Originally Posted by petersellers
Avocet, may I ask how long you have been pumping? I pumped for close to six years, and I was not an over zealous pumper. I did not make many mistakes when I pumped, I am sure that you, in your pumping life time have made big mistakes and do not tell me you have not? All pumpers have those day’s when they try to get the extra mile, so to speak
Now you know if you have pumped for more than a couple of years that when you try to an erection you dick is spongy and feels like a soft balloon. At least it should if you are a veteran pumper, which I assume you are?
I know from my own experience that pumping provides great feeling and is very relaxing, but I do care who you are, if you are a pumper for more than a couple of years you will get a spongy dick.
If you telling these new guy’s that any gains they get through pumping, will be permanent then you are fooling them and your self. Because what you end up with is a spongy cock that makes an erection nearly impossible. I was considered to be a veteran pumper and I prided my self on safety first, but it did not matter how safe I thought I was, I did end up with a spongy cock. It took me about six months to get to a normal erection.
I am just trying to be helpful and provide some light for the new guy’s
It will be four years this December that I have been pumping. I pumped 6 days on, 1 day off for much of that time. When my work schedule changed, I dropped back to 5 days on, 2 days off.
For 10 months prior to buying a pump I researched all of the pumping forums trying to learn how to avoid any sort of penile distortion or damage through pumping. I wanted no bloating, no change in the basic shape of my cock; just wanted more length/girth. And, because I have ED, I wanted to learn how pumping might lessen the degree of my ED, which it has.
My erections, both for pumping and sexual ones, are firm, unbendable and not the least spongy. Nowadays it is unusual for me to wake without a hard morning erection. I do not build up lymphatic fluid in my cock because of the manner in which I pump.
Mistakes I have made in PE:
One time only, early on, I exceeded my pressure range and ended up with a doughnut. I knew enough about the doughnut phenomenon to be aware that each subsequent doughnut one gets weakens the tissue and skin in the area of the circumcision scar (I am cut) making doughnuts more likely to occur. I did not get another one, ever.
A little more than two years ago I began doing Horse 440s. These are extremely strenuous manual squeezes, even for vets of PE. I developed two long, dark discolorations on the ventral side of my cock which ran from my glans to near the base, on both sides of my urethra. These have taken two years to disappear.
On two occasions I got red spots either from staying too long in the cylinder or going a bit too high on my pressure. I do not, personally, feel that red spots are necessary in the process of getting gains and in my case, having ED that is vascular in cause, I certainly do not want to be giving myself any ruptured capillaries. I have managed to avoid red spots since.
Re: PE (and pumping) gain permanence:
I am on record in a number of threads here at Thunder’s in saying that I do not believe that any gains from any form of PE are “permanent” for all men who do PE. Some vets who have quit PE altogether for a year or more then reported back here to Thunders or other PE sites have said they did not lose their gains. I know that in my case I need to continue some “maintenance” program to keep all of mine. Through some experimentation I now know that about 8 days a month of fairly lazy work keeps me well within the lower limit of 8 x 6 Club. If I don’t do that much work, I will gradually drift back to about 7.5 (I started PE at exactly 6” length) but with no loss of girth gains. When I resume PE and pumping again, I get that loss back pretty quickly, within a month.
In answer to your statement that all men who pump sensibly for more than a couple years develop spongy erections I must disagree completely. My guess, knowing quite a bit about ED and its causes, is that in your case whatever is the root cause of your own ED (diabetes, taking medications that cause vascular degereration, whatever) worsened and that is the reason your erections became spongy. Either that, or you overdid pumping in some serious way.
Meanwhile, I do not understand why you encourge men, repeatedly, to buy equipment from your favorite pumping site believing as you apparently do that pumping will surely give these men soft erections two years down the road.
