Fountain of Youth

motivated

I just copied sparkyx because I liked the way it sounds :) I wish I could actually stay home and just dial in a workout.

Does this stuff taste as vial as L-arginine? I am getting ready to order and if the taste isn’t to bad won’t mess with capsules at all. Just take the mix sublingually or mixed with ward water.

Could some of you guys also take a look at your containers and see how long of a shelf life this stuff has before it hits the experation date?

Thanks guys.

motivated,

Dialing in my workout is very much like adjusting a carburator, for those old enough to have done it.

In a carburator, you have a fuel mixture adjustment, and a air mixture adjustment. Once you get it just right, you get your max power. If you then add more fuel or air…power drops.

If I get my workout just right, not too much, not too little…I see big gains. I will go up on all my lifts 5-20 lbs every time. I also start to put on size and lose fat.

When I have it just right, “dialed in” its almost like I’m on steroids. Right now its fairly dialed in. I believe the ALCAR is giving me a wider recovery range which makes it easier to “dial it in”.

iamaru,

It is very sour tasting, tastes like crap…but so what? I dump the powder in my mouth, then quickly wash it down.

As far as shelf life, I don’t know but I suggest just ordering one bottle of each, that will last about 200 days.

Dino, thanks for the encouragement, glad to hear that the hair is hanging in there this time!

Sparkyx

Iamaru: Better, I think. ALCAR/ornithine reminds me of ascorbic acid, which I don’t mind taking.

Sparkyx: Nice work! Reminds me, I was going to get in shape again…

So I have tried the ACLAR/ornithine (FOY) formula for five days, taken 3+ hours after my last meal, just before going to bed.

1) I did not notice any sweating.

2) I do have decent wood: I can jelq more often, though I’m not sure that is the best thing for my unit, as I suspect he is a less-is-more kind of guy. The woody is about the same as from L-arginine.

3) When I wake up in the morning, my eyes and mouth are less dry. In fact, I even have some sleep (yellow gunk) in my eyes, just like when I was younger.

4) Slightly more mental energy, perhaps… it’s difficult to tell.

5) My appetite is somewhat higher.

I’m on the watch-out for faster gains, smoother skin, and, should I start training again, rapidity in getting into shape.

I stopped taking L-arginine, which I had used for about one week. (I just didn’t want to take too much new stuff at once, first because it may overwhelm my body, second because it’s difficult to tease apart what causes what).

That’s my report. Hopefully I’ll have interesting observations 30 days into this.

Anyone else trying this FOY formula: please share your observations, however minute.

Lars,

Are you currently working out? Do you plan to if you aren’t.

I really believe that some short, intense workouts will magnify the effects of the ALCAR formula.

If you can’t get to a gym, body wt exercises to failure with hill sprints thrown in 2X a week would work really well!

Thanks Sparky and Dino.

By the way, I just started the ALCAR formula last night. My sleep might have been a bit better, but I don’t typically have a problem in that department. I may have woke a bit more alert. But again, too slight of a difference to be sure. But hey, it was the first night. I’ll keep everyone posted.

The little milligram scale I bought works pretty well. But 0.025 g of L-Ornithine is a really small amount! It’s a bit tricky to get it spot on.

motivated,

If you bought the little scale I recommended, it isn’t accurate enough for that measurement.

Do a larger scale mixture like 10X or 100X, then it is fine!

I mixed a whole bottle of ALCAR with…I forget, something like 6 grams of Ornithine.

Put all together in a larger container and shake it good…every time I use it.

I think its way too much work to MAKE the mixture each time, better to make a batch and then measure out your 530 mg each time.

Sparkyx,

I’m not certain which scale you recommended. I bought this milligram scale from Ebay. Since it’s made for weighing diamonds, etc., the weighing platform is small. But given the amount of L-Ornithine used, it’s plenty big. It’s just very hard to manipulate such small quantities of that stuff. And it tends to fly all over the place! But it is very easy to use. I weigh out the 25 mg L-Ornithine, mix it with some water, and drink it. Then I swallow a 500 mg ALCAR tablet. Done!

Wow…nice!!!

This is the one I’m talking about, about $9.00 from BAC. I think it goes up to 5-6 grams. Its just not accurate down to 25 mg.

What you should do is get a little container to put your Ornithine in, gets its weight and just subtract it from the total. So lets say it weighs one gram, so just make the total 1.25 grams. It should make it less messy.

sparkyx

That is fine for the ALCAR but 100 grams of L-Ornithine is enough for 4,000 days, give or take. At $11.50 for the L-Ornithine it really doesn’t matter, I am just oddly obsesive about things.

sparkyx and larslaukanen, thanks for responding on the taste thing. I do intend to just toss the stuff in my mouth and chase with water. Anyone that has used L-arginine for a length of time can choke down most anything!

I am going to bite the bullet and set up a pay pall account. I will update all of you in a few weeks after I have all of my new toys.

iamaru,

Good point on the ornithine my obsessive friend!

I should probably try to put it in a zip lock bag and get all the air out. If I could find one of those things that pull out the moisture, I’d toss that in too!

Sparkyx

I use the Calibron X from BAC. It is very accurate (I’ll have to look at it again when I get home to see just how small the increments are that it can do).

I upped my L-Ornithine to 30mg in the mix. I definitely had good sleep and plenty of vivid dreams. Can’t see the wood was all that great, but I did have some great “output” when playing this morning, even after unloading yesterday. Usually it takes me several days to build up the amount that I managed to produce.

BFLR

I do something similar to this. Fortunately, the scale has a “TARE” function, which allows you to put something on the scale, for example a small container, and then recalibrate it to zero. I use a paper cup. I recalibrate the scale to zero, add the L-Ornithine, and then add water and drink. It’s very simple. But the L-Ornithine is extremely light, and the quantities are small. So it’s a bit tricky to get it spot on. And you have to hold your breath while measuring, otherwise the scale continues to fluctuate between, say, 0.021 g and 0.029 g. I feel like the mad scientist!

Does anyone know where the twinlab wine extract is avail? or a cheap working substitute?