Implants for ED

Hey All, long time no see, I know … … .

Been kinda laying low for quite some time, and have to say getting a little depressed at my ED.

I’m an otherwise healthy 64 year old non-smoker, who has never been overweight, and I do weights at the gym 4-5 days a week, including sit-ups, healthy diet, lean meat, crisp veg by the ton, never eat desert. I do have wine, but only with meals… … .

I did have a prostate rebore in 2012, but that didn’t cause any marked change. No other issues.

I never really could go for hours, and even in my 20’s always needed a fair amount of stimulation to keep it hard.

But over the last 15 years, it’s been all downhill.

Viagra worked for a while, and then CIalis, And my 9.25 BP of those old pics on this site is now more like 8.5. A big dick and a big ( in my case definitely flaccid) bulge in the pants is academic if you can’t follow through.

For about the last ten years I’ve been doing Caverject, then Trimix at ever increasing amounts, and now there has to be so much prostaglandin PGE1 in the QUAD mix, and the dose so large that it just causes pain… … I have had a few priapisms that needed Emergency Room intervention, but none of those for at least 3 years.

My dick is being looked after by a GP/ Specialist in Men’s Health who has made this his life’s work. It isn’t a nominated specialist area in Australia per se, but he is said to have all the US qualifications, and is well regarded in the profession. Dicks are (mostly) only for peeing out of, apparently.

I’m considering surgery for implant of the internal saline pump / replacement inflatable corpera cavernosa type that gets excellent write-ups. My female GP knows the specialist urologist, who does this in Sydney, and has unreservedly given me a referral for an appointment to see the him mid June. I’m seeing the dick doctor in just a few days. He had one of the implants on his desk, one time when I was there. I was horrified then.

I’ve done a search here, and it seems the only stuff on implants is for women’s breasts. I was sure you blokes would be way ahead of me in the dick department.

Has anyone any experience with what I’m talking about… … . I’m sure the erudite Mr Avocet has at least runs across the idea… … … .

Erection on demand, hard as a rock, rugged and ideal for the rough stuff men get up to… . So I read…

Rob

BTW, I don’t get night time or morning wood, and masturbation, even with porn has lost its charm, sans erection.

Have they found the cause of your ED? Sounds like there was a decline over the years. Wondering if the root cause has been determined.

Thanks Titleist.

No, the root cause has not been determined. I had a “veinous leakage” test in which an artificial erection was given me via injection, and it went down within a few minutes. The conclusion was inconclusive, and I was told I may or may not have veinous leakage, the black humour of which seemed to be lost on everyone but me.

My decline started to happen subsequent to my PE growth stage, so I always associated the two, and as a general “coming out” , which I haven’t owned up to here, was one of the reasons I stayed away for this site, apart from not getting subsequent gains past my 2 inches, achieved in the first roughly 7 months of 2001.

Out at lunch, (isn’t retirement grand) I ran across an old friend, one who mother nature blessed with a natural 9 x 6, but who has had ED since hiss 30’s, and uses Prostaglandin, which still works.

He used to be a nurse administrator at our local teaching hospital, also one of the largest in Sydney (LOL) and knows the specialists, but more importantly knows a guy who has had the implant, and he says he’ll organise a meeting for me with the man with the bionic dick very soon.

Anecdotally he confided that the biopic dick’s owner says it is so successful, that he goes for hours and gets tired. He tells his sex partners to ” I’m going to sleep now, pleaselet it down when you have got your rocks off on it, and turn out the lights”…

” First world problems” indeed… … ..

I have severe Diabetic induced ED. I have read many positive reports on implants. However, when Viagra started to fail, I started using a VED - a specially designed penis pump that let’s you pump up an erection and slide on a tight tension band to retain the engorgement. Unfortunately, you need to release the constriction every 20 minutes. I also started using Trimix (includes prostaglandin plus Phentolamine - alpha blocker and Papaverine- a vaodiolater.). The Trimix provides a hard 1.5 hour erection even after ejaculating. I am reserving the implant as a last resort. Franktalk.org has lots of information on all of the above.

Thanks dtwarren.

Yes, I have exhausted Trimix, and it’s now Quadmix, and I’ve exhausted that option. Some detail of this , and the pain from the PGE1 component is in my first post above.

I have a vacuum pump, and I do pump and slip on a ring, or tie it quite tightly with elastic before releasing the vacuum. but it’s a poor quality erection that subsides within minutes.

Will you tell us more about why believe this is PE related? I’ll take a link if you have already.

Thank you.

I use an Osbon tension band which maintains a hard erection until removed.

Erecaid Tension Band

I also recommend the ED site franktalk.org; they have a pretty good implant sub forum there. The guys there seem damn happy w their implants are are quite willing to help out

Low hanging fruit, Only the timing. I never did have erections of steel, and while I didn’t have problems during the time when I was actually growing, perhaps it was just a guilty conscience.

Thanks dtwarren and sta-kool, I will have a look… … … … .

I reckon that at an otherwise healthy, medium built and not too shabby looking 64, I just want a 8.5 - 9 inch cock that works. First world solution, YOU BET… ..

Oh I totally get that. Frustrating to have a high libido and an erection that’s unreliable. Happily doing better here than I was a year or so more, but just about drives you crazy,

Just for fun, I pumped my dick for 50 minutes before my wife woke up. When she did, I used my VED to generate an erection and constricted it with my Osbon. After pleasuring my wife I decided to measure the girth and came up with 5.9 inches.

Tomorrow, I will use Trimix and when finished I will ask my wife which erection she prefers.

The results are in. Wife preferred the Trimix injected with Osbon band, 9.5 - 10 EQ, 5.4 inch (MSEG) erection over the pumped with Osbon band, 9 EQ, 5.9 inch (MSEG) erection. Apparently, EQ trumps girth.

Thanks everyone, I have had the surgery, and apart from some aspects which I might have controlled better, it seems to be all systems go…

This is what I posted at FrankTalk earlier today… Warning ; Its not a short post !!!

My History and Implant Story

( This is “Day 7”…. I was implanted at about 9am 24 July 2015 at St Vincent’s Private Hospital, Sydney SVPH.)

I’m now 64, retired, and always, from 5 years of age 100% gay, though have dabbled on the other side a couple of times. I eat healthy food and do weights at gym 5 or 6 days a week. I could pass for 50, so my friends have said…

My natural cock length in my early 20’s was a shade over 7 inches bone pressed

I discovered jelking in my 20’s from a book that’s still around in the sex/ fetish shops and got my first extra 3/8” over a few months in the late 70’s, but didn’t keep on with it. DAMN !!!

But 7.5 inches bone pressed x 5.5 inches around is way ahead of most white guys, but I have always been fascinated by big hung men, speedos, bulging 501’s and all, and discovered penis enlargement forums such as PE Forum, and Thunder’s Place very early in their history on the internet. Around 2000-2001.

Six months of jelking and vacuum pumping in 2001 got me a dick of 9.25” bone pressed length X 5.5” under the head, 6” mid shaft and 7+ at the base. I also hung weights using a Bib hanger, but could not seem to grow in length beyond the above excepting the increase in thickness at mid shaft and base. It was the hanging that gave me the girth.

I have a reputation that I do not ever try to hide in jeans, speedos, gym shorts. I will not be uncomfortable or sweaty, and I don’t care who sees it.

Over the intervening years since 2001, I’ve done some stretching, jelking and pumping to keep my size.

I don’t think there was any loss of erectile function during the time of active penis enlargement but from those years on, slowly I lost the ability firstly to keep an erection, and more recently to get a useable erection at all, without injections.

Men like that used to become alcoholics or shot themselves….

But Viagra restored me, and then Cialis. Levitra was not much good for me. And as all of those started to wane in effectiveness, I found a GP/ Men’s Sexual Health Specialist here in Sydney Dr Michael Lowy. Lovely, helpful man; a lot of men and marriages and sanity have been saved by him and his calling. From Michael I learned to inject his trimixes and quadmixes, around 2006.

Fast forward nearly 10 years to now, and all of Michael’s mixes now are needing very large amounts to get me hard, and I’m allergic to Prostaglandin (pain), and it’s costing me a fortune.
A painful erection is no fun….

A year or two ago at one of my visits Michael had a demonstration set of AMS penile implant tubes and the bulb and pump on his table, and he showed it all to me…. I was fairly horrified, and it all looked awfully flimsy too…. “I’ll become Mother Theresa if your mixes stop working” was my reaction…

Wind a year or so forward to the last few weeks, and I’m doing internet research and make my decision.

My AMS LGX 700 21 cm tubes and all were fitted here in Sydney on 24 July 2015. My own urologist, Dr Y did the operation, assisted on the day by senior urologist Dr S.

During the initial consultation, I told Dr Y that I have a penis over 9 inches in length, and while a lot of men might over-estimate I had photographic evidence to prove (not with me), and he assures me he will measure and fit appropriately . (He points out also its important not to make it all too long in order to avoid internal erosion of the glans.) Of course I say, we need a safely working penis as first priority or some such, and I respect his judgement. I also say that you must be fitting 19- 21 cm tubes to guys with “regular issue 6 inch shafts” since a third of it will be inside, and he agrees.

The truth is that I had lost some erect length, especially over the past year or so due to my penis not fully engorging towards the tip. But I’ve been a regular 8.75 inches or more, bone pressed.

I read up a couple of medical papers readily available through Google on minimising size loss, and for the three weeks before the operation re-instituted daily 10 minute stretches, jelking and pumping as per recommendations.

The other recommendation is an exhortation to surgeons to fit the longest tubes and rear tube extenders (RTEs) as possible to avoid floppy head syndrome.

After pumping each time I jelked again, and was able to regain erect length of 9.25 inches, but ONLY after pumping, not say next time on injection instigated erection . (I was using the pump to get my erections, and holding the erection in place with a cock ring or three). Also, my flaccid stretched length next day was very reluctant to get to 9.25 inches, where in PE days it used to be near 10 inches, and that’s what I was shooting for. If pumping injected, I put the needle in near the base of my shaft where my penis completely fills my 2.25 inch diameter x 12 inch long home made vacuum tube ( ever hopeful !!) so that the vacuum would not form a blood blister….

On the day of the operation I did gentle stretches just before going to admission.

Everything at the hospital pre-op was fine. (This and it’s compatriot Public Hospital are just great, as good as any in the major world capitals..)

On the morning after the operation, the Dr comes in and says it was all straight forward, no complications, not much fibrosis, regular sized tubes etc and there is a female nurse with him, and I get embarrassed speaking about my penis size, and instead I ask him what size tubes and RTE’s he used. “Just 21 cm extendable tubes”… I say “No RTE’s” and he says “No, pretty standard 21 cm tubes”…. I think to myself, “This is a penis that people have referred to as an extra person in the room, and that some men have said ‘Hello’ and ‘Goodbye’ to in the (swimming shorts / speedos compulsory) mixed gender steam rooms at one of the gyms I used to go to. This is not a “pretty standard” example of soon to be rampant manhood….. But then I think, everyone measures differently, the tubes can only go to mid point of the glans to leave a cushioned covering, and my shaft clearly has done some shortening….

So… If I sum up how I felt at that point….”We’ll just have to see what the effect of the 20 % extra elongation from the LGX tubes has…. Maybe it will be OK, and a true 8 inch penis, with erection on demand on an Anglo- Aussie is better than a Rolls Royce, and I only drive a Golf.” ………

Post -Op the Dr’s had left me 80% erect and with catheter in place for the first 24 hours, and it was pretty uncomfortable. In Australia they won’t thrown you straight out after recovery because you do need a catheter and drain; they keep you in at least one, if not 2 nights which was the case with me.

On my pain management cycle I was “empty”as the 6 hours were up, and I had just had 2 oral Endone 5 mins before Dr came in, but he tried to deflate me, and did somewhat, and it was very painful in my scrotum, and especially when he bent my dick to get the saline out. He couldn’t do it, so I researched again on the internet and learned to deflate it myself. All good; he knew he would hurt me if he pressed hard enough.

I had absolutely no bruising anywhere or fluid build up in my scrotum, but did have a very impressive 6 inch x 6 inch around semi-rigid “flaccid” at that time and up until yesterday, and over the days in the hospital I strangely got more and more horny… I thought the device was auto-inflating, and hence my reason to rapidly learn deflation and “roll up and squeeze”. It seemed that all of the trauma to my penis was giving me erectile power I certainly didn’t know I still had, especially with the cavernosa taken out and replaced by plastic water balloons. I must ask the Dr about that….. I only had to move and it would get more erect…. Weird.

I was monitored throughout by ECG machine, and every couple of hours for temperature and blood pressure, and had a lot of intravenous antibiotics, right up until I was discharged to the care of friends on the Friday afternoon. Since there is a likelihood of infection, it’s only right to be looked after like this, IMHO.

Anyway, it’s all gone well, and now at day 7 I’ve been off the strong pain killers for 2 days and just need paracetamol/ ibuprofen mix to stave off a dull ache.

The incision is very neatly across my lower abdomen, and he put the pump on my left side since I’m left handed.

For the first few days it was very uncomfortable to wear underpants, BUT even worse without them due to the erection thing that was happening. My recommendation is definitely not to (possibly ever contemplate again) bikini brief underwear, and also not cotton floppy boxers either. You need boxer briefs with decently generous pouch and a decent amount of stretchy material for support keep your penis where you find it most comfortable. And try to find some without a seam right down the front. You are never going to have a soft, compliant flaccid again, always some rigidity and the stitches dig into it.

I’m glad my Dr does not incise and operated through the scrotal skin. My penis was not bandaged at all, and pubic hair will grow over the 2.5 inch scar just above my dick.

I hate ever wearing my dick straight down, I am 6 inches flaccid and it feels sweaty and pushes against my balls. Thankfully by yesterday I could bend it sideways or 45 degrees for comfort, and am cycling it left and right especially during this healing period. But as it will never again be fully flaccid, and I was getting some looks yesterday out in average tightness corduroy trousers against Sydney’s bitter winter (˜9 C min, 19C max) ( Just under 50 F to about 67F)…. Bitter…

I’m to see the Dr next Friday, but, using the logic that since it’s OK for them to leave you erect off the operating theatre table for 24 hours, and the only thing that’s stopping you pumping it is pain, and my pain has nearly all gone, I erected it this morning ( Day 7) …. And had a gentle, long wank, watching some visually exciting videos (!!)… The aspect of men needing to blow a load every few days is never considered…. It felt only a little sore, all good feelings retained. And my nipples still are still “attached to my dick”…I thought that might be “lost”.

I have read here to expect the pump bulb to be really hard to compress, and it is. Down the track a bit, if trying to get an erection “in company” without drawing attention to mechanical devices, it will really have to free up a lot. I guess that’s part of the daily cycling, to get adept with it all… I think I pumped it all the way this morning….How do you know ? The bulb was so hard at that point it could not be pumped again, and since scrotal skin is involved there is a limit to “how many hard squeezes” one can make.

BUT, I have to report that if it was fully inflated, I have lost about 0.5 inch girth. (Length is moore complex.)

Girth is now 5” around under the head, and 5.5” mid shaft, and 6” at base. The head was not erect, despite being so for days and days in hospital. “(I see Mr Dick still has a pernickety mind of his own)….. And the head was definitely kinda floppier than I ‘d like, though I can feel the tubes rigidly hitting whatever bone that is at the very base…My backbone? At the glans end, they also seem extend well up into the spongy flesh we love…. But not (at least yet) be structurally rigid as before…..

So maybe it’s Cialis to make the corpora spongeosum harder ?

And I measured my bone pressed penile + flaccid glans length at 21.5 cm, about 8.5 inches. HURRAH !!! No visible loss of length.

I also roughly measured underneath, the total length of the the erected tubes at 21 cm…

Where are those pesky 4.2 cm representing the 20 % stretch of 21 cm as promised by LGX ?

“Looking for 4.2 cm more to partly fix my floppy knob”…

(And get me to near 9 inches)…

I think guys report that lost girth returns.

All good.

To be continued….

Rob