Bigger than a Bridge

Congratulations on your gains, keep up the good pace of work.

To me it seems too risky, according to Xeno, a high intensity for a short time gives better results than low or medium intensity over large periods of time. But he has a lot of experience.
What are your goals in the medium term or your final goal?

As advice I must tell you to be careful what you want that can be fulfilled and then become a curse rather than a blessing.

regards

If your glans is getting cold then you are likely to blister it. That will take more than a week to heal.

If the glans is stinging then it is on the verge of blistering.

If you have a daily routine longer than 20 minutes and you do it every day then you are likely to see some skin and/or vein damage that takes time to heal.

I took the same view with penis pumping as an athlete or dancer takes to getting extra joint movement. Warming up and building up to higher sustained stretch of 20 seconds or so then loosening up by lower intensity pump cycling to circulate blood. Repeat that cycle for a 20 minute session. I have had one hour sessions but after a while there is skin damage that takes time to heal. It is better to avoid the damage by limiting the length of the session. 30 minutes each day mat be possible.

Ensuring the penis stays warm indicates good blood circulation. If the glans gets cold it is closer to blistering.

If you work to an exact time and sequence each day then it is possible to detect slight gains over a week or month. If you change the time and sequence then there is the desire to push beyond the limit at the end of the week or each day to show some gain. If you can detect 0.1” length gain in a month then you will get more than 1” in a year. In my case I got as much girth increase from pumping as length increase so my penis was significantly bigger volume after the first year of pumping - more than I got from 5 years of stretching and jelqing.

You have to live with the penis you create as there is no easy way to go backward from permanent gains. It takes time to assess the ups and down of a bigger penis and scrotum dangling lower. Some women find a penis with girth above 6” uncomfortable.

If your glans is getting cold then you are likely to blister it. That will take more than a week to heal.

If the glans is stinging then it is on the verge of blistering.

If you have a daily routine longer than 20 minutes and you do it every day then you are likely to see some skin and/or vein damage that takes time to heal.

I took the same view with penis pumping as an athlete or dancer takes to getting extra joint movement. Warming up and building up to higher sustained stretch of 20 seconds or so then loosening up by lower intensity pump cycling to circulate blood. Repeat that cycle for a 20 minute session. I have had one hour sessions but after a while there is skin damage that takes time to heal. It is better to avoid the damage by limiting the length of the session. 30 minutes each day mat be possible.

Ensuring the penis stays warm indicates good blood circulation. If the glans gets cold it is closer to blistering.

If you work to an exact time and sequence each day then it is possible to detect slight gains over a week or month. If you change the time and sequence then there is the desire to push beyond the limit at the end of the week or each day to show some gain. If you can detect 0.1” length gain in a month then you will get more than 1” in a year. In my case I got as much girth increase from pumping as length increase so my penis was significantly bigger volume after the first year of pumping - more than I got from 5 years of stretching and jelqing.

You have to live with the penis you create as there is no easy way to go backward from permanent gains. It takes time to assess the ups and down of a bigger penis and scrotum dangling lower. Some women find a penis with girth above 6” uncomfortable.

I’m getting sick of legitimate members getting banned here.

TigerStyle wasn’t a troll. He was a guy with 2 years of experience, very excited to gain, trying out some intense PE. All he wanted was a giant 10x7 dick. Is that so wrong?

I’m starting to think if I hadn’t started the Big Gainers thread years ago, or if I’d gone about it a little differently, I’d probably be banned from here by now too.

If xenolith had joined in 2014 instead of 2004, and came here to share all his methods of how he’d grown a 9x6, he’d probably be banned too.

I will expose the ugly pattern for those of you who don’t notice it. Big gainer or newbie joins the site. They share unique or extreme methods, or are interested in unique methods - which may be different (OMG) from the mainstream advice given by the moderators here at Thunder’s. They report amazing gains, or an interest in achieving amazing gains - of over 10 cubic inches of volume. Sometimes even over 20 cubic inches gain. Certain moderators antagonize big gainer or exploratory newbie, treating them like liars or idiots, extending them no basic decency, until they get a ban-able reaction out of the big gainer or newbie. In other words, the mods disregard the forum guidelines, which they are immune to; until those with the different ideas violate the forum guidelines in kind, and are shown the exit. I don’t even know if TigerStyle broke any rules. Who cares right? As long as he’s gone. Now we’re all safe from a 26 year old pumping his dick up, and we can go back to sleep. That’s all that matters. Nothing to see here. I thought it would change after marinera left, but now I see there are a thousand more Agent Smiths to take his place. The amazing thing is - TigerStyle idolized you guys, had infinite patience with you, and instantly forgave you. It’s a fucking travesty man.

So I’m going to drop some truth all over this bullshit. Extreme gains are absolutely possible. And some lucky few can achieve them using the mainstream advice. The rest of us will need to be extreme to gain extreme. There are no shortcuts in PE or in life. It might be an extreme method of force application, or an extreme amount of time, or an extreme amount of dedication over many years. Almost definitely extreme effort. But if you come to Thunder’s and stretch and jelq for a few years, you’re probably going to gain 3 cubic inches like most people do. If you want to gain 10-20 cubic inches, you’re going to have to do more. You’re going to have to work harder and longer. You’re going to have to know more. You’re going to have to explore and experiment. You’re going to have to break a few eggs along the way, as Bib would say. If you believe you can do it, you can. Everything you need to know is already written here if you’re willing to search and find it. Tell me o monks, what cannot be achieved through effort? Damn near nothing.

For some reason though, we’re not supposed to talk about that. Protecting the newbies from injuries is the official party line. Sounds more like protecting them from gains to me. Why do the newbies need protecting anyway? They’re full grown men, pulling on their penis of their own free will, with access a comprehensive living tome of knowledge on how to do it. Injuries are the result of a gross misapplication of that knowledge. Besides, the dick is tough as nails. Any “injury” heals within a few weeks. Even seemingly permanent scars and discoloration to the skin fade away after some years. Even nerve damage and numbness goes away in a matter of months. Some guys have bled from their urethra and have recovered and ready to PE again in a couple weeks. If you injure yourself, you learn something about PE and your limits.

You guys are supposed to be moderating people from treating each other like assholes and posting like illiterate idiots, all the more important now because of the spread of texting. Not moderating the discussion of knowledge. You have no responsibility to “save” guys from “injury” by squashing extreme ideas. It doesn’t even work anyway. The guys who injure themselves are going to injure themselves anyway no matter what you do. So many warnings on the site to pace yourself, so many obvious signs from the body that an injury is approaching, so many opportunities to back off before that injury occurs. A guy has to try pretty hard to actually injure himself. Some people gotta learn their lessons the hard way. You’re ain’t protecting people from shit. Those of you who lead these witch hunts against free thinking members are just a bunch of anonymous guys flashing your honorary dick badge while you force a bunch of other anonymous guys to submit to your will. It probably makes your balls feel big, but sorry to break it to you, they’re not permanent gains. No shortcuts for that either.

Or maybe you don’t want other people to gain big. Maybe you want to keep all this knowledge a secret to yourselves. Yeah, yeah, just keep jelqing and stretching, ignore the fact that I tried every PE method known to man on my own path to big gains. Pay no attention to the 10 years or more I’ve done this. Take your average gains and move on from this place, while I double or triple my dick. Is that it? I really don’t know. But if so, refer to a few paragraphs up. Even if PE were so completely mainstream that it was taught in high school sex ed classes and known to every male on the planet, you still probably have to do it like a part time job for a decade to get huge gains. The only big gainers would still be the guys who really want it and are willing to do the work.

Don’t hide the knowledge. Don’t fight the exchange of information. It’s all been written here a hundred times before anyway. The pioneers thought of almost everything in those first few years. Long before most of us here today even started pulling on our dick, Thunder’s Place was formed by hundreds of men just like the guys you are now banning. You can go back and read the threads if you want. Back then only 7% of the world population had access to the internet. And the people who did use it, used it to communicate about their own already existing hobbies and interests. The forum was full of PE purists and naturals. No tourists. Guys who joined together for the simple love of the idea of having a big dick, and the idea that you could gain one by simply pulling on it, squeezing it, and pumping it up. They tried anything and everything. They made their own gear, they dared to imagine, to innovate; they cheered each other on. Tried out each other’s ideas, without fear or guilt. They pushed their limits. And they had a good time doing it. They got injured no more than we do now, and in my personal opinion, there were a hell of a lot more big gainers back then than there are now. You can believe whatever you want. You can pretend they were all liars. But I’ve got my own understanding. They wanted it more, and supported each other. They were willing to take the risks, and do the work.

Now we are banning excited newbies for no fucking reason and persecuting big gainers who come here to share their inventions. What the fuck happened? Nothing bad is going to happen by trying out new methods or new devices. Worst case scenario is some newbies learn some lessons the hard way. But this place might start to stink more and more if certain mods don’t reconnect with that joy we all share at having a bigger dick. As long as a guy is here for that reason, and not pissing on the floor, they’re a member in good standing, at least in my eyes. This idea that every newbie is a fragile child, who needs a moderator to hold their hand while they repeat the mantra that penis size doesn’t matter has got to go. We are men. We all know how to read. And we all came here for the same reason.

Hallelujah, holy shit, where’s the tylenol?

Why is there Tigerstyle..with a quote this guy is a troll…and then underneath a member called this guy is a troll taking as though he is Tigerstyle? I have come into this completely unbiased but that does appear strange?