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Vacuum Pumping 101

Originally Posted by Anonymous78964
Newbie here, and have reading through this thread I am very very tempted to purchase a pump. The gains people are mentioning sound amazing!

Is there any other newbies who could recommend a good starting pump? I hear good things about the water pumps but would be a little impractical for me, also, anyone who is/was below average that used a pump? Would appreciate any knowledge/tips on how to get the most out of a pump for a smaller guy :)

Hi Anonymous,

Like 8x6Dream said “exhaust the newbie gains first”. You should continue with the newbie routine for at least 4 months, and not even think of buying any gear before then.

The answer to the first question: The only good starting pump is a top quality cylinder, and pump with a gauge. Don’t buy toys.

Answer to the second question: People get good results with air as well, so don’t worry about water too much at this stage… heat is the key.

And to answer the last part of that question… I don’t see how vacuums can distinguish between different size penises. The main thing is that you buy the correct size cylinder… which we can discuss later, when your 4 months are up. ;)


Starting Stats: BPEL 7.0¨ x MEG 5.3¨ (4th Nov 2015)

Current Stats: BPEL 7.83¨ x MEG 5.6¨ (14th June 2018)

The Dream: BPEL 8.1¨ x EG 6.1¨ (Not sure if the wife supports ¨the dream¨)

Originally Posted by Skygod2016
Hi Jolie,

You should not be losing your erection under vaccum. If anything, you should be gaining.

Like the last poster said, you may be loosing vacuum. This maybe because of a bad seal, e.g. long public hair, or not enough vacuum to keep a good seal.

2Hg is even low for a Newbie. Even I started at 3Hg, and I’m a bit of a girl ;) I was also pumping for only 7 minutes when I started. So if your a little nervous upping the vaccum, you could reduce the time to compensate.

You could also watch some porn, for added stimulation, but this should not be necessary under vaccum. Remember heat as well.

Good luck ;)

Thanks Skygod. That’s weird then. According to my gauge I am not losing any vacuum, but it is definitely decreasing my size and not at all expanding. The loss of size is most noticable in the first 2-3minutes and then it halts a bit. Furthermore if I get an erection after I pumped my size is not bigger at all. Is something wrong with my gauge? And why are my erections not bigger post-pump?

Originally Posted by Jopie

Thanks Skygod. That’s weird then. According to my gauge I am not losing any vacuum, but it is definitely decreasing my size and not at all expanding. The loss of size is most noticable in the first 2-3minutes and then it halts a bit. Furthermore if I get an erection after I pumped my size is not bigger at all. Is something wrong with my gauge? And why are my erections not bigger post-pump?

You shouldn’t expect too much size increase after pumping. There’s only one thing that will massively increase your size, and that’s fluid retention and not wanted. So, me for example, with soft air pumping AND rock-hard erection AND a cock-ring, I gain +.25”, +.375” tops (girth). I gain 0 length.

If I push pumping to the limit, waterpump and basically overdo it I can get +.5” girth gain but that’s all fluid.

I’ve been reading through the thread and only been pumping for three days now, but I got a question. There’s no pain or anything but my testicles have a tendency to crawl towards the seal and create some discomfort. It’s not painful, just annoying to be honest. Would it be fine to wear a short ball stretcher just to keep them from crawling towards the seal?

Originally Posted by Timeless One
I’ve been reading through the thread and only been pumping for three days now, but I got a question. There’s no pain or anything but my testicles have a tendency to crawl towards the seal and create some discomfort. It’s not painful, just annoying to be honest. Would it be fine to wear a short ball stretcher just to keep them from crawling towards the seal?

Yes I do it all the time

Originally Posted by austfred

Yes I do it all the time

Cool. I’m gonna try it tomorrow and see how it goes. Thanks for the quick answer!

Originally Posted by MisterW
You shouldn’t expect too much size increase after pumping. There’s only one thing that will massively increase your size, and that’s fluid retention and not wanted. So, me for example, with soft air pumping AND rock-hard erection AND a cock-ring, I gain +.25”, +.375” tops (girth). I gain 0 length.
If I push pumping to the limit, waterpump and basically overdo it I can get +.5” girth gain but that’s all fluid.

You don’t lose erection size though right? I wonder why I’m losing size since my vacuum gauche says im maintaining the same pressure. Furthermore, feeling wise, it does not feel like im losing pressure either. Just that my 100% hard erection fades away during the first few minutes even though its vacuumed.

I gain anywhere from .25” to .50” in MEG. Sometimes up to .25” BPEL too.


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As of 01/2017 7 1/2" BPEL x 4 7/8" MEG

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Originally Posted by Jopie
You don’t lose erection size though right? I wonder why I’m losing size since my vacuum gauche says im maintaining the same pressure. Furthermore, feeling wise, it does not feel like im losing pressure either. Just that my 100% hard erection fades away during the first few minutes even though its vacuumed.


Hi Jopie,

I’ve had no experience at 2Hg. I started at 3Hg. I’m in my 40’s, and it would be impossible for me to lose my erection at 3Hg.

I wouldn’t be surprised if gauges at low hg are a little inaccurate. Maybe 2Hg on your gauge is only 1Hg, who knows without testing.

I wouldn’t stress though. Finding the right hg on your gauge is the trick… the numbers on the gauge are only a guide.

I would give 3Hg a go. I don’t see a problem, it’s still very low. If your losing your erection, the vaccum must be too low, and you’re wasting your time. If anything, you should be gaining length, not losing it.

Good luck. ;)


Starting Stats: BPEL 7.0¨ x MEG 5.3¨ (4th Nov 2015)

Current Stats: BPEL 7.83¨ x MEG 5.6¨ (14th June 2018)

The Dream: BPEL 8.1¨ x EG 6.1¨ (Not sure if the wife supports ¨the dream¨)

I alternate between an electric pump that keeps things right at 5hg and an older manual LA Pump with gauge that I milk and have to periodically pump to keep between 5hg and 6hg. I always wrap with a heat pad, and the combo is working for me so far.

I tried using my pump with water. Interestingly enough I do get a girth increase when I use water, but do not have girth increase with vacuum. This makes no sense?

Originally Posted by MisterW
You shouldn’t expect too much size increase after pumping. There’s only one thing that will massively increase your size, and that’s fluid retention and not wanted. So, me for example, with soft air pumping AND rock-hard erection AND a cock-ring, I gain +.25”, +.375” tops (girth). I gain 0 length.
If I push pumping to the limit, waterpump and basically overdo it I can get +.5” girth gain but that’s all fluid.

So you pump with a cockring? Short times sets?


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I’ve now pumped a little over a month (added it to my regular routine) and it works wonderfully. However, I have a small question regarding jelqing and pumping: Is it alright to do jelqs before pumping rather than after? For me it feels a little “off” every time I jelq after pumping.

Yes, you can jelq first.


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Originally Posted by Jopie
I tried using my pump with water. Interestingly enough I do get a girth increase when I use water, but do not have girth increase with vacuum. This makes no sense?

Are you measuring after pumping or just looking at your meat in the tube? The water creates an optical illusion making you look bigger in the tube.

I have both an air pump and a bathmate water pump. I do get better expansion with the water pump but I don’t always have the motivation to deal with the water.

I believe I get better results with the water pumping due to the progressive stress relaxation concept.

If you’re interested, check out the physics of water pumping thread. It’s a long thread with a lot of science talk but IMO it’s well worth it to read.

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