AndyJ's Body Enhancement Thread

I’m back to alternating clamping and pumping now. You (well, I) would expect that doing that would cause more edema; in practice, it lets me get another session or two in before edema becomes a problem. I’m still trying to figure that out.

When I made up the previous batch of Glop (shea butter and hyaluronic acid) I added PABA, which I had used before, and sodium nitrite, which I had also used before… but not at the same time. Apparently they had a chemical reaction where they gave my skin a yellow tint. I didn’t really care about the color of my shaft, but it made my right hand look like I was a chain smoker.

When I resumed pumping after getting out of the hospital I used jojoba oil instead. It’s nice stuff; slippery but wipes off easily, only a very faint odor, no staining of bedding or clothes. But it’s a thin liquid, and a bit wasteful to apply. However, it’s a very thin liquid even at quite low temperatures, while standard Glop turns into a rock at around 60F.

Last night I made up a new batch of Glop: shea butter, hyaluronic acid, and I added jojoba oil a bit at a time until I got a thin creamy texture. I used it this night and this morning for pumping and edging, and it worked fabulously, even when the room was very cold. So I think that’s going to be the new standard Glop.

After losing so much weight I have prominent "worm track" veins in my legs. The doc said that’s normal, particularly at my age, though they are unsightly. There’s a procedure where plastic surgeons will go in and remove the veins, but they’re not *that* unsightly. Particularly at what it would probably cost. (not covered by medical insurance)

A few days ago I was browsing an article on DMSO, which the FDA is now allowing for human use for a few more specialized applications. One of them is the reduction of protruberant leg veins. I found several medical papers as well as a few web articles about it. None of them had a good explanation for *how* DMSO was supposed to accomplish that trick, and frankly, none of the papers and articles seemed particularly credible.

On the other hand, it looks like something easy to test. One source said their protocol was just to apply DMSO to the skin every other day, and they saw results in two or three months. I have a half-liter bottle of DMSO and two legs; I can apply it to one leg every other day, wait three months, and compare it to the other leg. Easy-peasy.

Unfortunately my bottle of DMSO isn’t in the box with all the other PE lotion / cream / essence / extract / oil / "stuff". I can’t think of a reason for it *not* to be there. All the stuff I used to mix into it is there. If I can’t find the DMSO in the next few days I’ll order some more.

Interesting — I wonder if DMSO can hellp with the veins. Do you have to take it for months/ years or is it a quick fix?

Where are you finding DMSO at? I thought that stuff was pulled from the market decades ago, though still available for veterinarian practices, particularly for muscle rehabilitation in horses. I guess I should recheck that.

I seem to remember my dad telling me their trainer in high school football would use it topically for sprains, strains, and tears.

blink2000: one of the papers said two to three months

114life: You can buy DMSO anywhere - Tractor Supply, eBay, Amazon. I got mine from eBay.

Back in the 1960s some hucksters were promoting DMSO as the new wonder medication; it could restore virility, cure cancer or baldness, etc. The FDA got their freak on, and instead of going after the hucksters, they mostly banned DMSO for human use. Veterinarians continued to use it, and it’s the facilitator for most "transdermal" patches. They’ve slowly been allowing it for various specific uses. RFK has said he will issue an order to unban DMSO completely, once he’s sworn in.

Europe went the other route - it’s okay to use DMSO, but mostly illegal to sell it.

DMSO’s primary use is as an industrial solvent used in paper processing.

Still alternating between pumping and clamping, 15 minutes of pumping and 10 minutes of clamping. I’m averaging sets of three, sometimes four, each morning.

I have experimented with skipping the clamping, and I get substantial edema after the third pump. With clamping, very little.

I’ve also paid attention to something that I had ignored for a while. I’m using a fairly close-fitting tube. There’s not much room for girth increase, even if I pack it all the way to the glans. I’ll pull out of the tube, and my shaft is tube-shaped. Then, if I’ve pumped too much, edema will occur over the next few minutes.

My current theory is that the shaft is seeing extended pumping as "trauma", and edema is a normal reaction to that, like when you hit your finger with a hammer or how your face swells when you take a baseball to the face. So when the shaft comes out of the tube, there’s room for lymph, which then shows up as edema.

With the clamp, movement of lymph is restricted, so the amount of edema is very small. If I end a multiple session with a pump, I get edema. If I end with the clamp, edema is negligible. Edema (at least for me) occurs quickly, or not at all; when I put the clamp on immediately, the "edema reaction" passes before I take the clamp off.

In support of this theory, I’ve gotten edema from jelquing, masturbation, and vacuum hanging/extending. But I’ve never gotten edema from clamping, at least so far.

75 to 100 minutes of girth work in the morning? That’s amazing. I recall you used to do morning and night sessions with your previous routine, would you do night sessions with this routine also?

Whenever I exclusively clamped, before I pumped, I used to get edema. I was doing an hour long session with short breaks every ten minutes.

If I am caught on a call longer than I expected and it causes me to have my pump on for too long then I get edema also.

Currently the only way for me to limit edema is to limit the amount of girth work I do. Though I can build this limit up so it’s not too bad.

I wonder why the clamping would impede the edema.

Yeah, usually. Then I’ll usually lift weights, walk, or bicycle. After retiring, PE and general fitness are my main activities.

I have mostly avoided girth-oriented PE for years, but I got girth gains anyway. My logs showed that I tend to get length gains after girth gains, which I then mostly lose after the increase in length.

There have been periodic discussions about whether to think of the penis as a rope or a balloon. I’m starting to think of the tunica as more like a Chinese finger trap. If you make it larger one way, it’s easier to make it larger the other. So now I’m doing traditional girth-oriented work like clamping and jelquing.

It’s an experiment. Over the next year I hope to have enough data logged to know if I’m onto something or just barking up the wrong tree.

I usually do an hour or so of PE in the evening as well. All that PE hammers EQ. I stopped PE for a couple of weeks after having hernia surgery in November; EQ improved dramatically, then fell off again as I resumed PE. Which I expected, and didn’t worry about.

My theory - I’m full of theories this week - is that edema works like this:

1) the penis "sees" pumping as trauma
2) edema is a natural reaction to trauma
3) in a close-fitting tube, there’s no room for edema to form
4) out of the tube, edema quickly moves to the end of the penis
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5) the edema response doesn’t last very long (<10 minutes)
6) if you clamp before edema gets very far, edema doesn’t form after removing the clamp

Supporting data for "trauma response":

I get edema when doing most forms of PE - pumping, jelquing, hanging, extending - if the sessions are long enough.

In particular, when vacuum extending or hanging, even with a small cap, tight sleeve, and my shaft pulled out much thinner than normal. Edema will form shortly after removing the sleeve, though the sessions need to be several hours for that to happen.

Overview spreadsheet for 2024. Early Microsoft Escel .xls format.

Columns:

BP (avg) resting:
added up daily readings, divided, rounded average up to next whole number

includes sitting, laying down, two different wrist cuffs, and readings at the doctor’s office. Does NOT include standing measurements.

used several different meters; they only matched +/- 5 points or so

meters were generally in agreement with the wall unit at the doctor’s office

BP (avg) standing:
the standing BP reading, averaged if more than one per day

P-p (avg):
pulse pressure - subtract diastolic BP from systolic BP
one column for resting, one for standing

pulse BPM:
beats per minute from oximeters; averaged per day

note: BP and pulse readings bounce around all over the place.

respiratory———————————————————————————————-

SpO2 (avg):
pulse oximeter. Averaged sitting, laying down
two different meters used

PI% (avg):
the oximeters have Perfusion Index readouts. The PI numbers can start off anywhere between 0.7% and 20%, then wander up and down for the next few minutes, until the oximeter turns itself off. Sometimes the reading will stabilize for a while; I record that. Other times I determine a SWAG average and record that.

This column has daily arithmetic averages. The raw data is in another spreadsheet.

RFWT (Rockport Fitness Walking Test)
used to guesstimate VO2 for middle-aged and older people
formula for 1 mile walk + pulse rate

lung vol. (ml):
taken with common Volodyne 5000 gauge

readings are only approximate; exhaling into it stresses my abdominal hernia; the discomfort level and how tightly I’ve wrapped the Ace bandage to restrain the hernia affect my breathing a bit

resting resp.:
respiration rate; one of the oximeters has that function.

CPAP resp. (from "Oscar" analyzer software for Resmed 9)
sleeping respiration rate, from CPAP machine

CPAP TTIA:
"Total Time In Apnea", in minutes

CPAP press:
CPAP pressure. Default minimum is 10

CPAP usage:
daily CPAP usage, in decimal hours. (ie, "6.5 hours", not 6h30m)

nutrition/meds——————————————————————————————

diet:
SAD - "Standard American Diet"
keto - ketogenic diet

carbs grams:
daily carbohydrate consumption

gluc. fast:
morning reading if more than one was taken per day

TRT inj:
volume.

BP med:
typically Bumex (diuretic) or Lisinopril (ACE inhibitor)
occasionally Lasix (loop diuretic)
"Bu+Lis" would be Bumex + Lisinopril
"La+Lis" would be Lasix + Lisinopril

measurements —————————————————————————————-

weight:
weight in pounds, mornings after shower

BMI:
from nih.gov web calculator, based on 5’10" height

temp:
oral temperature with a digital thermometer

I have several thermometers, all read low, so I just use the one that’s most convenient

shldr:
circumference of shoulders, around "points" on outside

chest:
chest circumference, above nipples

waist:
waist circumference, around belly button

abd/butt:
"abdominal roll" circumference above groin

thighs:
thigh circumference, average both legs

calf:
calf circumference, average both legs

using a compression wrap for lymphedema on left leg; when wrapped, circumference is about the same as right leg, so averaging both legs instead of using only right leg

upper arms:
circumference around tops of biceps/triceps, averaged

fore arms:
circumference at largest part of forearms, averaged

wrist:
circumference of wrists, averaged

neck:
circumference of neck, just below "Adam’s apple."

Blood pressure spreadsheet. This is the raw data. Includes SPO2 blood oxygen, Perfusion Index, and respiration.

Blood pressure varies all over the place, from hour to hour. I track laying down, sitting, and occasionally standing.

Due to the variation I average the figures across the day in this sheet, then transfer the averaged daily figures to the overview spreadsheet, where they’re averaged monthly.

The Perfusion Index numbers seem nearly random; I record them since, hey, it’s data right there on the finger cuff, but I’m not sure it actually means anything.

Lab reports, 2016-2024.

Every lab has their own abbreviations and their own acceptable ranges, and different ideas of formatting. I find it convenient to have everything in a common spreadsheet to see trends over time. Actually, I’m in very good shape for my age.

PE file - what I’ve done each day in tedious detail.

I have yet another file, meds, supplements, diet, etc. that’s probably not very relevant to PE work.