New guy, never done anything like this before

What kind of gains do you want?

Why don’t you start adding manual work to your pumping routine?

Really girth is all I need, although it would be nice to make small length gains just to prove to my self that it is in fact possible.

I don’t really feel like there’s much I can manually do to target girth.

Why not?

Manual girth work is where all the fun is!

All you need is a great EQ, then Uli’s digging as deep as you can in the fat pad , horse squeezes, manual clamping (Uli’s held for a longer time) , these two can already be intense enough.

You can pump as a great warm up (no need to go for too long), do the manual routine, and do you second pump session again or edge with kegels to maximize expansion.

You didn’t spend a long time without gaining either, so adding gradually these manual exercises could be what you need.

If you try it just make sure to take it slow and not jump into dozens of high intensity squeezes right away.

Maybe my technique just sucks, I don’t know. I guess I’ll have to give it a try.

I’m just a little confused as to why pumping doesn’t yield any gains at all, is it too much or too little. I honestly can’t tell.

Hi

Sounds like you’ve had some great gains either way! I guess it’s possible that you maxed out your pump. What model and size bath mate were you using?

Hey man I started the same way as you basically, with the age and finding this site. For me things that really work are Jelqing. Manuel stretching, Extender (ADS), and Clamping (Esp this one for girth)

If you did pumping 30min and clamping 30min you going to gain girth. But be carefull with the clamping and the pressure when your pumping.

Back after some time.

I got right back on track with gains, it would seem that using heat makes all the difference.
Simply filling the pump with water and then going about your business doesn’t seem to cut it, as soon as I got back to my old way of pumping in the shower with hot water flowing on the pump holding / increasing the warm temperature, I started gaining again.

vodil2950 I’m using the original Bathmate Goliath.

Another update.

Sadly enough I took a break from all PE for several days just to actually see where I’m at, and it turns out I haven’t gained ANYTHING in past year or so.

Wow, don’t really know what is up with that, have thought about many possibilities.

Perhaps using the pump twice a day every day has simply got me plateaued.
Perhaps the pump alone simply doesn’t work anymore at this point.
Perhaps having constant slight lymph buildup just makes a pumping session stretch the lymph more instead of getting the actual shaft, since during my routine in the past year I never got any red dots even with maximum pressure and 30 minute sessions, and now after this break just 8 minutes if enough to get plenty of the red dots.
Perhaps less really is more and I never had time to recover and thus made no gains from the sessions, although I never had any problem achieving good erections, not a single time.

Whatever the case may be I’m really open for suggestions right now, I’m thinking of almost completely ditching the pump and going with jelqing either daily or every other day or some other on off routine.
And again to clarify I’m all for girth, length really doesn’t matter that much although I would not mind gaining a bit of that too, just to prove to myself that it is indeed possible.

After doing nothing but jelqing for the rest of the year I have noticed to gains what so ever.

Starting to wonder what I’m doing wrong.

Should I take a really long break from everything and return later or go ham with even stronger jelqing.

This was very useful for me, I’ll keep it in mind. Thanks.