Should I expect gains when I'm pumping flaccid?

Hello my friends!

I have a doubt here, and I’d like you all to join the discussion I’m going to start here. Some of you, vet pumpers, may give me some very good advices on this.

My problem is… I’m really tired of trying to stay totally erect while in the tube. It’s not a physical problem, as I’ve said before, it’s just that I really don’t like porn at all, and it’s so boring to try to be on fire when you don’t feel like. I’d just like to put my unit on the cylinder and sit back and watch tv for 10 minutes.
Also, I can get a strong erection, enter the tube, but I’m having big problems on keeping the erection there. When I get off it, I’m completely flaccid, and I even have to massage my penis a bit in order to perform some jelqs.

I know this has probably been asked a million times before, but I’d like to ask you again:
- Should I exepect gains pumping this way?
- Should I get an erection while in the tube, and if so, why?
- Gains come faster if I stay erect while in the tube?
- Can someone explain me the theory behind this?

Thanks in advance, and a big hug, as usual!

G

Vacuum pumping can help with gains by allowing your own blood pressure more room to expand your corpora cavernosa (CC). By reducing the atmospheric pressure surrounding your penis, your own blood pressure can push harder against the tunica and help it expand. This cannot happen if you’re flaccid. You should enter erect and stay that way by whatever means you can. Do porn in your head if you don’t want to watch. Have your girlfriend stand naked in front of you. By being flaccid or losing the erection the only thing happening is that fluid will accumulate in the tissues. It may produce a plump flaccid, but it’s “temorary water gain” and goes away in a few hours. To expect anything from pumping you have to have and maintain an erection.

Thanks westla, you were a big help!

Well… I just need to figure out some way to keep the erection, otherwise I’ll have to give up on pumping. :( and that’s basically what I’m thinking right now.

I find it helps to pull out and push in with the tube therefore stimulating the penis.

What JEW is describing is what we call milking the tube. You just grab the cylinder and move it in and out in a masturbation type movement. This will cause a slight pressure fluctuation that you will notice on the gauge and that can help with maintaining an erection while you pump. There was another technique that was recently posted about gently striking the cylinder with your fist while pumping and this causes a vibration that can also help you to maintain an erection.

I may only speak about my experience and I pump only since last April.

I enter the tube erect then I constantly kegel during my 15-20 minutes session at 4-6” hg. Then I forget about my erection and usually I surf the net.

My penis stays very big but when I come out the tube I am big but not erect.

I usually do 2 set. Between sets I do some light jelq and 10 minutes of hard squeezes.

Since April I have gained another 0.4” in girth using this routine 3 -4 times a week.

I have gained a little from pumping flaccid. I probably would have gained a lot more if i was erect, but it’s hard for me to maintain an erection for that long period of time.

EXACTLY! That’s what I used to do! I really haven’t found any significant difference on the size of my penis inside the cylinder, wheter it’s erect or not! It’s a difference of maybe a couple of milimeters, and my penis is still pretty much extended (when it’s not erect, it looks like it is, do you know what I mean?).

It’s pretty hard for me to understand that I can only obtain some gains while totally super duper erect, but if the vets say so, I totally accept it!

To clarify just a bit. You don’t have to be super duper erect, but you shouldn’t be a wet noodle either. The ideal situation is to enter the tube erect and then even if you lose a rock hard erection, the vacuum should maintain your size larger than your normal erect size, especially in the girth department the entire time you are pumping. When I finish my session, I always put on an elastic cock ring and maintain this larger than normal state for at least 10 minutes of erect massage. That is the best part. :)

Hmmmm…. g, when I’m in the tube, I’m always larger than my normal erect size, and the difference between having a rock hard erection, or not, is mainly lenghtwise, and only of a couple of milimeters.

One more thing! When you finish your session, you put on a cock ring, but not as tight as a clamp, right? You consider that as clamping? I should try that…

The word clamp does not have to imply overly tight. Clamps are adjustable and should not be worn so tight as to restrict blood flow to the point of cutting off oxygen supply. So put on the clamp with enough pressure to maintain a larger than normal size, but not turn your penis purple. Yes, you should definitely try that.

I will definitely try that! ;)

After my session if I have time I do 20 minutes of edging.
And, using your words, that is the best part.

I don’t know that you’d consider me a vet, but I’ve been pumping for over 30 years and I have to say I disagree with the idea that you need to be erect in order to achieve gains. In more recent years I’ve involved myself with other aspects of PE as I’ve discovered them, especially with the advent of the Internet. I have added stretching to my regime and also done jelquing and looked at clamping and at the moment am between stretching (with an extender and manually) and pumping. The latest trend in stretching appears to be long sessions at low tension and yesterday I applied this concept to pumping. I started at 6am with an hour of stretching and then spent virtually the next 11 hours, with wee breaks etc., pumping in a 2” tube. The end result was a 7” flaccid hang that would probably have lasted longer had I used a ring or clamp after; my normal flaccid hang being between 4.5” – 5”. Encouraged by this result I’m hoping to repeat the process as often as I can, i.e., daily when possible, with the view of encouraging new cell growth and consolidating gains. My theory is, take care of the flaccid length and the erect length will take care of itself.

Getting back to my original statement, I’ve never really paid much attention to being erect in the tube, though sometimes I’ve been erect going into the tube, or become erect while in it, but not always intentionally and I’m now 2” longer than when I started. Besides, as you will appreciate, it would be nigh impossible to maintain an erection for 11 hours.

Seahorse, let me get this straight, you pump for 11 hrs with only pee breaks in between? Do you relieve the pressure for a minute or two along the way or are you just pumping consistently? What pressure (vacuum) are you pumping at and how long is it in between breaks (time where you relieve the pressure)?

Fitman