7 years of PE, little gains

Gladly. I will report back. Thank you.

Clamped Jelqing ??? That sounds dangerous as hell, even if he did PE for hundreds of years, that still sounds like a BIG risk of losing his penis.

Sounds to me like you have extremely tough ligaments. I would try fulcrum hanging. It stretches the tunica instead of the ligs. Again always use heat. Start at 5lbs and one hour a day. Slowly bring up either time or weight. I generally only went up half a pound or less a week. It’s a slower rate of gain technically but if you can’t gain from stretching the ligs then I would start there.

I would have to agree with this. Light squeezes and edging with a clamp is dangerous enough but actually jelqing with a clamp would be disastrous.

That’s OK, I’m not attempting anything risky and I’m more concerned with length than girth.

Correct me if I’m wrong: fulcrum hanging is nothing more than hanging while resting the shaft on a fulcrum, right? That sounds like stretching downwards while gripping the forearm with the free hand underneath the shaft (I don’t recall the name of that variant), using the wrist as a fulcrum.

This is advanced and only for those who are confident that they have developed an expertise for applying pressure to their cock.

Once one begins to apply a static restriction of blood flow at the base and then begins to also apply some forward forces, this is more like, or is, a uli, which is again, an advanced exercise. A uli is only a slight forward motion as with the greater base restriction, this is all that can be safely applied.

The greater the restriction at the base, then the less the restriction can be for the forward motion, if any can be applied at all. It’s a dance and for the sake of safety, it is one dependent on immediate pressure adjustments while in exercise.

Prior to applying any clamps I would practice this using a completely manual approach. This will provide one the ability to quickly release pressure at both the base (static restriction point) and at the jelqing hand (dynamic restriction point).

Always take it slow and feel it out. Over confidence has resulted in the demise of many “experts.”

The stretch upward resulting in new gains is a great example.

So I’ve been switching to a stretching-oriented routine these last few weeks.

I stretch in all directions (primarily downwards) for a few minutes, with varying degrees of force, then using my wrist as a fulcrum, then a few stretches with my penis twisted. All of this with an IR lamp. Sometimes I do the stretches manually, sometimes while wearing the PF. Total time around 25 minutes. Repeat almost every day. During the rest of the day I wear the PF for as long as I can (as long as it’s comfortable). Once every few days I jelq and then finish off with a couple BM sets.

As usual, I do not feel ANYTHING when stretching. Nor does it turtle or hang lower after exercising. The only thing I get is a sore thumb and index. As far as the penis is concerned, it’s as if nothing is really happening, or at least that’s been my impression throughout the years - like when you are used to working out to the point your muscles don’t get sore anymore after a work out. The only reaction of note usually comes from my foreskin when I wear/hang with the PF for too long (I cannot stand that protective cap and the foreskin swells up after a while).

I know that it takes a long while to see progress, but I’m worried I’m getting this wrong because I don’t get any feedback from my unit, have seldom gotten any.

Listen to the feedback and correct your approach. Try some JAI stretches or jelq (properly) then stretch. Try to get to the point where you feel you’ve done work or it’s pointless. It’s possible that by approaching it the way you’ve done it, you’ve made your penis more resilient, so the next step would be a deconditioning break of a few months.

Thanks memento. I took a few long breaks during the past 7 years mainly due to frustration. I think I’ve been training regularly once again for just 4-5 months now.

When I jelq I apply moderate pressure (more firm at the base, easing up as I work my way to the top) making sure one stroke takes at least three seconds, not rushing it. I don’t know if that counts as proper form, but I do know that I don’t get much of a feedback from jelqing either. Yes, it’s a bit plumpier for a few minutes but that’s really it.

Don’t know if it helps - I’ve always stretched BEFORE jelqing as the lubricant makes it harder to stretch afterwards, but I remember reading that the order doesn’t really matter?

You shouldn’t need to change your grip as you proceed with a stroke. If you aren’t getting positive feedback from jelqing, look at your technique - it’s actually a complex exercise that a lot of people do badly. Read the how to jelq thread and watch the video: jelq. Whatever moderate pressure is to you might need to do more.

4-5 months with zero gains is probably enough to toughen up the penis but keep going for now. Try to fix your routine before considering a break.

The reason I suggest stretching after jelqing is because when you’ve been working the tissue thoroughly with jelqing you might find your stretches are more effective. Yeah you might needs to wash up and warm wrap again before you go into stretching but it’s worth experimenting with. It’s worth experimenting with all aspects of a routine until you hit upon one which leaves you with positive PIs after a session: probably increased flaccid length and girth for some hours (though there are some gainers who don’t experience this). Most people can do stretching first and it works fine.

Remember the process of PE is controlled damaged to the penis. If you aren’t doing enough work to cause damage you’re wasting your time.

If I were you, I’d look at the P-shot.
Either find a place that done is cheaply enough or go the route I have and DIY it.
You can buy all the gear for around $100, can give you links if you want, you can then do p-shots that some would charge a lot for cheaply as often as you dare to stick a needle in your dick.

This should give a ton of growth factors.
But don’t do a mere 60ml draw if you DIY it, you can do 120ml of blood a time in the centrifuge, 2 batches a day, make a much larger stronger dose of Platelet Rich Plasma.

I can point you to videos on how to do PRP, videos of it being injected (most say you can barely feel it).
Many claims that with pumping you can gain an inch or 2 rather fast.

I figure your problem is either an awfully tough penis, or a lack of growth factors or both.
Either way this might help.

There is also, just FYI the vitamin D3 study, my current research suggests it might not be overly hazardous to take the megadoses of Vit D3 with K2 & Magnesium, but it must be done with care, and while all 14 participants grew in length, some only modestly.

I am going to try and combine the D3, P-shot with pumping, ADS and more for hopefully accelerated results.

The large majority of members here are pretty intelligent people.

I suggest you read through all of Penisislongerer’s posts first, and then make your own decision on whether you can believe and trust his advice.

But you demonstrate it’s not universal ;)

Sorry, couldn’t resist kicking a little $#!+ back your way.

Certainly if he is interested he can find my progress report thread and ask questions and use his own brain/judgement.

Here is a link to a post I just started dedicated to Vitamin D3 (with K2 and Magnesium as safety factors).
Vitamin D3K2Magnesium Penis Enlargement

Again, while growing the penis is tempting, there are risks to excessive D3 exposure and that is a large dose, see if you think it is acceptable, I can’t recommend it, it is experimental, but also not as dangerous as might be assumed if one study especially is to be believed!

PRP injection BTW has Over 30 bioactive proteins
7-12 growth factors including IGF-1 which Vitamin D3 releases and has been claimed to grow penises in some bodybuilders.
DIY’ing it is again, only for the brave of hard, big balled and maybe a touch foolhardy (or hopefully frugal and careful).

There are also risks to a lot of Penis Enhancement though, though those risks are mostly to your penis. Pumping, hanging, Jelqing especially can cause damage and methods to pull on the penis head risk nerve damage and amputation.
While those methods are unlikely to kill you, serious penis damage might make you not want to live.

I am not throwing shade on the current methods, just saying that maybe for those who have little results, they could be good candidates to consider experimental hormone/growth factor possibilities, as for PRP (p-shot) I mention some here:
Length not girth, I want to be longer