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Originally Posted by Trapezius
Just ordered US Pro 2000 SE -device. I am taking this seriously this time.

I’m very interested to hear how you do with this. I’ve read most all the threads on it, but honestly it hasn’t fully sunken in yet for me. I mean - I get the value and the science quoted, but practically how does it work? Small circles are the area that you can get to with the vac hanger and extender in the way? How does it feel? How do you shield your nuts?

It would be extremely appreciated if you would document your experience with this in simple, concise layman’s terms.

Of course that’s a lot to ask, but had to ask anyway. Good luck either way!


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Small circles are the area that you can get to with the vac hanger and extender in the way? How does it feel? How do you shield your nuts?

It would be extremely appreciated if you would document your experience with this in simple, concise layman’s terms.

Of course that’s a lot to ask, but had to ask anyway. Good luck either way!

I don’t plan to use it with extender. Plan is to use with vacuum attachment and manually stretching with other hand and other is using US. Let’s see how it works. VacHanger3 takes about 2” shaft space. Would Penismaster Pro take less shaft space? It takes probably over month before it arrives here. Before that I experiment with IR lamp.

I have not thought about shielding balls. My balls have gone to holiday as I have kids already and they did not produce enough testosterone so I am in replacemement. So I am not too worried about my balls anymore 😄. If I did not have kids and not in trt I would be worried about roasting balls with IR or with US.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
I don’t plan to use it with extender. Plan is to use with vacuum attachment and manually stretching with other hand and other is using US. Let’s see how it works. It takes probably over month before it arrives here. Before that I experiment with IR lamp.

I have not thought about shielding balls. My balls have gone to holiday as I have kids already and they did not produce enough testosterone so I am in replacemement. So I am not too worried about my balls anymore 😄. If I did not have kids and not in trt I would be worried about roasting balls with IR or with US.

I’ve got to reread that section of Kyrpa - I’m not sure that’s a good idea from what I read. They were discussing different shielding agents so that the US isn’t reflected back into the penis and causing some overheat - but I didn’t see any clear conclusions on it - I’m sure it’s there, just didn’t see it.

Please let us know how the IR works for you. I’m using a basic electric heating pad at the moment and not sure that I’m getting the real benefits.

Isn’t TRT just the best thing ever invented? It changed my life.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Isn’t TRT just the best thing ever invented? It changed my life.

My stand is that It’s good medication if natural endocrine system is not working good. If natural production is fine, then I would not use test.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
My stand is that It’s good medication if natural endocrine system is not working good. If natural production is fine, then I would not use test.

Mine tested low - it affected almost every part of life. I would never use it unless I tested low.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Cycle 2 session 2
30 min extender without heat 2kg
40 min extender with electric heating pad ramping to 3 kg
10 set of cyclic manuals 4 kg at stretch different directions

Pre BPFSL 18,5
After 18,6 - 18,7 cm

Not looking good, but at least few millimeters more of after bpfsl than last cycles sessions. Next session I’ll try slower ramp to 2kg without heat and slower ramp 3 kg with heat.

Cycle 2, session 3
Little slower build up in pre-stretch force and in heated ramping up to under 3kg. Then cyclic manuals with 4 kg. Feels very light, like no stretch at all. When I get new extender and scale setup I’ll try to do whole session in extender. Also at some point I’ll do it with hanging and over fulcrum hanging. Lot of different things to try.
Pre 18,5cm
After 18,7cm

When heat is introduced the springload goes down for quite long time and I must screw more. That’s good sign that tissues resist less/stretch more. But this does not show in pre and after bpfls. Next time I’ll measure just after heat and extender is removed and again after manual stretches. If I do those manuals wrong and tissues stiffen before cooling down in extended state.

Cycle 3, session 1
IR lamp and TotalMans Vacuum device with extender came today. Did not use IR yet but Totalman extender I tried. I have to get scale setup ready before using it. What should have been 5 lbs of tension felt like a ton. Did whole workout in extender.

Forgot to take pre measurements.
After 18,8 cm.

Really interested to hear how the Beurer IL50 works for you. I’m using a standard plug in heating pad and want to upgrade from that but US is more effort than I’m ready to put in at this time.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Really interested to hear how the Beurer IL50 works for you. I’m using a standard plug in heating pad and want to upgrade from that but US is more effort than I’m ready to put in at this time.

I am quite scared of that lamp. I will atleast have to get good safety goggles with IR filter before I put that thing on. It says on manual NEVER look directly into lamp or it will destroy your eyes!

God damn. Just measured with fishing scale how much tension which compression of spring generates. With compression of only 1,5cm (4,5 cm is max), scale showed 4-7 kg. Very inconsistent depending on angle and friction of threaded rod. Web page tells it should be 2-2,3 kg. So I was accidentally in way too hard tension for over hour. No wonder glans got some edema even it was taped good. With full tension springs generate over 11 kg / 25 lbs. That’s one hardcore extender. Before I would have gone up and up in force, but this time that much force is not needed.

I will make new threaded rods from 6mm bar and so that there is smooth part where springs and especially counterpart is to make it slide more smoothly.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
I am quite scared of that lamp. I will atleast have to get good safety goggles with IR filter before I put that thing on. It says on manual NEVER look directly into lamp or it will destroy your eyes!

Definitely safety first.

How did you choose 300W vs. any other ones? I see a few 150W ones on Amazon too.

The timer on the one you got is limited to 15 minutes - according to my protocol I need 30 minutes - of course I can just run two cycles, but wonder if it’s 15 minutes for a reason?


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Definitely safety first.

How did you choose 300W vs. any other ones? I see a few 150W ones on Amazon too.

The timer on the one you got is limited to 15 minutes - according to my protocol I need 30 minutes - of course I can just run two cycles, but wonder if it’s 15 minutes for a reason?

Mainly because of integrated UV blocker. Other reason is for some reason IL50 300W manual says it is ment to be used 30cm away (at least) and 490W/m2 at 30cm and 30x40cm radiation area. il21 and IL35 150W says at least 80cm and 550W/m2 from that distance. il11 100W says at least 60cm and 680W/m2 from that distance. So I thought it would be better to have it closer and more concentrated to penis.

I did not know of 15min limit and it actually says the machine has to cool down after 15mins. It can be put on immediately though.

I can think of few ways to use it. Put it on table about height of my pelvis and stand on front of it then there would be quite small radiation to head/eyes. Other way is sitting on couch and keeping it by hand, but it weights 1,4kg so hands will get tired. Il11 100W only weights 320g and IL35/21 600g.

We will see if this was bad buy.

Originally Posted by Trapezius
Mainly because of integrated UV blocker. Other reason is for some reason IL50 300W manual says it is ment to be used 30cm away (at least) and 490W/m2 at 30cm and 30x40cm radiation area. il21 and IL35 150W says at least 80cm and 550W/m2 from that distance. il11 100W says at least 60cm and 680W/m2 from that distance. So I thought it would be better to have it closer and more concentrated to penis.

I did not know of 15min limit and it actually says the machine has to cool down after 15mins. It can be put on immediately though.

I can think of few ways to use it. Put it on table about height of my pelvis and stand on front of it then there would be quite small radiation to head/eyes. Other way is sitting on couch and keeping it by hand, but it weights 1,4kg so hands will get tired. Il11 100W only weights 320g and IL35/21 600g.

We will see if this was bad buy.

Makes sense - will be following to see how it works out for you.


Mar21 - BPFSL: 6.5", BPEL: 6.5", NBPEL: 6", MEG: 5.5"

Jan22 - BPFSL: 8" (cold), BPEL: 7.5", NBPEL: 6.875", MEG: 5.5"

One Day - BPFSL: 9.5", BPEL: 9", NBPEL: 8.5", MEG: 6"

Originally Posted by Willis99
Makes sense - will be following to see how it works out for you.

I put the the light on for test and placed it 1m from wall. Looked it from above 50cm away, not in beam of light but saw it, for maybe 5s and then sat on sofa few meters away from lamp that was facing other way to wall. Sat there for few minutes. Fuck my eyes strained even for that and were strained for hours. Some eye cells were damaged. Should have wore at least sun glasses when I put it on. I looked some specs and 150W terrario lamp is 52 C heat at 30cm. 37C at 40cm. That 150W would have been enough. I never put it on without welding mask.

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