Liquid Tadalafil from kitsnmore

Panos: I can only pray that when I’m 75 I’ll be able to do the things your doing!! Keep up the great work!!

A hereditary condition that runs in my fathers side of the family has zapped me. CHF “congestive heart failure”. I have the all too familiar symptoms. Lower leg/ankle swelling, also around the middle, weight gain, abdominal swelling, shortness of breath, etc.

Exercise is a major factor in my staying well, medications “Norvasc, Lasix,…inceasing circulation,etc.

Thanks avocet8:

I think I owe my REM erections to you, buddy. No I don’t think, but know I owe it all to you and your tread about ED and Pumping. I hope others with ED problems will read your thread and heed your advice. It works! It’s working for me and I would imagine it would for others also. No harm in trying!

So, avocet8, on behalf of all of those who have had good results because of you, I thank you.

Now the Tadalafil is another matter. Hope reigns eternal!

Thanks, my friend.
My outside may give my age away, but I will never be older, inside, than 18. It’s such a good age, why be older?

My mother’s side has a long history of CHF and it is one of the things I have to always think about. I had a HA (I don’t even like to spell it out) in 1999, but all seems better now, praise God. My father’s side of the family live to 100+ (my grandmother died only 3 days before her 105th and her father outlived his wives and married his 4th wife at 102), so I hope I have inherited something from that side.

Keep doing what you need to do to stay healthy. May you have many, many, happy and healthy years and live to be 100+!

What do you think about my 1ml dose on Monday night?

Are we talking about liquid C here?

I don’t see any reason why you would be working your way up to the full 1 ml dose, unless you have medical concerns having to do with drops in blood pressure.

Are you on other meds, or what?

Your fitness efforts are very encouraging. For fat burning and dropping weight there is really no better exercise than walking. If you do an hour or more a day your body will prioritize fat burning. Your waistline will thank you.

I would also recommend working with a trainer to do some more intense cardio for 20 minutes every other day (that you should start slow and work up to higher intensity). Alternate that with some light lifting on the alternate days and your body will undergo a major transformation very quickly.

You can and should walk everyday though. That just burns the fat.

avocet’s recommendations are the way for you to go regarding pumping. It’s good to hear you’re following his advice. He’s the man.

Keep up the good work.

Yes, liquid Tadalafil (Cialis). I have never taken any of these ED medicines and was very hesitant at first. Cialis ads state that if you have an erection of over 4 hours you should immediately see your physician. So, I had a picture of getting a permanent hard-on, or something worst. But, my TP friends soothed my worries and so I started taking it. They suggested that I start with a low dosage. (See previous posts in this thread about this)
Hopefully it will start working before long. Tomorrow I will try 1ml.

I really don’t have any medical concerns other than those which are age related and expected, and at present am not taking any medication, just vitamins and supplements. I see my doctor quarterly and when he takes my blood pressure it has been a little higher than normal, but nothing to worry about. Since I had a mild heart attack in 1999, if it were not, I am sure I would know about it and he would have taken action.

I try to exercise as much as possible, but I am limited by my arthritis (pelvis, lower back, knees, and hands). I can’t get over-heated or my back and pelvis start acting up. My hands will not allow me to do anything other than very light weightlifting (limited to dumb bells) since I can’t get good grips with both hands. Most of my exercise is walking, treadmill, and water exercises in the pool. Plus I live in a ca. 1846 brownstone building on the fifth floor, a walkup! :) Believe me, I get a lot of exercise daily!

Yes, avocet is indeed the man and I cannot thank him enough.

Thank you, Mr. Happy, for your words of encouragement. And, stop that smoking!

Panos

I don’t smoke.

Well…a very little weed on special occasions. And even then I’m a lightweight. Real pot-smokers laugh at me.

Any of those erection meds only aid in erections. The main health risk is the drop in blood pressure. Even the 1ml dose of Liquid C (equivalent to a 30 mg dose of Cialis) is within most people’s safety threshold.

As far as getting a four hour hard-on, I think you would have to have a unique sensitivity to the drug or drink the whole bottle for that to happen. Though it’s not wrong to be cautious, that warning is mainly to alert idiots who abuse the drug that it’s not good to have an erection that won’t go away. I think you’re ahead of the game on that one; you have common sense.

With any of those meds you still need some external stimulus to get erect. Have you tried Max-O-Derm? It’s a cream sold over the counter in Eckerd, CVS, and Rite Aid. It promises bigger and harder erections, and that it won’t deliver on, but it might make you more responsive to stimulation. It’s essentially a trans-dermal Arginine formula and it can definitely speed arousal along. It’s a little pricey (like $29.00 a tube) but you only need a quarter sized dab of it.

It might be worth a shot. That with the liquid C could do the trick. Just to get the erection ball rolling.

Better living through chemistry. :)

Hi Happy,

I had an espresso after dinner which I know I should never do after 3PM. But, it did taste so good! Now I’m paying for it and can’t sleep, so here I am at the computer.

I guess it’s not you since you aren’t answering about the “smoking pic.” :bigwink: I know all about weed, I’m of the Woodstock generation! Boy, THAT 1969 weekend was s-o-o-o-ome party, I tell you not!

I saw a package of Max-O-Derm at Rite Aid the other day, scoffed at the promise it made, gagged at the price on the sticker, and put it back on the shelf. I thought, at the time, that I knew my imagination was 1000% better and it was free! The price on the box was $49.99! I will go back and see if there is a cheaper one available, or who knows, maybe there is a generic one on the market. Thanks for the suggestion.

By the way, I’m already taking 500mg L-Arginine daily.

I don’t think I have an arousal problem since it can be easily and quickly aroused, it just doesn’t finish it’s job and get fully erect anymore. Now days it’s only a 60-70% boner. Until a year ago, I was still obtaining good and rock-hard erections, but after my accident, the operations, the medications, etc. this mild ED appeared. I am very confident in my belief that everything will eventually return to normal, so I’m not really worried. I’m just a bit impatient during the waiting period and am trying to help it return a bit faster.

Chao

Morning Panos,

I don’t want to get you started on all sorts of drugs, but do you or have you considered taking glucosamine/chondroiten for your arthritis? I started taking it a couple of years ago when my right hip joint was bothering me so bad I was starting to explore hip replacement. It took a couple of months to really kick in, but it totally solved my hip joint pain. Just thought I would mention it.

Thanks gprent:

In late 1997 my doctor prescribed Vioxx for my osteo and rheumatoid arthritis. Then in late 1998, I was hospitalized due to my arthritic pelvis and the hospital and my doctor changed me from Vioxx to Celebrex. In early 1999, I had a mild (thankfully) heart attack and the hospital took me off of Celebrex. Later we learned that Vioxx, and possibly Celebrex could cause heart attacks, but in my case we will never know. Thereafter I was prescribed 1 tablet of Glucosamine (500mg) Chondroitin (400mg) taken 3 times a day plus a baby aspirin daily. If needed, I could in addition take up to 2 Aleve tablets a day. I truly believe that the Glucosamine/Chondroitin is the only reason that I am able to be as active as I am!

After my accident and eye operations, and problems with hemorrhaging, I was taken off all aspirin, including Aleve, and so now I only take Tylenol when needed. I still take the Glucosamine-Chondroitin. I’d almost kill if anyone tried to take that away from me!

Well, at 4:30pm I will take my 1ml of Tadalafil. Keep your fingers crossed that it works this time.:)

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My uncle went and brought back pictures when I was a kid. My parents were thinking about our going, but decided against because the ticket price was so exorbitant for the time (I think it was like $8.00 - but then gas was 28¢ a gallon. Ah, the glorious ’60s). Who knew that a deluge of people would arrive and suddenly they would take all comers for free?!

I try not to resent my folks too much for missing out on the event.

That is totally outrageous. It’s outrageous enough at $29.99. I don’t know where the closest Eckerd is to Chelsea, but I’m fairly certain it should be about $30 bucks and no more.

A few thoughts: First, that’s actually a modest dose. I take 3000mg three times daily. For you that may be excessive, but it’s certainly tolerable at much higher levels than you are taking. Be advised, if you do take 3000mg or more you need to drink a lot of water. Also, when consuming it in pill form it’s best to take on an empty stomach. It’s also easier for you body to process and make use of Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate, rather than L-Arginine itself. This is found in supplements like NoX 3000 , which are better than the drugstore variety. These type of products are geared for weight lifters. You may not want or need to take the recommended doses.

Secondly, Max-O-Derm delivers it’s content transdermally so it has a more immediate effect. The amount of Arginine contained in the quarter sized dollop they recommend (which, by the way, is a generous amount. When I was experimenting with this I used less and it worked well. I think they want you to use more and buy more product :leftie: ) is marginal compared to the 9000mg of NoX 3000 I was taking daily. I noticed no real side effects, your mileage may vary.

By ‘arousal’ I don’t mean feeling horny, I mean it more in the physiological sense in terms of the erectile arousal itself. I may not be using the term properly.

Staying positive is key to full recuperation. My hat is off to you sir.

As we say in Italian:

Ciao

We didn’t pay anything to get in, we just followed the rush, which was like a tidal wave, and in we went. Truthfully, the entire weekend was an exciting psychedelic haze of strung together vignettes of music, weed, rain and mud, more weed, lack of toilets, trash (lots of trash), sex, euphoria, weed and more sex, nagging hunger and thirst, and mainly more sex! Music and free love were the watchwords of the weekend. Ravi Shankar, Jimi Hendrix, Joan Baez, Arlo Guthrie, Janice Joplin (a neighbor of mine),Santana, Grateful Dead, et al., but it’s a wonder that we actually heard any of the music! What we all actually remembered were really "group memories", memories that were pieced together afterwards by members of our group. Not very reliable, but memories that I still have to this day. I have no recollection of returning home, who drove, or how we did it, but I’m here so I guess that is the important thing. It seems to me the tickets had been on sale for about $10, and none of us had $10 at the time, but we went anyway. We just lucked out that we got in free due to the crush of the crowds, which had not been expected. One of my friends in the group, never returned home with us (in our VW van) and he has not been seen since. He left the group and said he would be back soon, but just walked away into….? We didn’t take cameras, never even thought to do so, therefore no photos exist of our group and the weekend. A real shame! I do have a fringed and beaded leather vest that I wore that weekend. A treasure!

Are you saying that you take 3000mg of L-Arginine 3 x a day? Mine I get from Puritan’s Pride. I also have been taking it after eating as it instructs. It’s better on an empty stomach?

After the rain stops, I will go check on the Max-O-Derm. Again, thanks.

By arousal, do you mean getting turned on? I sort of think it is the same thing for me. My mind can do magical things and I can get turned on easily and arousal follows. But, at present, not a full arousal as I would like.

Sorry, I have always typed Chao for Ciao. All of my Italian friends are always on me for the mistake. For some reason my brain just can’t register the correct spelling.

Somehow the postings for this thread have gotten off the subject of Tadalafil. Sorry folks!

Awesome.

I’ve worked for Arlo, and Santana. Local crew support, nothing glamorous, but I did meet them.

Yes, that is what I’m saying, except technically it’s Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate and not L-Arginine. When you take this much you really have to drink a lot of water. I only do this when I’m doing my 6 day a week workout regimen. Right now I’m on an extended break after an injury, but I’m planning on resuming my gym schedule soon.

When I’m not working out I take it on an as needed basis.

Aminos are better absorbed on an empty stomach. There’s no harm in taking them after eating, you just sacrifice some of the benefits of taking them in the first place.

Those drugstore brands are L-Arginine and not Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate. The latter the body absorbs better.

I was meaning ‘arousal’ in terms of the clinical sense of erectile response (the erection itself), rather than the psychological or emotional aspects of the same.

I suspect this Italian friend may make the difference. I can be tenacious in my role of grammar and spelling Nazi. Chao is Chinese and it means something else.

Good point.

I may just order from kitsnmore again. I’ve been out of the stuff for several months, but I do like it. :)

I was thinking about ordering the powders, but I’m not sure if the mad scientist in me has enough energy.

I’m going to think about it. Anyone else care to join in about taladafil, now that we’ve gotten back on track?

Awesome.

I’ve worked for Arlo, and Santana. Local crew support, nothing glamorous, but I did meet them.

Yes, that is what I’m saying, except technically it’s Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate and not L-Arginine. When you take this much you really have to drink a lot of water. I only do this when I’m doing my 6 day a week workout regimen. Right now I’m on an extended break after an injury, but I’m planning on resuming my gym schedule soon.

When I’m not working out I take it on an as needed basis.

Aminos are better absorbed on an empty stomach. There’s no harm in taking them after eating, you just sacrifice some of the benefits of taking them in the first place.

Those drugstore brands are L-Arginine and not Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate. The latter the body absorbs better.

I was meaning ‘arousal’ in terms of the clinical sense of erectile response (the erection itself), rather than the psychological or emotional aspects of the same.

I suspect this Italian friend may make the difference. I can be tenacious in my role of grammar and spelling Nazi. Chao is Chinese and it means something else.

Good point.

I may just order from kitsnmore again. I’ve been out of the stuff for several months, but I do like it. :)

I was thinking about ordering the powders, but I’m not sure if the mad scientist in me has enough energy. I’m just not certain about the trouble it would take. I guess I’m just a lazy consumer… I’m going to think about it.

Anyone else care to join in about tadalafil, now that we’ve gotten back on track?

I was wondering if the next time I order tadalafil if I will order from kitsnmore or get more of the powder from elitenetpharmacy???
I like the fast delivery from kits and the price is fairly good. The powder! I got the 2grams “$35.00”, divided it and added 500mg to 16ml of PGA/Everclear and 4ml of supersolvent “disstilled water” in an old kitsnmore 20ml vial. 20ml-25mg liq c. The 2grams will yield between 66-80 doses. The powder is cheaper.
I’ve noticed no difference in effect from the kits liq and the elitenet powder.

The powder is easy enough to work with I guess. It has the same texture as corn starch. Wouldn’t want to make caps with it unless I had a capping thingy.
Has anyone else here dealt with the powder ??

PS: I remember woodstock well…couln’t make it…was a bit young to hit the road from down in Florida. But I did drop lsd on my 16th birthday!!! Things were never quite the same after that!!

This I get.

This I don’t.

If you’re mixing it the same way shouldn’t your dose numbers be within 1 or 2 - maybe 5 at most? 14 seems like a hell of a variation.

Or are you experimenting with intensity of mg per dose?

Please advise.