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Lap dancer has given me some sort of awakening. Whats going on?

Originally Posted by LittleEngine
Not necessarily.

A woman will become frustrated with a man that she sees as controlled by both her and the outside world.

She will also ultimately become just as frustrated with a man that both she and the outside world cannot control.

Ultimately she wants a man that is confident yet there for her while standing up confidently to the world around him.

It’s less about her being disenfranchised because she has control over you, than her feeling concern because she feels the rest of the world also has control over you.

A woman will love a man that gives himself to her, because she is worth it, while he at the same time stands strong to the world’s challenges as they come.

Don’t worry about giving yourself to the woman you love, be strong and let her know how you feel. If one is worried about looking controlled, then know, the woman is watching how you deal with the world around you. She wants your love, you can bend to her, your giving to her becomes diminished when you also bend to everything else around you.

Always be true to yourself. If you love someone, then be there for them, have no fear. This is strength.

If being you turns her off, no worries, the ocean is vast.

Be you, no fear.

Little Engine. She cannot fully control you. They aren’t attracted to what they control. They view it as “conquered”. The exception is if you are a dominant physical specimen. Like a “buck” slave back in the days. That buck was more virile, physically dominant, a beast in the bedroom compared to the master.

She has to strongly desire you and prefer you for the sex.

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
Thanks, I know. I feel even more alive than after the Goddess.

I also quit port at the exact same time.

Still can’t believe how bright and deep colours are to me after the Goddess.

SB

You acting like it’s sex for your first time. My first activated parts of me that obviously were never enabled because i saw the world differently immediately after laying with her. And yes alcohol when your life is in a bind or depressive is a cop out.

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
The next day I feel some how unlocked. It was then I realised that receive massage session was not at all self indulgent it was in fact therapeutic. Now I love science and if its not backed by double blind research I not interested. But at the same time I can’t help but wonder if the intruding thought was in fact something unlocking that I have read about. I text her to say that I had realised that it was not indulgent but therapeutic. And i get a short reply back, “You are blossoming”.

Sexual energy.

Now I realised that it was in fact low I can do a few things. Rest and wait for it to come up or build it. So this morning I brought my self to the PONR twice and using the breathing and PC muscle I was able to bring myself back and decided not to ejaculate. The beauty of this is that I can feel sexual and have another play during the day should I want to.

SB

These tantric classes are they with a group or it’s her individually? Do they have a web page?

Originally Posted by djrobins
Little Engine. She cannot fully control you. They aren’t attracted to what they control. They view it as “conquered”. The exception is if you are a dominant physical specimen. Like a “buck” slave back in the days. That buck was more virile, physically dominant, a beast in the bedroom compared to the master.

She has to strongly desire you and prefer you for the sex.

No one should ever fully control or dominate you, this true for any positive relationship.

However, I think it’s fairly straightforward.

If you strongly disagree with her or strongly don’t want to do, don’t agree and don’t do.

If you agree with her, then agree with her.

If it’s not that important to you, but it it’s something she wants and you love her, then support her.

Btw, you don’t have to be some “buck”. You need to know how to fulfill her emotionally and physically. Show the woman a good time and how to have fun. Be there not just for the ups, but also through the downs.

If being yourself is not enough, then it’s just not a good fit, we move on.


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Originally Posted by LittleEngine
No one should ever fully control or dominate you, this true for any positive relationship.

However, I think it’s fairly straightforward.

If you strongly disagree with her or strongly don’t want to do, don’t agree and don’t do.

If you agree with her, then agree with her.

If it’s not that important to you, but it it’s something she wants and you love her, then support her.

Btw, you don’t have to be some “buck”. You need to know how to fulfill her emotionally and physically. Show the woman a good time and how to have fun. Be there not just for the ups, but also through the downs.

If being yourself is not enough, then it’s just not a good fit, we move on.

Very good. Assertive and direct positive communication.

Originally Posted by LittleEngine

Be you, no fear.

Correct.

Originally Posted by djrobins
These tantric classes are they with a group or it’s her individually? Do they have a web page?

Both. Google ‘Tantric Goddess’ and your location.

SB

No updates?

Originally Posted by djrobins
No updates?

I’ve enrolled to do level one training.

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
I’ve enrolled to do level one training.

A step towards personal growth. Bless your life.

Originally Posted by Don Logan
I keep reading this thread, SB, with a feeling of familiarity. It’s an untenable position. On the one hand, you’re not allowed (as in most monogamous relationships) to have sex and intimacy on the side. On the other hand, she won’t give it to you. It’s the plight of so many guys. The members who say to double-down on sex and intimacy with your wife have only the best intentions, and this is not a criticism because that can work in some shorter-term relationships. But you can get to a point in a long-term relationship when those actions have no effect (in fact, SB has tried already). So, you double down on her with sex and intimacy or…you do the opposite and withdraw from her…whatever you do, you find that it’s not working.

Her comment that implied “if you do the ironing, you will get sex” (or whatever the hell the chore was), hit me hard. It’s a counterfeit coin that so many modern women believe to be real. It’s one of those comments that allow the man no avenue. If you did the laundry, you might (just might) get some duty sex. Yet you’ve cast yourself in that begging role that one of the members mentioned.

I don’t envy you, and I’ve been exactly where you are. Keep us updated. A man needs to think for himself eventually, and it sounds like you’re doing this.


Been in touch with the dancer. Also told wife about Tantric Goddess. Stayed tuned.

Originally Posted by Shaunbaby
Been in touch with the dancer. Also told wife about Tantric Goddess. Stayed tuned.

It’s been three months. How are you and the wife now?

Originally Posted by djrobins
It’s been three months. How are you and the wife now?

When I first saw this I said to myself, ‘three months wasted.’

Then I thought that I had ended a three month toxic contract job, so that was positive. Negative was that I was drinking too much in order to cope. Saw my Cardiologist who said the toxic job would have literally killed me as the stress and the drinking, so I am glad I pulled out.

As per normal wife drags me to the Dr, as I need to be fixed for drinking, and I get referred to a Psychiatrist. So I see her and go through the whole story thinking to myself how many times have I told this to different professionals. She says it is a global change that need to happen between all members of the family. She also says I need to address me first otherwise the family will just blame the alcohol. She also tells me I am invalidated, lonely, have low self worth and am trapped. All accurate. She then refers me to a Psychologist that she works with. So I tell the story again and she tells me she would like to see my wife and or wife and kids. If the kids come she said she will tone down on the sexual aspect of our relationship. Asked the wife to come and was told she was too busy. Fair enough to a point as she had to take her father to the Dr. Tried to reschedule to the following week and was told she would need to take the whole day off work to make it happen. Psychologist wanted to explain how all the behaviours of the family are effecting me.

Managed to get a week away with the family when lock downs were some what relaxed. Not bad but no intimacy.

Come back and good old Christmas day rolls around. I ran around getting ready all morning, didn’t eat and was probably dehydrated. Had a beer at lunch with family and it was 6+% and it hit me. Made it though lunch then later on I had a massive breakdown. The alcohol pushes the emotions to the surface and I was a mess. Ended up calling my mum and staying with her Christmas night and the following day. Confided in my mum that she was the only person I could confide in as the wife simply isn’t there.

I come home and two days later the wife and I start to talk. It starts to become an argument at which point I call it and say this is becoming an argument and I’m stopping. I try to leave and she is still arguing and grabs me. Funny how if I grabed her I would be the one charged, but she is a women so physically restraining me is fine. She then tells me I better to to stay with my mother. I’m still trying to get out of the room and she is still restraining me. I threaten to hit her, but don’t, and force the door open and get away from her. She then shouts, go on run to mommy! Then she completely breaks down in wailing tears. I think because of her mother’s distancing my wife has always done tasks to get her mothers approval. By the way, three psychologist believe I am right in this assumption. Found her a psychologist that deals with trauma and she told me in an other episode that there was nothing wrong with her, while she was crying at the time. That was probably a year ago. So I stay with her to make sure she is alright but by this time she is with the kids who are also telling me to go away. She keeps herself so busy all the time and there is nothing left, so she then breaks down. (She told me this morning she was going to plant some plants. Next thing I hear the mower start, but she can’t start it. So I’m expected to start it. Seriously this just happened while I am typing this! She has to keep herself busy 100% of the time and nothing left for me)

So I am still seeing the Instructor and am quite open about it now, I don’t tell my wife I’m going but if she rings me I tell her where I am. Told her I know she doesn’t like it so I don’t rub it in her face, but I won’t lie to her.

I’ve also unpacked what was said above and I now don’t see a problem with being intimate with others. It is social conditioning that no longer serves me.

My instructor invited me to a self pleasuring workshop, however Covid is probably going to delay that event. Told the wife and asked her if she wanted to come. She told me I already know how to self pleasure. I told her I know how to drive but can’t drive a race car. I’m actually quite excited as this will be the first time my instructor has done such a work shop and included men. I’m glad she trusts me so much.

I’ve also found an escort who does Tantra and full service, but I’m yet to go down that path. A close friend said that my wife has accepted the instructor and pretends like nothing has happened, so just keep her social status and do what you want.

SB

Sorry to hear this. One Day at a Time


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