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Originally Posted by freelancer911
Your theory is very interesting. I’m going to save your topic, in a few months I’ll try hanging.

Could you explain about the ideal softening temperature of the tunica. I’m using an IR. I thought the hotter the better.

I did an experiment with US and IR to see which is hotter. IR I only reached 100 degrees after about 10 min if I remember correctly. Whereas with US the inside temperature reading from a thermometer in my urethra was 103-110 after just 3-5 minutes at 1mhz 2.0w/cm2.

There is extensive literature supporting that collagen starts to become more “malleable” at 40 Celsius, but really anything above body temperature would do that, so 37 plus. Ideally research has shown for rat tail tendon and other collage nous structures that 42 Celsius seems to be a sweet spot.

I’ve gotten up to 45 with my experiment but it was very difficult to maintain.

I’d say if you have IR aim for 15min of IR and cool down for 5min as the collagen gets restructured whence it cools. That’s what I used to do prior to getting an US.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
Hi Manko,

Thanks for the excellent information. I noticed on another thread you were aiming for a mushroom head - did you have any luck with achieving this?

I didn’t much. I made a pump with a head cylinder space that I only used a couple times, because my shaft grew bigger, so I couldn’t fit into it. But I’ve read you can use such a pump to accomplish that. But I am not sure how they did it. Via long hours of 2-3 hg pumping I imagine.

I haven’t had much success growing head sad to say.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

I haven’t encountered any stories where there has been significant permanent change to glans size. I would be interested even in temporary increase, I will keep looking.

Thanks mate.

Originally Posted by NicholasVan
I haven’t encountered any stories where there has been significant permanent change to glans size. I would be interested even in temporary increase, I will keep looking.

Thanks mate.

If temporary, my best result was about 1-1.5cm increase by using phallosan forte bells and packing them one after the other increasing the bell size up to the XL bell. I also made an XXL bell with a pill container and a leluv valve you van purchase valve separately and just epoxy it into the container. Then you just need a pump gun and a silicone sleeve to mimic the phallosan design. It works quite the same as phallosan if all you want is to pump your head up.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Janko thanks for explaining how your progress is coming along. I appreciate how you take the time to spell out the abbreviations. IPR is so confusing to me. I have read over it a few times and it is dizzying.

Originally Posted by midatlantic
Janko thanks for explaining how your progress is coming along. I appreciate how you take the time to spell out the abbreviations. IPR is so confusing to me. I have read over it a few times and it is dizzying.

My pleasure :) I think the abbreviations are automatically spelled out by thunders btw, some of them at least.

Just keep at it. Everything looks confusing and complicated when you start but it gets clearer and easier to understand as you continue to hammer on. Let me know if you need any help understanding something.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

One of the other things that strikes me as interesting here is that this goes contrary to the idea of continuous creep, as in not allowing rest days in terms of the classic “bib” type of protocol. The idea there being to weaken the tissues and to keep them from strengthening.

Where as the idea that has always made sense to me is sufficient traction to induce proliferation but below the level of strengthening/injury. I am of the opinion that below that level the mechanism of action is no different between stress relaxation or creep.

That said, have you guys gained insight into diminishing returns?


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Originally Posted by Buckfever

Where as the idea that has always made sense to me is sufficient traction to induce proliferation but below the level of strengthening/injury. I am of the opinion that below that level the mechanism of action is no different between stress relaxation or creep.

That said, have you guys gained insight into diminishing returns?

Riding in the sweat spot they said.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

Originally Posted by Kyrpa
Riding in the sweat spot they said.

What of the long or short run diminishing returns?

Originally Posted by Buckfever
What of the long or short run diminishing returns?

How about series of short run diminishing returns. As in the long run there would be too many variables if not all of them.


START 18/13.15 cm Jul 24th 18 (7.09/5.18") NOW 22.5/15.2 cm Fer 12th 20 (8.86/5.98") GOAL 8.5"/ 6"

When connective tissue is stretched within therapeutic temperatures ranging 102 to 110 F (38.9- 43.3 C), the amount of structural weakening produced by a given amount of tissue elongation varies inversely with the temperature. This is apparently related to the progressive increase in the viscous flow properties of the collagenous tissue when it is heated. (Warren et al (1971,1976)

I am very interested in experimenting with ultrasound to heat deeper. Is there any ultrasound machines you would recommend, and is it better to get a 1MHz, or 3MHz machine?

Hey manko

Any conclusion if the girth work helped make up the gap between bpsfl and BPEL?

Originally Posted by Growing4it
I am very interested in experimenting with ultrasound to heat deeper. Is there any ultrasound machines you would recommend, and is it better to get a 1MHz, or 3MHz machine?

I would recommend just the cheap $150 kyrpa got if you can’t afford the $600 or more for 3mhz. I mostly use 1mhz anyway, but the transducer is waterproof so I can use it under the water. I don’t know if the one kyrpa has can be used underwater.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by Slythis
Hey manko

Any conclusion if the girth work helped make up the gap between bpsfl and BPEL?

Thanks for reminding me. It didn’t work. The gap was not filled.

My BPEL went down to 19.7cm from high point of 20.3cm. BPFSL went down from 22 to 21.7cm. GAP is thus 2cm.

My gap has increased permanently every cycle. 1st cycle gap was avg. 0.72cm. 2nd cycle was 1.59. 3rd cycle 1.93.

There is a lot of slack. I am not sure why I can’t bridge the gap between BPEL and BPFSL. All time gap avg. is 1.5cm. So I suppose I can gain about 0.50cm BPEL if I do girth work. This was based on the theory I forgot the name that you need to do smooth muscle work to fill up the balloon if there is slack. But it didn’t work.

I may have miss measured at peak measurements, or I didn’t do enough girth work, or there is X other reason.

Maybe GAP increases over time no matter what permanently.


Genesis 2006 = 5.8" x 4.7" /// Round 3 2019: Hanging again = 7.99" x 5.5" /// ST Goal 2019 = 8" x 6" /// End Game 2020 = 9" x 6.5"

Originally Posted by manko007
Thanks for reminding me. It didn’t work. The gap was not filled.

My BPEL went down to 19.7cm from high point of 20.3cm. BPFSL went down from 22 to 21.7cm. GAP is thus 2cm.

My gap has increased permanently every cycle. 1st cycle gap was avg. 0.72cm. 2nd cycle was 1.59. 3rd cycle 1.93.

There is a lot of slack. I am not sure why I can’t bridge the gap between BPEL and BPFSL. All time gap avg. is 1.5cm. So I suppose I can gain about 0.50cm BPEL if I do girth work. This was based on the theory I forgot the name that you need to do smooth muscle work to fill up the balloon if there is slack. But it didn’t work.

I may have miss measured at peak measurements, or I didn’t do enough girth work, or there is X other reason.

Maybe GAP increases over time no matter what permanently.

The rate of gap increase is diminishing though. Anecdotally it’s always stated that BPFSL precedes BPEL, intimating that the BPEL catches up. Maybe it doesn’t. Maybe just the rate of the gap increase diminishes as actual growth that gets expressed as in the BPEL measurement gets expressed. Maybe the initial increases in FSL are just that and don’t ever manifest in BPEL gains.


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