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08-03-2022, 06:27 AM - Today by StartNow

Start's Log for a Larger Log

Hey guys! I started off my PE Journey from Pegym (or the BioHacker now I guess) and am excited to join this community! I started off in Nov 2020 during COVID after finally deciding to just do it when for the past 10 years I just thought about doing it on and off. Procrastinating at its best! I always found a reason not to start, hence the username as a subtle reminder.

I started out with the JP90 Beginner routine that is so popular and recommended at the other site, finished it, took a few months off due to distractions, and then got back into it and spent another 4 months using the Quick Extender Pro with the highest tension I could handle. With what I know now after lurking in this community the past month I’m glad life got in the way 4 months into my extender journey.

My last day of extending was November 13, 2021, and I haven’t done any PE since. I finally decided to get back into PE about a month ago and as I was perusing the BioHacker forum’s Progress Logs thinking about what to do next, I came across CBateman’s Log. I remembered reading his log last year and found his methodology and principles intriguing at the time, but I had brushed it off for the "Pull hard, for a long time" extender methodology. I re-read his entire log there and was hooked this time around, and that led me to Thunder’s Place forum where I read 5.5Squared’s Log and summary, and then to Longerstretch, Kyrpa and Tutt’s threads and posts.

They’re approach was a breath of fresh air, with evidence-based methodologies I’m more confident in following. That, and the fact that I am a lot busier post-pandemic, I was struggling to figure out a way to fit PE into my day without having to sacrifice something else from my life. So following Kyrpa and Tutt’s principles, as well as CBateman and 5.5Squared’s user-friendly passive application made sense to me. I was hooked by the idea that I only had to spend 1 hour to possibly max 1.5 hours a day on PE, I can do that and move on with the rest of my day! That coupled with putting VALUE on rest days and Deconditioning, still allows me so much time to do other things.

I remember dreading having to extend for 2-4 hours a day. Along with manuals, with a push for no to 1 rest day a week, it took so much of my time. I would sometimes just not feel up to doing my routine or cut it short because of that. If anyone’s into fitness and nutrition, the biggest factor in someone’s success is their adherence. If it’s too hard, over-complicated, takes too much time or a combination of it, you’re probably not enjoying it and will be less likely to stick with it. Consistency is key.

In short, the "time-saving" and "science" aspect have me convinced this is the way to go. Enough blabbering.

I will be roughly following 5.5Squared’s approach. I will be starting very light and slowly adding weight in 200g increments every 2-3 weeks. Right now I am just going to hang 60 minutes straight until I reach a high enough weight where I can increment and add heat. So as of now it is prep with just a light weight and no heat. But the goal will always be to use as low a weight as possible, aka Lite Hanging as 5.5 likes to say.

My flaccid circumference slightly behind my glans is around 86mm. Punching that into Kyrpa’s Calculator and using it as a guide:
Stress-Relaxation Phase (0-0.1 Mpa) = ~1.4kg
Therapeutic Temp. Phase (0.17 Mpa) = ~2.3kg
Cooldown Phase (20-25% of Max Weight) = ~2.8kg (add about 0.50kg)

**I do wonder if I should keep my Cooldown Phase weight at 2.3kg, and lower the max weight for the Therapeutic Temp. Phase to keep in line with the Load Calculator. If anyone has a suggestion please let me know!

I will work my way up to those my ideal ranges of weights over the year. My goal is to not go past 3.2kg this year. If I can help it, to just stay within my ideal range, unless my flaccid circumference changes over the year, in which case I’d have to readjust my weight range.

Once I begin the full routine it will be 4-6 week Cycles with a 3-4 week Decon break.

I bought the Totalman Vacuum Hanger, have both the Thermedic Qi-point 3x6 FIR heating pad and the Totalman heating pad, and some Velcro straps. Got some precision calibration weights in all sorts of increments (50g, 100g, 200g), a plastic bucket and a carabiner.

My setup for now will be standing and hanging SD, carabiner attached to the vacuum cup, then the bucket attached to the carabiner. There I can add my calibration weights as needed.

I haven’t gained much from my previous PE attempts.

Here are my Beginning Stats (Nov 2020):
NBPEL = 5.25"
BPEL = 6" easy | 6 1/16 in or 6.0625" Maxed Out
BPFSL = 6.25"
*MEG = 4.625"
*I don’t like how I used to measure my Girth, so I’ve changed it and standardized the way I measure MEG.

CURRENT STATS(Aug 2022):

NBPEL = 5 1/16 in - 5 3/16 in
I had a bit of an issue maintaining an erection and getting a proper measurement out of this one, but it looks like I can’t really reach 5.25" like my beginner stat showed. I have gained weight since, and I just might have a slightly bigger fat pad now. Or it could have been how I measured in the past.
BPEL = 15.4cm easy | 15.6cm (sometimes slightly past) Maxed Out |
I’ve barely touched 15.7cm or 6 3/16 in when I’m near PONR and edging for a long time. I won’t count it in my Stats, but I wanted to mention it for future reference
BPFSL = 16.5cm
*MEG = 11.5cm-11.6cm (~4.5625")
*Note that my MEG is smaller than my beginner measurement. I now measure pulling my foreskin back as far as possible and measuring the Mid-Erect Girth like that. I find it more consistent and easier to measure when the extra skin is out of the way. I also think it is a measure of my "True" Girth.

So I’ve gained approximately 2mm or 1/16th of an inch in BPEL since I first started.

My end goal would be the magic 8x6.

But I think if I could gain 1"-1.25" BPEL and 0.5" in MEG I would have a lot less anxiety about my penis at that point.
That would be around 7.25x5. I would feel pretty big with that!

So hopefully I can reach at least 1 inch in BPEL gains in the next year, and then work on girth then. But for now, we focus on Length!

It’s been a little over 8 months of an unintended Deconditioning break, hopefully I’ve given my penis enough time to heal from the trauma I caused it during my time extending at high tensions.

Looking forward to this new journey!

08-03-2022, 06:20 AM - 08-03-2022 06:27 AM

Start's Log for a Larger Log

Hey guys! I started off my PE Journey from Pegym (or the BioHacker now I guess) and am excited to join this community! I started off in Nov 2020 during COVID after finally deciding to just do it when for the past 10 years I just thought about doing it on and off. Procrastinating at its best! I always found a reason not to start, hence the username as a subtle reminder.

I started out with the JP90 Beginner routine that is so popular and recommended at the other site, finished it, took a few months off due to distractions, and then got back into it and spent another 4 months using the Quick Extender Pro with the highest tension I could handle. With what I know now after lurking in this community the past month I’m glad life got in the way 4 months into my extender journey.

My last day of extending was November 13, 2021, and I haven’t done any PE since. I finally decided to get back into PE about a month ago and as I was perusing the BioHacker forum’s Progress Logs thinking about what to do next, I came across CBateman’s Log. I remembered reading his log last year and found his methodology and principles intriguing at the time, but I had brushed it off for the "Pull hard, for a long time" extender methodology. I re-read his entire log there and was hooked this time around, and that led me to Thunder’s Place forum where I read 5.5Squared’s Log and summary, and then to Longerstretch, Kyrpa and Tutt’s threads and posts.

They’re approach was a breath of fresh air, with evidence-based methodologies I’m more confident in following. That, and the fact that I am a lot busier post-pandemic, I was struggling to figure out a way to fit PE into my day without having to sacrifice something else from my life. So following Kyrpa and Tutt’s principles, as well as CBateman and 5.5Squared’s user-friendly passive application made sense to me. I was hooked by the idea that I only had to spend 1 hour to possibly max 1.5 hours a day on PE, I can do that and move on with the rest of my day! That coupled with putting VALUE on rest days and Deconditioning, still allows me so much time to do other things.

I remember dreading having to extend for 2-4 hours a day. Along with manuals, with a push for no to 1 rest day a week, it took so much of my time. I would sometimes just not feel up to doing my routine or cut it short because of that. If anyone’s into fitness and nutrition, the biggest factor in someone’s success is their adherence. If it’s too hard, over-complicated, takes too much time or a combination of it, you’re probably not enjoying it and will be less likely to stick with it. Consistency is key.

In short, the "time-saving" and "science" aspect have me convinced this is the way to go. Enough blabbering.

I will be roughly following 5.5Squared’s approach. I will be starting very light and slowly adding weight in 200g increments every 2-3 weeks. Right now I am just going to hang 60 minutes straight until I reach a high enough weight where I can increment and add heat. So as of now it is prep with just a light weight and no heat. But the goal will always be to use as low a weight as possible, aka Lite Hanging as 5.5 likes to say.

My flaccid circumference slightly behind my glans is around 86mm. Punching that into Kyrpa’s Calculator and using it as a guide:
Stress-Relaxation Phase (0-0.1 Mpa) = ~1.4kg
Therapeutic Temp. Phase (0.17 Mpa) = ~2.3kg
Cooldown Phase (20-25% of Max Weight) = ~2.8kg (add about 0.50kg)

**I do wonder if I should keep my Cooldown Phase weight at 2.3kg, and lower the max weight for the Therapeutic Temp. Phase to keep in line with the Load Calculator. If anyone has a suggestion please let me know!

I will work my way up to those my ideal ranges of weights over the year. My goal is to not go past 3.2kg this year. If I can help it, to just stay within my ideal range, unless my flaccid circumference changes over the year, in which case I’d have to readjust my weight range.

Once I begin the full routine it will be 4-6 weeks Cycles with a 3-4 week Decon break.

I bought the Totalman Vacuum Hanger, have both the Thermedic Qi-point 3x6 FIR heating pad and the Totalman heating pad, and some Velcro straps. Got some precision calibration weights in all sorts of increments (50g, 100g, 200g), a plastic bucket and a carabiner.

My setup for now will be standing and hanging SD, carabiner attached to the vacuum cup, then the bucket attached to the carabiner. There I can add my calibration weights as needed.

I haven’t gained much from my previous PE attempts.

Here are my Beginning Stats (Nov 2020):
NBPEL = 5.25"
BPEL = 6" easy | 6 1/16 in or 6.0625" Maxed Out
BPFSL = 6.25"
*MEG = 4.625"
*I don’t like how I used to measure my Girth, so I’ve changed it and standardized the way I measure MEG.

CURRENT STATS(Aug 2022):
NBPEL = 5 1/16 in - 5 3/16 in
I had a bit of an issue maintaining an erection and getting a proper measurement out of this one, but it looks like I can’t really reach 5.25" like my beginner stat showed. I have gained weight since, and I just might have a slightly bigger fat pad now. Or it could have been how I measured in the past.
BPEL = 15.4cm easy | 15.6cm (sometimes slightly past) Maxed Out |
I’ve barely touched 15.7cm or 6 3/16 in when I’m near PONR and edging for a long time. I won’t count it in my Stats, but I wanted to mention it for future reference
BPFSL = 16.5cm
*MEG = 11.5cm-11.6cm (~4.5625")
*Note that my MEG is smaller than my beginner measurement. I now measure pulling my foreskin back as far as possible and measuring the Mid-Erect Girth like that. I find it more consistent and easier to measure when the extra skin is out of the way. I also think it is a measure of my "True" Girth.

So I’ve gained approximately 2mm or 1/16th of an inch in BPEL since I first started.

My end goal would be the magic 8x6.

But I think if I could gain 1"-1.25" BPEL and 0.5" in MEG I would have a lot less anxiety about my penis at that point.
That would be around 7.25x5. I would feel pretty big with that!

So hopefully I can reach at least 1 inch in BPEL gains in the next year, and then work on girth then. But for now, we focus on Length!

It’s been a little over 8 months of an unintended Deconditioning break, hopefully I’ve given my penis enough time to heal from the trauma I caused it during my time extending at high tensions.

Looking forward to this new journey!


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