Trying something different.

I am getting back into pumping, and I am trying a different approach this time. Rather than pumping and staying pumped for 10 to 20 minutes, I am just pumping up for a minute, then deflating and as soon as the pressure is back down to zero, I pump back to about 5 Hg for another minute. So far I have been doing this for a half hour at a time. I am thinking the blood is being circulated every time I do this, so I could do it for as long as I had time to do it.

My goal with pumping is to have better EQ, and increased flaccid hang. I have made some gains extending that I am happy with, and I will still do a little extending, or maybe just some ADS to keep the gains that I made.

I am find that when I keep cycling every minute I will start to fill the tube better than if I just pumped and held it for 10 or 20 minutes. There seems to be something about every time I deflate and then pump I fill a little more, at least for the first few cycles.

I have a converted electric Whisper pump that I am going to start using soon, so I can do other stuff while I am cycling. I haven’t figured just how I will set it up yet (pressure switches, timers, etc).

Surely someone else has tried this. I figure it is a lot like manually stretching and holding the stretch for a minute. Maybe it would make more sense to do 3 minute cycles. I just want to be sure I am getting enough fresh blood.

Anyone have any comments?

How long have you been doing the one minute routine? Are your erections without the pump getting stronger and more frequent? Keep us posted. Thanks

When I first started pumping I was doing 5 minute sets then would decrease the pressure to 1-2” hg for 30 seconds. The more intense the pressure is the shorter the set will be for me. I’m now doing 15 minute sets with 3” hg but if I were to increase the pressure I’d probably perform shorter sets. I’m really liking low pressure and heat with increased time.

I just started a few days ago, so it is to early to tell. I’ll let you know how it is going.

I’ve been using a heat lamp. I used to be more concerned about being erect when I went into the tube, but it seems like I can work up to an erect size after a few cycles of 1 minute. Back a few months ago when I was pumping I wasn’t using the heat lamp, so the heat may have something to do with why I am pumping up more.

If I am able to get my pump to automatically cycle, I could be watching TV, reading a book, or all sort of things while it was cycling.

The most my Whisper pump will go to is ~-5Hg, so I don’t have to worry about too much vacuum. All I would need is something to periodically let the vacuum out of the tube ( say every minute, plus how ever long it takes to build the vacuum back again). Then I can be doing stuff while it is cycling (my taxes if I had it put together already).

This Works (Dynamic Stretching)

Have a look at this thread.

Yes Repeter what you are doing is a variant of HomerJS’s dynamic stretching. I now do this using a Mr Fantastic water pump. I find this dynamic pumping is great for EQ and has given me 1/2" in girth gains. It also allows you to momentarily pump to greater vacuums. I am currently pumping cyclicly in the range 4" to 14" Hg.

Thanks. This is a gold mine of information.

I instinctivly did this when I started with my new pump that I got from a member.
Feels just right.
Pumping for some seconds high to 10 hg then drop to 5 back to 7.5 and then back to 5 for 5 minutes.

I enter completely flaccid and can pump to BPEL size. Feels good. You certainly stretch the tissue this way at many different states. Not much fluid build up either.

Results are better hang and good erections for now. have to start a progress log.

Too much manual work. With the QS-7 computerized pump it can cycle vacuum in under 1/3 a second and produce a rythmic effect that causes erection, precum even orgasm. Its handsfree. All that manual cycling of vacuum on a handpump will eventually break the handpump. But yes, i too think cyclical pumping is the way and light but computerized and automated. I believe since the.pulsing of the qs-7 produces and maintain an erect state it will train a larger erect size.

Hi Fred. I knew you were doing something similar, and I am glad you jumped in.

The Mr Fantastics aren’t cheap, so I have been sitting back to see how they are working for the more adventuristic. In the meantime I am trying to do something similar for a fraction of the cost. If I do get a Mr. Fantastic, I think I would get the air model because it seems easier to use, and a bit less expensive.

One thing I discovered is putting a wide (~ 3/4”) cock ring on at my base gives me an additional 1/2 length in the tube. I don’t know if this will work out to long term length gains, but it is nice to get some length with the girth. Last time I was pumping I put on girth, but I lost some length.

Have you experienced and increase in flaccid hang as a result of your Mr Fantastic? It will soon be our turn for summer, and I spend time doing nude recreation, and I would like to have a nice social flaccid. I know it is vainity on my part, but I think there is a good deal of vanity involved with PE. The women have their boobs, and we have our penises. I guess it’s only fair.

Thanks for adding to the thread. You point out an advantage that is important to me. I am in my 60’s, and it can really be a job staying, or even getting erect to pump. I have pretty much lost interest in porn, and I like to save my erections for my girl friend. It seems like pumping in cycles eliminates the need for an erection. If I do have an erection I’ll be about a 1/2 longer, but I double my flaccid size after just few cycles, and that is good enough for me. That doesn’t seem to happen if I just go in flaccid. If I go in flaccid and stay a constant pressure nothing much happens, and it is pretty pathetic. I like to see something going on in the tube.

Question: Have you experienced much flaccid gain with your routine?

Once I started using the water pump for 60 min sessions I did get a longer flaccid hang but flaccid girth increase was probably more noticeable. Never done any nude recreation though. My wife is very conservative in such matters and would never get involved in it and I would mot do it without her.

The Mr Fantastic pump does something similar but is not computerized. With it you adjust the pump speed and vacuum leak rate so you have effective control of the pump up and pump down part of the cycle.

Having used a hand pump initially to try put HomerJS’s dynamic stretching I have to agree with you that a controlled electric pump is much easier and effectively hands free.

What sort of things can you [program into the QS-7 other than cycle times?

Repeter - what you are describing has been discussed over the years however there seems to be no standard name but here are a few:

Pumping for ED;
Short cycle pumping;
Pulse pumping;
Dynamic pumping;
Dynamic stretching;
Pump and release;
Peyronie pumping protocol;
…etc…

The general consensus seems to be improved EQ, few complications (edema), and questionable increases in length and girth. One of the major complaints about this method of PE is that it involves a lot of activity (pumping, releasing, repeat… all while paying close attention to the gauge) so I think most guys quit after awhile. As already mentioned, there are pumps that make short cycle pumping more convenient and less work - Mr. Fantastic (an Italian, see his thread in the Products sub-forum), PumpToys QS-7, VacuDrive.de, and probably more…

If you are a “Do It Yourself” (DIY) type of person you can certainly build an automated pump system with parts readily available on the internet. The 3 major components you need are:

A source of 12 volt DC;

A source of vacuum (like your converted aquarium pump or a vacuum pump);

A controller (a timer, a digital pressure switch, or both).

Like you, I started with the converted aquarium pump then added a timer controlled dump valve to vent the vacuum thus producing a cycle based on time. I eventually abandoned the aquarium pump. The controller is much easier and safer and cheaper to make using low voltage (12 volts DC) instead of line voltage (120 volts AC). If I already have 12VDC then it is easy to add a 12VDC vacuum pump for less than $20. The added advantage of the 12vdc pump is that I can cycle the pump on and off as well as control the rate of the pump.

The next modification was to use a digital pressure switch to control vacuum (the pump and/or vent valve) in a similar way as the commercial automated pumps. The downside here is that digital pressure switches are expensive, delicate and a bit complex. Eventually I will add back the timer circuit so that cycles can be based on time and/or vacuum.

You can save money if you DIY your pump and it can be fun if you enjoy this type of work. However, there is certainly a lot more involved than the typical PE pumping setup of cylinder and brake bleeder pump. All the parts are readily available on eBay. Let me know if you want more specifics.

Good Luck!