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Originally Posted by willy wonka
Surgical decompression of the pudendal nerve is in it’s very early stages and only a few surgeons in the world even attempt it.

As horrendously life-altering as my current symptoms are I wouldn’t want to be a guinea pig for some trailblazing surgery. Would you? Imagine the feeling of going under knowing someone’s going to take a knife to such a complicated area?

The really complicated nerve compression surgeries for the pudendal nerve are if the nerve is entrapped somewhere like the alcock canal. I agree with you completely that this type of decompression surgery is not worth the risk. However, if our problem is at the base of the penis the pudendal nerve should be easily accessible and hopefully can be decompressed.

Originally Posted by biff7686
The really complicated nerve compression surgeries for the pudendal nerve are if the nerve is entrapped somewhere like the alcock canal. I agree with you completely that this type of decompression surgery is not worth the risk. However, if our problem is at the base of the penis the pudendal nerve should be easily accessible and hopefully can be decompressed.

Surely such a problem would show up on an MRI or Ultrasound?

It’s a weird question, but do you guys have noticed that when taking a dump your flacid turns firm ?


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Originally Posted by willy wonka
Surely such a problem would show up on an MRI or Ultrasound?

For me, I actually have done an MRI which has shown scar tissue at the dorsal base of the penis. The base of my penis is extremely weak, but I believe others that have the firm flaccid do not have this problem. The problem lies in what can actually be done about this issue. A lot of doctors do not want to operate on the penis unless absolutely necessary. But I feel in my case surgery might be the only option to regain sensitivity and stabilization of my penis base.

Originally Posted by alin
It’s a weird question, but do you guys have noticed that when taking a dump your flacid turns firm ?

Pelvic floor?

Originally Posted by biff7686
For me, I actually have done an MRI which has shown scar tissue at the dorsal base of the penis. The base of my penis is extremely weak, but I believe others that have the firm flaccid do not have this problem. The problem lies in what can actually be done about this issue. A lot of doctors do not want to operate on the penis unless absolutely necessary. But I feel in my case surgery might be the only option to regain sensitivity and stabilization of my penis base.

Do you have sensitivity loss in your scrotum, Biff?

One of the odd parts of my injury is I immediately suffered numbness/loss or sensitivity of the scrotum aswell as the penis which continues to this day. Both about 80% less sensitive to touch.

Looking at this image:

…..it makes little sense that I would suffer numbness in the scrotum if I had damaged the dorsal nerve on top of the penis as going by that image the nerves to the scrotum and the penis are two different strands of the pudendal nerve. Damaging one strand wouldn’t damage the other? Surely this points to the nerve damage/entrapment being deeper in the pelvic floor?

Have you had a penile ultrasound, Biff?

Originally Posted by biff7686
Did you have a firm flaccid penis with your condition? I am just curious because you do not mention any penile injury, just nerve sensation problems.

And I think for the people who have the firm flaccid it is more that the injury caused the pudendal nerve to become irritated, which lead to the muscles around the nerve to contract thus causing pudendal nerve entrapment problems.

And I agree that staying off of the computer chair and standing is a good idea.

Nope. No firm flaccid for me. This was strictly from sitting too long.

Originally Posted by willy wonka
Do you have sensitivity loss in your scrotum, Biff?

One of the odd parts of my injury is I immediately suffered numbness/loss or sensitivity of the scrotum aswell as the penis which continues to this day. Both about 80% less sensitive to touch.

Looking at this image:

…..it makes little sense that I would suffer numbness in the scrotum if I had damaged the dorsal nerve on top of the penis as going by that image the nerves to the scrotum and the penis are two different strands of the pudendal nerve. Damaging one strand wouldn’t damage the other? Surely this points to the nerve damage/entrapment being deeper in the pelvic floor?

Have you had a penile ultrasound, Biff?

I do have some scrotal numbness. But the numbness in my penis is a lot worse. Personally, I can live with a numb scrotum, but a numb penis is just horrible. I agree with you that the problem may lie deeper in the pelvic floor. For me, it seems that pelvic floor tension is the cause of my slow blood flow. It could also be causing the compression of the pudendal nerve as well. But since their is a drastic sensation difference between the penis and scrotum, I believe for myself the dorsal nerve of the penis is more affected by the compression.

I have had an ultrasound, but that was to measure blood flow in my penis, which was determined to be slow.

I’m curious willy in your case do you have any problems at the base or any other structural abnormalities of the penis? Or is it just numbness and poor erection quality.


Last edited by biff7686 : 09-23-2010 at .

Originally Posted by alin
It’s a weird question, but do you guys have noticed that when taking a dump your flacid turns firm ?

Yes, I have. Also in the time before I take a shit if I need to shit very badly.


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Originally Posted by BMashina
Yes, I have. Also in the time before I take a shit if I need to shit very badly.

When I’m in the same situation my flacid turns firm. Also when I pull my dick hard or it’s very cold. But this “dump situation” makes me wonder if it’s indeed a problem from the perineum area and the pudendum nerve which could be the case, as already mentioned in this thread.

Do you guys take hot baths ?


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Mine also shrinks when I have to take a dump. Are we on to something?

I take a bath once in a great while because it wastes a lot of water, but we used to have a hot tub that I’d sit in daily for my FF condition. It seemed to do nothing for me.


8/12/09 5.70" x 4.9" NBP

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Mine also shrinks and goes hard just before and during a dump.

I’ve recently experienced piles and sometimes wonder if there’s a link. I think I may have developed them a few years ago but it didn’t become obvious until recently.

They do botox injections into the cremaster (sp?) muscle I believe which prevents all this.

Thats funny.. For me, most of the time I take a dump, my penis is soft!

Then again, I squat when I take a dump, I don’t sit on the toilet like you guys do.. I heard that sitting on the toilet like that can stretch the pudendal nerve.. So now I sit on a squat seat lol.. I like it way more actually.

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