truth about pumps and jelq?

Here’s what I found (various sources) :

A. A penis enlargement pump was originally designed to help men whose erections were not hard enough. It was supposed to help them have sexual intercourse. This once was a satisfactory solution for some men if the pump was used correctly.
——)However, these pumps have been known to cause lots of problems including, loss of sensation to the penis, loss of skin from the penis, and even gangrene, so I can’t possibly recommend one because of this.

B. Penis pumps (or vacuum pumps) are toys which provide sensations that many people find pleasurable.
——) Though some believe pumps will permanently increase penis size, that claim is untrue. Our pumps are intended as masturbation enhancers only, not as tools for penis enlargement or the treatment of erection difficulties.

C. Another method is known as jelqing or jelquing. Depending on the source, this technique is variously said to have its roots in tribal Africa. In jelqing, the penis is milked from root to glans while in a semi-erect state, thus encouraging more vascularity in the corpus cavernosa and associated tissues. Internet claims range in gains from .25 inches to 3 inches or more in length and 1 to 5 inches in girth. The upper end of the girth claims are highly suspect and the length claims represent many years of multiple enlargement techniques.

——) However, there have been warnings that one possible cause of the growth is the presence of scar tissue caused by the exercise, which may harm penile function.

You’ve been around since july of 2003 and this is all you know?

Uh…

Don’t think this is a measure of what he knows, pud.

But then what do I know?

Maybe we should all stop pretending that we’ve made gains with some of these methods and just go home.

jackdaniel,

Those quoted sources have appeared and been requoted everywhere on and off for years. If you want feedback, this entire website is your feedback. If you’re not convinced by now, then I doubt there’s anything more one can add to convince you.

I was just trying to put focus on possible injuries I read on other websites and that I haven’t read here. I truly am a believer, that is not the question. I just never heard of that “scar” thing and I found it interesting, that’s why I’m looking for any good feedbacks by our biologists here!

PEACE
JD

Well, pud, it seems you were closer to this than I gave you credit for, or than I was.

My bad.

I tip my hat to you sir, and if we are ever in close proximity I will buy you an imported beer.

If you leave your dick in the cylinder for long time you can damage yourself, no question. Or if you pump at HG levels that are very high. Here we recommend newbies to pumping keep the pressure between 4 and 5 HG. There are some here that seem to report being comfortable at higher levels.

I’ll give my own personal experience. When I first got my pump I would go right to 5 HG and let it hang out, following avocet’s guidlines for time in the tube, warm-up, massage, etc.. After a couple of weeks, I noticed that the sensation wasn’t as ‘tight’. I pumped a little higher, to 6 HG. Well, after a week or two of this I got a little too enthusiastic and tried 8 HG. I was rewarded with donuts. After some PM’s with a few more experienced pumpers and reading and re-reading some of the pumping threads, I now pump to 4 HG for three sets of 15 minutes. This is well within the generally agreed upon safety zone. I don’t worry that it doesn’t ‘feel’ like it’s doing something. I trust that it is. I’ve made some girth gains, as a result.

If you are in the cylinder and your penis starts to get very dark in color or worse whitish around the edges of the darkened skin - you are in trouble. I supposed if you ignored this and hung out in the tube for a long time you could give yourself gangrene or something like it… I’m not really a medical guy.

There are many here who would beg to differ with this assertion. PEforeal for one.

There are many different theories about why the penis gets larger from jelqing and other means. Many feel that it has to do with stretching the tissues to the point where they have to heal. Whether this new tissue is scar tissue or just the body healing itself I don’t know.

Again if you do things in a severe manner you can impede your penile function - with any of the techniques found here. But there are many here who have not only gained size, but regained function. So as a broad statement I think it is fairly safe to say that it is false.

It’s all about staying within the bounds of your bodies ability to adapt to the stresses that you put on it via PE. The trick is to listen to your body and put just enough stress to get results (oftentimes gradual results) and yet not cross the line where you do yourself damage.

I’ll give you some feedback: when you use spell check it’s an excellent time to proof your post before posting… (:

Sorry about mistakes, I’m not english as I already said.

JD

Try using a heat pad wrapped around the tub the whole time, and stay under 5hg. Then do constant kegels while in the tub. I do sets of 100. Then in between do a jelq set. This has been working well for me lately. Be careful not to burn yourself with the heat pad, if it starts to feel to hot pull out right away, and also before you put you’re dick back in test the heat with you’re fingers. I got my heat pad at Target for 15 dollars.

I too use a heat pad. I got it at Rite Aid for $15 dollars. :)

I do fifty to one hundred jelqs in between pumping sets, but I’ve been a bit lazy with the kegels of late, truth be told. I used to do them on the train on my way to work. It’s a twenty five minute ride, so I’d do a whole variety of them. But…I’ve been slacking lately.

I don’t use the pump in the tub. I don’t use water for one thing and the other is that it’s too time consuming. When I have more leisure time I’ll look into it.

Ah, didn’t realize I’m dealing with English as a Second Language. It also, to some degree, clarifies the questioning behind this thread.

Pud can tell you I’m a bit of crank when it comes to spelling and grammar. But for people in the ESL category, well that’s a different story. I wouldn’t do half as well in your language, whatever it might be.

I hope my response to you was clear enough for you to translate. If you have questions let me know. I’ll try to clarify.

Another typo, I meant to say tube not tub. :)

:funpost: LOL

And I didn’t catch it.

Yeah, I use the heat around the cylinder the whole time too. :thumbs:

I always use warm water instead of a heat pad. It keeps an even vac pull around the entire penis at all times.
Sometimes I use cool water for the last set. Always kegel in tube and jelg between sets. Although be careful because jelging between pumping sets can greatly facilitate the donut effect and cause other injuries also. Listen to your wanker carefully.

Lately I’ve been forced to take some time off from PEing. Been busy as hell with work, the wifes been off work on vacation time
(I stealth my PE), and right now I’m sick with the kids first back to school virus of the season. The last 2 days my entire body aches, my head feels like shit, and I’m not quite sure there is a dick between my legs. I feel like hell - O’ well another year of the kids in public school.

I’m actually beginning to think I needed the time off. I’m an obsessive Mofo and I had ample time over the last year to throughly abuse my dick. I’ve had some great gains and I’ve hit the platues they speak of along the way. The last 2 weeks of little to no PE’ing and this morning I woke up, gave it a few quick dry jelgs on the way to the hit the morning piss, and when I looked down I though to myself, holy shit it’s grown again.

I have to admit that I had begun pumping the last month or so at around a max of 10hg of vac for 2 or 3 sets of 10 to 15 mins with maybe 5 to 10 mins of jelging in between sets. At first it was doing wonders, but I think I was starting to get into the after effect shrinkage that someone else had mentioned in another pumping thread recently. I had started getting discouraged, especially when less than hour after pumping the pump effect was already gone. Then the very day I read that other thread, the wife and I had sex and I could barely keep it up - I had done my usual pumping that day at 10 hg. I think when I blew I was lucky if I was even 80% hard. Fuck I went completely soft while I was in her - Twice! I felt like shit about that because thats definitely not my norm at all.
In fact I can’t recall that ever happening. She was a good sport about it and I was able to get away with saying I was tired and burned out from working. I’m not sure she bought it though, probably thinks I was jerking off too much.

Then I took a week off until she went out one evening and took the kids also. So I decided to see if I could get some pumping in. This time I stayed at 5hg or less and the results were much more like they used to be. In fact I stayed pumped up for more than a day.
But when we had sex again the next day, My pecker still wasn’t up to it’s old self. It wasn’t nearly as bad this time around but it still wasn’t back to normal as far as erection quality goes. The funny thing was though that I had had a rock hard spontaneous boner earlier that same day so I had figured things were back to full normal.

I don’t think I’ve actually done any permanent damage to myself, but it was definitely a lesson learned. Keep the fucking vaccum low dudes. I’ve resolved to give it all a break for awhile with the exception of some occasional dry jelging for the time being. October/ early November will be one full year of PEing for me. Did I hit my goal yet? “the goal”? Well no not yet. But I HAVE put a full inch and a half in length on my dick and that was 1 & 1/2 inches more than I ever dreamed was possible. I think I can slow it down a bit now, makes no sense to get a flat tire now.

Of course, next week I’ll be posting about how I couldn’t keep my hands off it anymore ….

Sometimes I actually catch myself thinking WTF was it that I used to do before I started pulling on my dick all the time?

I use my pump religiously and have gained 2” length and almost 3” girth and it’s permanent Also jelqing and it all works for me

Anything is subject to misuse. If you take too much aspirin, you might get an ulcer. Use too much weight and/or bad form when doing shoulder presses = a tear and likely surgery. Your argument applies to pretty much everything.. Operator error.