Female curiosity

It is a terrible reality……size in most cases does not matter (unless you have no size). But for guys the penis size does matter, there is a lot of “horse envy” in this forum.

What’s “lightning’s place”?

Oops!! I got it but I thought maybe there was a female counterpart to this forum after all. That would be nice.

Alright, I got to jump into the fray here. Can’t have my wife(Tsugawildflower) posting more that me, now can we dear. Here I am posting to my wife while she is right here next to me on her own computer on this same thread. Has this ever happened on Thunders before?

First, Zaneblue, I would like to thank you very much for posting here. What you have to say is of great value and I benefit from it directly. Think how I feel that my wife can squeeze a gynaflex #5 part way on the first try out of the box! She’s 46, had two kids and almost a virgin level? wow!
What a lucky dog I am. Wooff, Wooff.

What I hear about what you are saying is “don’t forget the physiological part of female sexuality”. I think women tend to have focused on the emotional feeling level and for the most part ignored the physiological aspect of sexuality. I gather this is what you mean by women being behind men in this aspect of sexuality. Obviously fulfilling, pleasurable, satisfying sex is a combination of the physical and emotional. Both have to be nurtured. Clearly us men tend to put more focus on the physiological part of the equation, hence we are all here in droves at Thunders. From what I understand you are stronger in the physiological part of sexuality while trying to heal the emotional part. In this way I can see why a place like Thunders has drawn you. I think the efforts you are making to bring more of a balance to female sexuality is of great value. Keep it up. I like what you said about women taking more responsibility in this area of sexuality.

Both of us practice the key sound and I think you are right on track about this technique being useful for the emotional healing. I have observed it to have great emotional healing capacity, much has opened for my wife since we both began practicing it, and me as well. I think the Key Sound is good on the physiological side as well but not in the same way as physical exercises such as the Gynaflex and exercises on this site.

Now, Tsugawildflower dear, I’m going to disagree with you on the size doesn’t matter thing, at least to some degree. Uh oh, is this the beginning of an on line marital spat? First for all, for the men that might be reading this I am 7.25BPEL x 5.15EG and I know I reach your culdesac. Even before I started PEing I was 6.5BPEL. According to what Zane said this is completely within the range of full satisfaction for a woman. So is it that size doesn’t matter or because I am in the range that counts, that you say it doesn’t matter? Now lets add the mix that you have worked to have almost virgin like tone, which in a reverse sort of way, adds to my size. Does this mean I’m the equivalent of 6.5 to 7EG? If we look at it this way, I say size does matter. Honey, I love meeting you in the middle on this one. I’ll work on the length and half the girth, you work on the other half of the girth.

Alright guys, maybe we can all kick back a bit and let our ladies increase our penis sizes for us. For every number gynaflex mastered, that adds an 1” to our girth. I suppose this won’t do much for us in the locker room though.

Thunder, thanks so much for bring back the spell checker. God knows I need it.

By the way, for those that dont know my avatar is Tsugawildflower, she said it was OK.

For me it depends. There’s a big difference in comparing vaginal to clitoral orgasms with me—one clitoral orgasm and I am most definitely done with those, unless a vibrator is involved. Vaginal orgasms it takes about the same amount of stimulation for each one, as opposed to clitoral where ensuing orgasms take much longer and more intense stimulation. As for capacity for vaginal orgasms, now that I think about it it depends on the kind. The lighter vaginal orgasms I have from simply flexing my capacity is basically endless—I could have a couple hundred in a row no problem. Are you able to orgasm during sex with you both remaining still, with you just flexing the muscles? Vaginal orgasms I have from from a hard pronging after fifteen or so I lose the sense of urgency. So I guess there is a limit to those. My preferred way of having sex is me on top with both relatively still, me just flexing my muscles and orgasming—most men can last a long time this way. And then the traditional doggy-style or whatever for the stronger vaginal orgasms at the end.

I’m wondering if you took the fish oil if your vaginal orgasm capacity would increase? I don’t honestly know. I know it helps women who are not vaginally orgasmic gain the ability.

Wow, Mr. Tsuga, with a wife who looks the way she does and can flex a #5 right out of the box, you just nod and say “Yes dear,” on the size argument :chuckle:

But aside from the penis size debate you are correct about the other things. It’s not that women are behind men when it comes to physiology, it’s that the medical establishment and society are. I am working very hard to change that.

You know I was thinking about Tsugawildflower’s comments on emotions. I am unusual, particularly in the fact that I take enough fish oil to grow gills. This ratchets up my dopamine level and makes sensual pleasure really great, especially orgasms. Most women could only get this high dopamine from strong feelings of love (although some BDSM practices trigger the same release). Not to take the romance out of love, but I think this might be the problem with the men I’ve been with, their reaction to me. I can have sex like a woman madly in love even on a one-night stand with perfect stranger—at least with basic vaginal orgasms. Can’t have tantric chakra orgasms with strangers though, even with high dopamine.

zane,

Don’t get me wrong here, I’m into supplements. I wouldn’t feel right if I didn’t bring this serious subject up after wondering about it.

Have you found it takes more and more fish oil to maintain your dopamine level? I’m wondering if depression could occur from a drop off. At least it’s a possibility(?) that one should be aware of so that offsets (natural or prescription) could be put in place if a tapering off occurs someday. What do you think?

I’ve only upped the fish oil dosage once in seven years, although at that time I did double it. Haven’t noticed a drop-off. I think because it’s simply correcting a nutritional balance, rather than a pharmaceutical or herbal, so the body doesn’t become acclimatized to the effect the way it does, for example, taking heroin.

That said, I am certain if I went off the fish oil I would eventually become seriously depressed, because serious depression is caused by omega-3 fatty acid deficiency (have many Medline studies showing this) and also because I have a history of serious depression—was hospitalized for suicidal depression in college. Have not been depressed on the fish oil, not even postpartum which is quite unusual for someone with my history, and is especially notable considering my experiences of the past few years.

There are some people (eg. Dr Sears at Zone Labs) who recommend 2.5-5g of EPA/DHA daily, so Zaneblues dosage doesn’t seem that far out as far as I can tell (though this is all quite new to me). I think the main difference between supplementing something like this compared to pharmaceuticals, is that the oils are a supplement source that the body can conditionally use, whereas most pharma (well, all of them that I know of) work by forcefully inhibiting a process.

As an example, say if you’re depressed, stressed or whatever, and levels of MAO’s increase, dopamine decreases. Diet isn’t so good (meaning a modern diet as opposed to one you’re genetically geared towards) and dopamine production is limited due to lack of nutritional building blocks, you go to a doc and he gives you an SSRI to encourage a puddle of seratonin to splash around in your head. This in turn pulls down dopamine and sex drive crashes, you still feel like shit, or if you’re lucky you just feel numb. Alternatively you might opt to avoid the SSRI’s and use an MAO-I. That’s a little smarter as it will slow the dopamine breakdown, but if there’s not a lot of domapine around in the first place (due to poor nutirition primarily, and external factors secondarily), then even the pharmaceutical route won’t be very effective. Your doc will cycle you through all manner of non specific and targeted inhibitors, the MAOI and SSRI’s are like the Twain, and never should meet. It’s like taking aromatiase inhibitors when testosterone is low. It kind of helps, but the effects are limited in scope since it’s treating a symptom, which is poor marksmanship.

My belief currently is that the supplementation is generally safe (with some very minor caveats), and that cessation would simply return your body to baseline. I can find no evidence that there would be any kind of adaptation over time, or bounce beyond starting point if supplementation is stopped. Of course, you can be sure that I will be searching deep and wide and tall in this area to fully absorb the current state of understanding out there. If anything surfaces then It’ll be posted here.

What is BDSM?

Please elaborate on what practices you are refering to.

Thanks

zaneblue
First I’d like to thank you for all the great info and for the fact that you’ve reawaken my interest in tantric sex. Haven’t really had the pleasure to try it out with a willing partner but that seems to have changed :)

I recently met a girl who is VERY interested in sex and I’m about to order a set of gyneflex for her. Is there a way to find out what flex strength would be appropriate? She’s 29 has never been able to orgasm vaginally, never had kids and she can squeeze a finger really hard with her vagina. Do you think it would be OK to go for the firm flex strength? Don’t want to end up buying something I (she) don’t need like TsugaWildflower :)

I’ve been multi-orgasmic for a while but never tried to max it (going on for a very long time without ejaculating). Maybe now that you mentioned this might be a key to start the tantric energy flow, I will :)

Take care!
DG

Proceed with caution. The Gyneflex is not a gift to give a girl you recently met, unless she herself expresses enthusiastic interest when the topic comes up in general conversation. Many women can take it to mean “Your pussy’s too loose.” But she certainly would be at the #5 & #6 level.

Also don’t pressure her too much on the tantra. Getting good tone alone will not necessarily guarantee the ability to have vaginal orgasms. A woman also needs good dopamine levels and robust free testosterone (although if she’s really into sex, she probably already has robust free testosterone). It took me about six months to go from having the ability to have vaginal orgasms to go to the ability to have easy spontaneous orgasms, and about a year after that, having lots of vaginal orgasms every day before my kundalini started rising.

Have fun! And remember don’t get too weird with the tantric withholding ejaculation thing. You need to ejaculate at least once every two weeks, better once a week for prostate health. And it’s good to give that energy to your partner. We like it!

Oooh shiver! Now that’s what I like! Carry on, let me know if you find anything interesting. From what I’ve found it’s a lot like scurvy. Treating the symptoms of scurvy with pharmaceuticals requires ever increasing dosages because the underlying problem isn’t cured and the body requires more and more of the same drug to get the same effect. But taking Vitamin C will completely stop it, without a need for increased Vitamin C over time to avoid it.

BDSM is bondage/discipline dominance/submission and sado-masochism. I was referring in particular to the use of light pain over prolonged periods—will raise dopamine. That’s why women like to be spanked.

Fascinating!

Does prozac increase dopamine?

Does decreased dopamine contribute to compulsive disorders, and depresssion?