Saw this thread and had a similar experience to this. Long time lurker, first time poster.Anyways.. I started pumping (bathmate hercules) about a month ago. I was actually making some very nice gains. In 3 weeks I went from 150 mark to the 160 mark, Great EQ, and noticed approximately a .2” gain in MSEG (not aware if these were permanent or not but still cool!) but after those 3 weeks I was experiencing a dull pain after pumping somewhere in my left testi. I also noticed when pumping my left testi (normally hangs lower than my right one) seems to get pulled up when using the bathmate. Not actually getting sucked up into the bathmate like I read from warning and other users, But it just seemed to start getting pulled up. So after the 3 weeks I noticed my spermatic cord very inflamed with a dull, “toothache” like pain throughout the day (after pumping) right above my LEFT testi. So I did some research reading about all the horrifying testicular injuries such as testicular torsion and epididymitus (sp?) but I came to the conclusion that it was a varicocele.
For those who don’t know “Varicocele /ˈværɨkɵsiːl/ is an abnormal enlargement of the pampiniform venous plexus in the scrotum. This plexus of veins drains the testicles. The testicular blood vessels originate in the abdomen and course down through the inguinal canal as part of the spermatic cord on their way to the testis. Upward flow of blood in the veins is ensured by small one-way valves that prevent backflow. Defective valves, or compression of the vein by a nearby structure, can cause dilatation of the testicular veins near the testis, leading to the formation of a varicocele.”
So now I am a little worried about using the BM because I never noticed this varicocele before using the BM. And have came to two scenarios with the BM:
1. While pumping, I positioned the bathmate too LOW on my sack (because I have a pretty bad turkey neck going on) and sucked a pre-existing varicocele into the BM. Because it was sucked in a lot of blood pooled in the varicocele cause it to get inflamed, swell up and be painful.
2. While pumping, I positioned the bathmate too LOW on my sack and while pumping to max pressure I compressed the spermatic cord too much, causing damage to it and causing a varicocele to form.I then took a week off all PE exercises and for the most part the pain went away, swelling went away. It is still there, I can feel it (“bag of worms” type feeling) but it has gone down significantly. After my week off I started a light pumping routine with low-mid pressure. Making sure to position the BM high enough on the pelvic that my varicocele does NOT get sucked up into the bathmate (although because of my turkey neck my unit is up against the bottom of the BM). So far I pumped for 2 days without any pressure, inflamation or pain.
Varicoceles are quite common approximately 15% of young adults from ages 15-25 develop one (and I am 22). But I am still quite worried about the Bathmate because of the amount of pressure it puts on the base of the pelvis and top of the scrotom especially pumping to max pressure. I feel like if I got the x30/x40 this wouldn’t happen cause they have a hand pump.
The reason I wanted to post was because OP seemed to have very similar symptoms as mine and wanted to get an update on if OP was still using the BM and if he was still experiencing any of his symptoms and just to share my story/ideas. This was disappointing cause them gains felt amazing and I want to get back to it. But I read if a varicocele gets too big/painful surgery could be required. Havent visited a dr. Yet but I am going to schedule an appointment to get checked out. Any ideas/recommendations would be awesome!
Edit: BTW forgot to add that sex/masturabtion is fine. No pain during/afterwards. Plumming seems to be fine. Ejaculate still same color/sensation.
Great post explaning the riks of using bathmate.
Start 01/01/09 6.8"BPEL(17,2cm) 4.3"MEG (11cm) Off 01/01/10 at 7.0"BPEL(17.7cm) 4.5"MEG (11.4cm). Back in PE after 4 years off - Back to NB routine the 03/01/2014 at 7.0"BPEL(17.7cm) 4.6"MEG (11.7cm)
Now :7.5"BPEL X 4.6 EG :/ Short Term Goal 7.3"X5" (lenght reached !) Long Term Goal 7.5"X5.5" : hard! (length achieve, desperate about poor girth). New goals : ST: 7.7X4.75 LT: 8X5.1