Fountain of Youth

Kevin,

Go back and read this thread…you will have all your answers, plus a very cheap source for ALCAR.

AND a cheap source for a appropriate scale ( hint… BAC).

ps. if you are under 30 yrs old, you don’t need this.

sparkyx: Yeah, the improved nightwood was mostly in the beginning. Now it’s back to normal, which is nothing to complain about. Other effects have remained, not diminished.

Kevin: I’ve posted my observations in a couple of posts here during the last 30 days. But I’ve only used FOY for a short time. I’m amazed at the lack of soreness after exercise.

I have maintained a weight of +200lbs for just shy of two weeks now, which was my self imposed pre-requisite for starting this thing. ALCAR, L-ornithine, and scale are all on order. I ordered the ALCAR in capsules which are out of stock. I will begin as soon as I have all of my new toys and will self monitor and keep you all posted on a weekly basis.

I have gained 33 pounds in the last 100 days, taking me to the very edge of the point where I normally hit a plateau. I intend to push my work outs into the realm of psycho intensity once I start with the GH protocol and see if I can keep on gaining 1+lbs per week. I expect that I will be able to gain muscle and trim fat at the same time as this was something I could do in my teens and early twenties.

This should work for you!

I really believe that it is primarily GH that allows that. I find if I do things that crank up the GH, I can lose fat while gaining muscle.

I really don’t buy into the theory that you can’t do both. If your GH is high, you can and WILL!

http://www.1fas … roducts_id=1548

Grean tea extract @ $100/kg. Thae are currently out of stock, and no wonder at that price.

So what is the consensus on where to buy this stuff? Also, how much have you guys noticed the tea keeping you awake, if at all.

iamaru, you can buy 360x300mg capsules at GNC (General Nutrition Center) for some $20. Per gram, that’s more expensive, but pretty convenient, especially if you are not sure you’ll keep taking it for 2000 days.

Once I took a capsule some 4 hours before sleep and something kept me awake. Usually i take it some 5-6 hours before bedtime, and then it’s no problem.

Question Guys. The scale, from beyond a century. Is this it?
CALIBRON X MECHANICAL POCKET GRAM SCALE. Small mechanical scale for accurate dosing of powders. 7 gram capacity and accuracy to 1/100th of a gram! $11.70 Code 704.5
Price $11.70

Also, they only have this ALCAR, is this powder, I assume?
Acetyl L Carnitine Hcl
ACETYL L-CARNITINE HCl. (ALCAR) Similar properties to carnitine, and shown by studies to protect vital organs from oxidative damage while increasing brain levels of choline acetyltransferase, improving cognitive function. It has been used with some success with Alzheimer’s patients. There are claims that testosterone production may be increased with a 1-2 gram dose before breakfast, and that it may trigger a GH release with a protocol of 500mg with 30-100mg ornithine HCl at bedtime. One study showed 2g each per day of L-carnitine & ALCAR beat testosterone in increasing erections and orgasms in men over 60. ALCAR is not as effective as regular carnitine for fat burning, but latest research suggests that it may be used with lipoic acid (ALA) to protect mitochondria and dopamine cells from damage. Sour taste. 100 grams, $9.00 Code 013.7
Price $9.00

Any help is appreciated. I’m just concerned about the scale, it says GRAM scale. Will this do milligrams?

Kevin

That’s the scale I use, and it does allow you to measure milligrams. I also get my ALCAR and
L-Ornithine powders from BAC. Seems to help me. Very vivid dreams and good nocturnal erections
when I take the mix.

BFLR

Got all my toys and have been taking home made pills for 2 days now. I purchased from 1fast400 because BAC was out of stock. As long as I was at it I picked up some other stuff as well: NO products, cap filling machine, etc. The NO supps may skew my observations of GH effects on me a bit but I will keep you all posted.

So far I have been sleeping like a kid again. Unfortionatly in my case this means that after about 3 hours I pop wide awake as I hit the floor grabbing anything handy for a weapon. Must work on towning that down a bit.

Ok, I got the scale, but I’m not sure how to use it. Do I move the black thing on the side without the measurements so that the
scale is balancing, then move the slider to like 525mg for 500mg alcar and 20mg ornithine. Put a 500mg cap of alcar in it and add 20mg ornithine till it balances?

Also, no vitamins either when on this? or is a multivitamin in the am ok? What about supreme greens with msm? That’s got biflavanoids and polyphenols in it.

Come on guys, help a fool.

Kevin

I am using an electronic mg scale so no help.

Kevin, I just read the instructions that came with it. First you have to zero it out (so it balances when empty).

Then mark for the mass I want, and add stuff till it balances again.

BFLR

Right!

Hey Iamaru is this the scale you have?

It says it’s a milligram scale, but it doesn’t say it will go down to 500mg. I just want a ****ing scale that you put the ALCAR on it till it reads 500mg then add 20mg of the Ornithine. Will this work?

I know, I’m an idiot.

Kevin

kfarrelldba,

Mine has a different brand name on it but that is the exact same scale. It’s range in grams is 10g x 0.001g, check the link you posted as it does list this information just above the “available options” box at the bottom of the page. 0.001g = 1mg so you are good to go with that scale.

I will be making the stuff for other people as well so I am using 500mg ALCAR capsules and adding Ornithine to the capsules. I took a capsule top, a small metal fragment to anchor the bottom, and some plastic dip and made a tiny stand to hold up an open ALCAR capsule on the scale.

For solo use you can just weigh both powders into a little disposable paper cup right on the scale. I just got back from river rafting a re-packing my own pills allowed me to take some of this stuff with for easy use.

Keep us up to date. The more guys we have doing this the better.