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Testing a theory - Hanging then Pumping

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You are right again Cap,

However my addiction has brought me to at least an hour a day, 5 days a week. Sometimes twice a day. I know that very few have been as committed to hanging as you have been and your results show for that reason. I have great respect for you and your opinion on hanging.

So are you saying that I couldnt expect to see gains on a couple of sessions of hanging just prior to a few sessions of pumping on a regular basis?

By the way, I do love the “wife-killer” erections, used one this morning. She must have mentioned a half dozen times how fucking hard my cock is.

Thanks
789


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

Originally Posted by Avocet8
I don’t know where that theory came from or what the logic of it is. Maybe somebody here can explain why that’s supposed to be.

Wasn’t this DLD’s thinking?

As for the pumping/length debate, I feel a good length pull in the tube. I’m also over 1/4” longer in the tube at max. length nowadays than when I first started pumping. I take this as a good sign of things to come, and so I’m doing 10 minutes of pumping daily.

I do think that when I get a little more settled into the routine and conditioned I’ll add some hanging, probably low angle, to encourage more length gains.



To the pumping veterans particularly: As you progressed through your pumping career, did you find that the length pull decreased? Right now I’m not feeling such a big length pull at 5 in/Hg as I used to, but still feel it well at about 6 in/Hg. However, I was thinking, that perhaps when this just over 1/4” increase is cemented, perhaps the pull will be felt at lower pressures again? A kind of cycle of length gains?

Originally Posted by ICM
Wasn’t this DLD’s thinking?

Could be. I can’t remember who started it.



To the pumping veterans particularly: As you progressed through your pumping career, did you find that the length pull decreased? Right now I’m not feeling such a big length pull at 5 in/Hg as I used to, but still feel it well at about 6 in/Hg. However, I was thinking, that perhaps when this just over 1/4” increase is cemented, perhaps the pull will be felt at lower pressures again? A kind of cycle of length gains?

As you get conditioned, you may find that you have to notch up a point or two on your pressure.
I did 3 - 5 HG for a long, long time. Now I get my max comfortable pull at 8 HG.
But you newbies beware. Don’t do what the vets do, until you are ready for that.


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avocet8

Thanks, T.

Do you subscribe to his theory, or no?


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avocet8

789,

Was reading
JAPP’s inspiring story
again, posted the link for a newbie, and in it he writes:

By 2000, I was hanging, jelqing and pumping. This took… no BS… 4-5 hours per day! When I was done pumping, my cock was 9 inches soft! —I am not kidding —the thing looked like a pink and purple firehose. On an off day my erect measurement was 8.75”L and almost 6.5” G.

If I was going on a date that night, I would do a 4-5 hour PE session, then take the girl out to dinner or whatever. When I unveiled my cock, the chic would gasp! —Believe me when I tell you, every girl that saw it got totally turned on. They all wanted to suck and fuck it. It was like a challenge to them —they all accepted the challege once my pants hit the floor. No matter what anyone tells you….. Size DOES matter!

So, JAPP was doing the hanging/jelqing/pumping workout years ago. Granted he put a fucking load of time in, but man, the results…


Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis.

Dark,

Wow, thanks for digging that up. There is no way that I can spend that much time but if I could get my percentage of gain v. the time spent I would be orgasmic.

A 9 inch softy, holy shit! I dont even dream that big. My goal is a new flaccid of 6 X 5 which is bigger than my pre-PE erect numbers. I still need 1(+/-) X 1/2 to meet my goal.

This process my do just that.

Thanks again.

789


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

Originally Posted by 789
So are you saying that I couldnt expect to see gains on a couple of sessions of hanging just prior to a few sessions of pumping on a regular basis?

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It is entirely possible that you could see gains hanging just a couple of sessions a day. Didn’t you post that you experienced an increase in your LOT?
What harm can come from trying to pull down some lig gains while keeping your pumping schedule? As long as you don’t become overzealous and thrombose yourself into early retirement.
Remember the ol’ rule: There is no easier way to keep your current size than to injure yourself.

789,

Ya, I read that and YGuy’s posts periodically. No way I can put in that kind of time either, but it’s cool to know it can be done.

JAPP, wherever you are - in my book, you’re the man,

Remember the ol' rule: There is no easier way to keep your current size than to injure yourself.

That is catchy, I like that one Cap :)


Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis.

Originally Posted by CaptnHook
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It is entirely possible that you could see gains hanging just a couple of sessions a day. Didn’t you post that you experienced an increase in your LOT?
What harm can come from trying to pull down some lig gains while keeping your pumping schedule? As long as you don’t become overzealous and thrombose yourself into early retirement.
Remember the ol’ rule: There is no easier way to keep your current size than to injure yourself.

Cap,
Do you think length gains are possible without lig fatigue? The reason I ask is because if I hang two sets of 20 minutes and dont achieve fatigue will it do any good? Or , even if I dont hit fatigue by hanging, I will put enough stress on the ligs once I start pumping?

Furthermore, I did say I have experienced an increase in my lot from 8:30-9:00 to 10:00 +. (I believe from pumping) And that’s what kind of pushed me in the direction of hanging again and pull down some lig gains. But I am also addicted to my larger flaccid and dont want to give up pumping. But I also dont want to be stupid and do something totally non-productive to my end goals. Or more importantly, INJURE myself. I have had a couple of very minor injuries, blood droplet from overzealous jelqing, minor red dots from too high of pumping, and a stain on the underside of my dick from PowerJelqing too hard. All went away within a day and all occurred when I either just started (and knew everything) or didnt read through the threads to see how others avoided such injuries. It could also be that I was just stupid and impatient.

I start on Monday so I will be calling your cell phone about 7:00 a.m. to give you the blow by blows.

789


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

Originally Posted by 789
Cap,
Do you think length gains are possible without lig fatigue?

Not in my experience. But others say it is. These are the guys that report never actually “feeling” fatigue, yet they register gains. I suspect that has more to do with a high “pain threshold” than the actual absence of fatigue.
(btw- not to confuse: Length gains are possible without “lig fatigue” - meaning tunica gains, of course)

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The reason I ask is because if I hang two sets of 20 minutes and dont achieve fatigue will it do any good?

I don’t remember if you ever gained via hanging. I think you did very little and your length gains came from manual stretching/jelqing?
Again, I am not the one to say what is or isn’t possible.

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Or , even if I dont hit fatigue by hanging, I will put enough stress on the ligs once I start pumping?

Hopefully an experienced pumper will answer this. I don’t know enough about how pumping affects the ligs to say one way or the other.

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It could also be that I was just stupid and impatient.

More likely the former.
:)

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I start on Monday so I will be calling your cell phone about 7:00 a.m. to give you the blow by blows.

I imagine this is a reference to you, Mrs. 789, and her MILF friend?

Originally Posted by DarkTrick
Remember the ol' rule: There is no easier way to keep your current size than to injure yourself.

That is catchy, I like that one Cap

Thanks Dark. I like to make up catchy phrases and then pretend they are ancient maxims. This way, if people hate them I won’t catch the blame.

789, greetings:

As I recall, the Chartham method recommends hanging and pumping, with some manual exercise worked in. The idea is to hang first (say, 40 - 50 mins); then, later in the day, pump (they recommend an hour). My memory might not be entirely accurate, but that’s the broad idea, and you might find it useful to look into it if you want to combine pumping and hanging.

Very interesting and thought provoking thread. My routine has a mix of pumping, hanging and jelqing. I like to pump in the morning with the assistance of morning wood. After that, I wrap with Thera-p wrist wraps for an ADS. In the afternoon I hang for two 20 minutes sets and then Thera-p wraps again. Finally, jelqing either manually or with the power jelq in the evenings.

Although I am still a beginner, I no longer get fatigued from pumping. Because of that and my main goal is length, I consider my primary exercise hanging. I feel all of the exercises are beneficial, but favor hanging, at least until I reach my length goals.

I plan on maintaining this routine for the remainder of the year, or until I no longer see any gains. I will keep you all posted.

Well today was my first day hanging then pumping. I did two sets of 20 minutes of hanging with 5 lbs. I was feeling somewhat fatigued in the middle of the second set. I started with 5 lbs because I haven’t hung in a while and I wanted to see what it would feel like again. Then I did three sets of 10 minutes of pumping at 5-6 hg. I only did three sets of pumping because one of my staff came in early today and they happened to call me when they were picking up coffee. The only real difference that I noticed so far was that when I got erect and went into the tube, my dick was slightly longer. Usually I dont see any length differences in the tube until the third set of pumping. Or maybe its just an anomolie, who knows. Oh yeah, I did you a heating pad during both the hanging and the pumping routines.

I will keep you updated.

789


You all are still missing the point... The story was great and all but should have ass (and) some anal in it.- RWG

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