” thicker, but I don’t have a noticeably bigger unit after pumping, erect anyways. My “in pump” expansion has really taken off, though. If I do 4 ten minute sessions with lots of heat I’ll be close to packing my 2.25” cylinder during the last set. (I know that tube is too big for my 5.125 starting girth and even for my current 5.375”, I bought it before joining Thunders’. I keep using it because I haven’t had any problems.) What I am trying to explore now is safely hanging on to more of that expansion for a little while, but it still doesn’t seem want to stick around without help.

Pillars - Your thread is what inspired this line of experimentation, thank you from both me and . I have been thinking about the LAPDIST cockring. Their website doesn’t list the dimensions, however, which left me with some questions. What is the inner diameter? Just how snug is the thing? It sounded like you found it too intense when you used it with the pump. Outer diameter, does this thing fit in a cylinder? The website mentions that it can be pulled down around the outside of a cylinder, but that sounds like a lot of hassle, especially since my minor turkey neck makes even the broccoli bands problematic. How exactly did you use it?

I first pumped regularly for about 15 to 20 min, with higher pressure than normal (Read 5+) but I believe this is not nessesary to see good temporary expansion. Then I got out of the tube, jelqed for a bit, put on the cock ring, got back into the tube and did the same thing for 15-20 min. I believe if i went for another set I wouldve gotten even more expansion but we didnt had the patience :)

The cockring is quite snug but also very elastic, I didnt pull it over the tube since theres this ridge with lapdist cylinders, I guess it could work but never tried it. The ring gets squeezed pretty tightly when in the tube but since its elastic it doesnt hurt, it just looks funny. My base girth is 5.125 and I got the 2 inch diameter cylinder. Im guessing if you have a 5.5+ base girth and the same size cylinder, it wouldnt fit, but thats just a guess.

You expand from 5.125” to 7.125” (2.25” tube)? But nothing stays? That is great expansion. I would work on a better stayer (or cock ring). What ever you do work up to it.

Whats a “stayer”?

Steady - I am now starting at 5.375” (actually that measurement is now a month old). To get my best expansion I need to do it in the bathtub, four 10-12 minute sessions, with jelqing in between. I only pack the bottom third of the tube, the top two thirds touch the tube wall on the top and bottom (the side of my cock facing me when I look down, and the opposite side) but the left and right sides are still 0.125” away each. Well over 6” but probably not quite 7”. After being in the tub that long I am dehydrated and can’t get a good woody, so I might have better temporary gains than I think.

Pillars - Thanks for the details. Do you think the LAPDIST cockring is so wide that it’s expansion is limited by the tube? That’s rather clever! The broccoli bands permanently stretch quite quickly, a bit after even one session. A real cockring is definitely required. My hesitation in ordering the one you use is Canada Customs, my experience buying American pumps is that they’re not too PE friendly. I’ll see what the local sex stores have soon.

I can relate to not having the patience to do to many sets just before sex. My girl outdoes most guys in her fixation on hard fast penetration, she often doesn’t have the patience to wait 15 minutes through one set.

Zap, I’m curious what pressure you’re pumping at?

First set, 4”Hg; second set, 5”Hg;third set and beyond, 5.5-6”Hg. The good girth expansion is due to using lots of heat, not high pressure. Hot as can be tolerated water in the tube, all wrapped up in an electric heating pad. Or in the bathtub with hot as hell bathwater.

Just to let everyone know, I’ll be posting more experimental results soon, just waiting on the completion of the feminine monthly cycle.

Do clamping also and I bet gains will become more permanent in a shorter amount of time.

So I did go to my local sex store and pick up some cockrings, a pack of four clear blue ones with a 0.5” diameter opening, about 1.5” outer diameter. Of that store’s selection they looked most like the ones from LAPDIST that Pillars had used, which is basically why I picked that package. Also, it cam with a “silver bullet” vibrator that fit into some of the cockrings for extra clitoral stimulation for my GF, major plus.

The vibrator turned out to be the best part. The cockrings were not as snug as the broccoli bands and they lost elasticity quickly, permanently stretching to a larger size. Using heat was also a problem, making the rings stretch to a larger size faster, a drag to a heat during PE fanatic like me. Lastly, getting the tube over the cockring was a pain in the ass. My next step is to buy a pack broccoli bands from Vessey’ seeds (again, thank you Gprent.) I bet that brand new they’ll be even snugger since they won’t have spent a few weeks stretched around a few stalks of broccoli.

The estimates of my in pump expansion given above are way off. I have started another thread about this, “Water Pumping Doubts”, so I won’t go into details here.

What’s with the spellcheck not knowing the word “cockring”?

Or u could just do regular PE consistantly and get perminant gains. Just a thought. ;]

Hi AJ - What makes you think I don’t do regular PE consistantly? I do and have been gaining steadily.