Female curiosity

You “amening” the cretin remark lasting? ;)

I have to disagree with you too Ramrod. It strikes me that Zaneblue knows a hell of a lot about men and men’s sexuality. Really, you cannot know much about either men’s sexuality or women’s sexuality without knowing a fair amount about the other. They go together, after all (unless of course you’re homosexual, but then other relational knowledge is involved).

What you say about men and their attitude toward women and sex is, I agree, largely true. But all this reveals is that most men are base and ignorant. The same is probably true about most women. So the “many-too-many” men and women out there should get along fine. That’s good. But I’ve never been interested in what the majority think or do. “Rare things are only for the rare,” as Nietzsche said.

I know that I am in the minority among men on this issue, but, as per above, I consider this a good thing. I like being different, above the crowd, that sort of thing. In my opinion, and based on my experience, not only is sexual energy (or “chi”) an important component to a rewarding and exceptional sex life, it is the most important factor. For me, sex has always been a metaphysical experience first and a physical experience only in relation to or as directed toward this metaphysical dimension.

The attitude you propound can be called the “reproductive urge”: “insert penis” and blow “a nut with as little effort as possible.” You may not be aware of it, but the biological mandate to reproduce is what causes you to think this way. There is nothing wrong with this thinking; it gets the reproductive job done. In calling it “base,” I don’t mean to suggest that it is bad. It just isn’t very exciting or deep. There is also a transformative attitude toward sex, which is sometimes referred to as “spiritual” or “mystical” or “transcendental” sex and sexuality. Here one transforms and “lifts up” the base reproductive urge. The goal here is to focus and intensify the sexual energy (which doesn’t mean mere horniness) and to use this force to transform your state of awareness. But of course, one has to be interested in this kind of transformation and exploration. Many are not.

Having said that, it’s also true that sometimes you just want to screw!

I agree with you about the “buzz word” phenomenon, which is why I often put these key terms (“energy,” “spirituality,” etc.) in scare quotes. Still, they serve their purpose; we cannot do without them.

However, I suspect that it is not the words that raise little hairs on the back of your neck but the ideas being put forward by them. You want to “counter” these ideas with your “over-simplified” gospel, which is indeed over simplified. Okay, I won’t take you literally. I certainly won’t take you seriously. And I won’t try to enlighten you. To repeat Nietzsche’s comment: “Rare things are only for the rare.”

Yeah. That was me (actually, “That was I” is the correct way of saying it, but I didn’t want to piss you off more :D ).

Perhaps I drew my conclusion too brusquely. I just think that guys who don’t want to take time pleasing their women or exchanging pleasures with their women probably don’t like being with their women in the first place.

And, as you said, you’d rather watch the Red Sox. Nothing wrong with that. To each his own. I apologize if I offended. But, while you’re off watching the Red Sox, I’m going to work on my 20-minute orgasm, or, better yet, my wife’s. :rear:

Zaneblue,

Thanks. This has been a great thread. I’m learning a lot from it. I think that what you are doing for women is important. Clearly, it has important consequences for men too, so we are interested. I also hope that you’ll stick around this forum. And please let us know of upcoming articles of yours, how your university study is going, etc. We like information here—please keep it coming.

You lamented the fact that there isn’t a forum like this available for women. It strikes me that you’d be a natural for operating one. But as you say, women are probably less interested in the issues you are discussing than men are in having bigger dicks.

On the subject of forums, what are the discussion forums like at tantra.com, as opposed to the rest of the information available there? Do you know of any other good forums on Tantra?

You also said that word is getting out about PE because of this website. Could you elaborate on this? I’d be curious to know more about how what we are doing here is leaking out into the general public, if in fact it is.

The silly thing is you are already giving women chi energy without even knowing it. Men do it instinctively, through the second chakra—their nuts. When you ejaculate with a woman you are giving her your chi energy. Women give chi energy back to the man through the fourth chakra, the heart. Now that doesn’t come instinctively—need kundalini rising for that one. If you are just looking to bust a nut without making a connection you won’t get any sexual energy back. Which is perfectly delicious to some women :flame:

If you have kundalini rising, you can also give energy to a woman through your sixth chakra, the third eye. You can practice this technique by trying something called amygdala popping.

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But if you want to go on giving us your chi without wanting anything back, you go right ahead. :) I call that selfless.

Modesto, you’re on fire today my friend!…nothin’ better than working on mrs. x’s orgasms :D . For the rest of the day, I officially agree with everything Modesto says.

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Geez Rodney, can you give me your interpretation of what zane just said. That chi, kundalini crap makes the hairs on my neck stand up too. I’m serious here. Kundalini should be a fucking sausage.

Motivated I’m lame, I know, but I don’t belong to tantra.com It’s a paysite. I used to.

Thank you for the encouragement, I appreciate it. Perhaps the men here would encourage their partners to try things—oftentimes it’s men who have to take the lead with sexual matters. I’m happy to answer any questions women might have—also handy with general female sexual dysfunction issues.

This place is now generally known. Various places I go, I used to be the one having to bring this website up when PE was mentioned. Now men are starting to become aware that jelquing actually does work and they mention this website.

It’s just a vocabulary. Once you know what the terms refer to, all mystery is gone.

Mind you, I know very little about Tantra. However, I am interested in the philosophical aspects of it. In its inception, Tantra was a philosophical system: Sex was a mere means to enlightenment and liberation. Now in the West, Tantra has become more of a technique for sexual fulfillment.

Here is a really great book on the subject: The Yoga of Power: Tantra, Shakti, and the Secret Way, by Julius Evola. This is not a manual of Tantric sex techniques and positions, and it’s not your typical New Age mumbo-jumbo on the subject. It’s just a really great read on what some cultures and people have done to take sex beyond the routine practice of it. Highly recommended.

You’ve got a point. I guess I’ll never understand women. They are illogical creatures, to say the least.

Doesn’t it require a willing partner? Someone who will travel with you on this road to “enlightenment” and the Grand Palace of the Kundalini?

And what the hell were these monks/mystical types doing playing around with there organs anyway? :)

That’s very interesting. How well known do you think PE is becoming among the general public? How much interest do you think men (and women) are showing in it? One of the things we debate here from time to time is PE going “mainstream”—both whether this is likely ever to happen and whether it would be a good thing. I guess I feel a bit about PE the way you do about female sexual issues.

Yes boss I was. I have to say I like the way he’s preaching the message.

Isn’t all of this basically the difference between making love and fucking? I agree that when making love there is alot more to it than sexual, a spiritial type connection also. Honestly, I don’t think my life is much different than most. Work too much, play too little, family obligations, run here and there and so when you get the opportunity to just bust a nut, well, that works just fine also. I mean, if you are going to be exchanging all of this energy, you better have some on hand, and at times, the batteries are just dead.

Zane,

I like alot of what you post but don’t agree with this “But if you want to go on giving us your chi without wanting anything back, you go right ahead. I call that selfless.” If the woman is pleased and I am pleased even tho it is a quickie, I would definitely not call it selfless. I call it a great way to maintain a little sanity in an insane world.

They were having tantric orgasms.

Tantric ability is generally developed by oneself. A couple can work on developing their own tantric ability at the same time and share the energy, and they can help each other along, but it’s similar to developing orgasmic ability. Tantric energy exchange at it’s fullest flower does need two adept and willing partners to pass the energy back and forth in a figure 8 or have mutual crown chakra orgasms. But on a basic level, a woman adept at tantra can certainly extract the chi energy enthusiastically and willingly offered by men wanting to bust a nut in her pussy. And she can also give tantric energy from chest to chest contact if a man’s heart is open to it, without the man knowing, or knowing anything about kundalini or whatever.

This guy is pretty flakey, but what tantric teacher isn’t? He’s got some good points, and the website isn’t selling anything