High Vacuum - low minutes

I switched my routine to a high pressure low minutes session after some months of pumping. I’m noticably getting a better flacid hang and gained .25 in the past month since i switched it up.

Anyone else do this? I think I’m going to stick to this routine but would like to hear from others who’ve done this.

How high a vacuum? The pumping veterans that have gained substantially and have been doing it a long time don’t really go over 7 or 8.

It is true that the higher the pressure you use, the lower the time you should use. A few specifics would be nice. What pressures are you using and how much time? For instance, if I use 4”hg I will stay in for 15 minutes, but up at 6”hg I cut it back to 10 minutes per set.

Well, I started going 10 @ 3 minutes. 7/8 @ 5 minutes.

10!? I’m no pumping expert but from what I read I woulda figured that is danger zone…surprised your penis didn’t burst inside the tube like a fly in a microwave…

Yah, I know that’s high but when I do it I feel no pain at all. I’m not sure if it’s the shock to my penis that’s gave me the recent gains or what.

You really don’t feel it when capillaries burst. So you have to go by the end result to determine if you are doing damage. The two most obvious damage factors are red spots or discoloration from burst capillaries or decrease in erection quality from internal trauma.

For me, the most important factor for growth has been time at size, so the longer you remain expanded, the better. That means I don’t use the short burst high pressure techniques any more. Too much risk for damage and little return. The best way to learn what is best for you is by using many techniques, so just keep experimenting to find your best method.

I’m also doing 10 for five minutes. Personally, my EQ has never been better. Right after a work out its weak, but its also been that way. Even before I started pumping. But my morning woods and during sex erections have been great. And I’ve been pumping at 10 for a month now.

I’ve got to respond to fxc1100 and add to what gprent said. Pain is not a reliable sign of damage. High vacuum is definitely not for newbies, and more experienced pumpers should proceed with extreme caution. If you read this and decide to do it anyway, consider yourself warned, and I hope that we don’t see you in the Injuries / Treatments forum.

I always between sets get an erection at 100%. Erection strength is so important IMO. When I can not any longer get a full erection my workout is over. I’ve done the high pressure short time thing, it’s O.K. If done right but I do like doing 3 to 4 15 min sets at 4 to 7hg. I can never keep that exact hg pressure so I’ll pump up to 7hg then let it go down to 4 hg then re-set to 7hg for 15 mins. After that I make sure my erection strength is at 100%. I do this until I cannot get a 100% erection. Be very careful with the high ‘hg pumping, it can mess your penis up trust me.

For what its worth, I think water pumping generates much more effective expansion force at lower vacuum levels. If you are pumping and not making gains, try water pumping at the same vacuum level and see if you start to see progress.

The problem with the higher vacuum levels with air is you really can burst some blood vessels. If you are going to experiment with higher levels, go up 0.5 in hg at a time, do it for 30 seconds then pull out and see if you are getting red spots. If you are getting red spots, don’t go any higher. The red spots are the small capillaries bursting. They are the first to go, if you go higher, the bigger vessels will go next. I think its foolish to go higher if you are getting red spots.

On the other hand, if you up the vacuum and you aren’t getting red spots, then its probably safer to go up another 0.5 in hg and again test for spotting. Before you go higher, make sure you start to use the time you intend to use, to make sure they aren’t failing after a few minutes.

Some guys blood vessels are very strong and others not. I get major spotting at 5 in hg, but 4 is fine. 4.5 in hg is fine too, but if I jelque the tube even a little, I start getting spots. So there is a definite threshold for each of us where the blood vessel walls start to fail.

Remember, a major injury will set you back until it heals, so don’t be in such a rush that you end up taking far more time to recover from injuries.

From my experience I get greater length expansion in the tube with higher HG’s (6-8) and greater width expansion with lower HG’s (3-5). Most of the time I stick with lower b/c the veterans recommend it and I’m sure it is safer. However, seeing as how I really need length more than girth I do get tempted to use higher HG’s. When I do go higher I cut the sets down to no more than 8 minutes. Lower HG’s I go up to 15 minutes.

Any thoughts on my theory?

I find the same thing. You have to be very careful with those higher vacuum levels.

I use a Kaplan pump, and I really like it. I started pumping about 2 years after first starting PE, and only did it a few months before getting away from PE altogether for a few years. I never really knew about the low pressure suggestions back then. I would pump at 10hg for about 10 minutes at a time (2 sessions), at least once I got used to it. I know my cock was already kind of broken in from previous PE history, but I don’t really think I saw any permanent gains from my short time pumping back then. What I did get was nice flacid pump/hang for most of the day, and maybe a little bit larger erect size for about the whole day following pumping. Also, I would get the “donut effect” usually lasting for a couple hours after the pump session.

Now that I am back into PE again after a long time off, I have incorporated pumping into my routine again. Pumping is only 1/3 of my routine, and I usually only spend 10 minutes in the pump. Now knowing what a lot of the pumping veterans say, I pump up to 5 and hold it there for the session. No more donut effect ever now after a session. I jelq 15 minutes, pump 10 minutes, then clamp (not too heavy) for 5 minutes.

It is obvious to me now that the lower pressure is better, as it keeps me pumped up, but without the donut effect afterward. I’m just wondering about the accuracy of the guages on the popular pumps. I wonder how much variation there is. 10hg is not horribly uncomfortable, 4hg would barely keep me pumped, but 5 seems to be just enough to keep me up in the pump, and does not give me a donut effect afterward. So what do you guys think about the accuracy of the guages? I’m curious to hear from those with more experience. I kind of think my pump is telling me I am at a higher pressure than I am really at. Maybe by something like 2 or 3 hg.

You are probably right. Harbor Freight sells a great pump that is fairly cheap and when on sale is really cheap.

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The gauge is very accurate, and the pump is made of brass and very strong.