Originally Posted by slipstream
I don’t think there are a lot of guys who have grown a lot using strictly ADS.
I ran across a post by Grief_ in which he mentions gaining 3/4” in 4 months using nothing but an ADS. This is truly exceptional. There are probably others, but I still don’t think there are many. I just wanted to follow up with an example that does indicate the possibility, if you really want to pursue it.
Like mgus and most others, I think that you’ll get much more out of jelqing, which is part of the newbie routine. A more impressive flaccid hang, better erection quality and girth are all qualities that you probably won’t see from ADS, alone. mgus has definitely tried many of these options and we’re all lucky to be able to benefit from his experience.
Originally Posted by mgus
There is NO “quickly and decisively” road to gains, OK?
I’m not sure he was saying he strictly saying he needs quick and decisive gains. I interpreted his comment to refer as much to making a decision on a plan and executing it to realize his goals. Now, in my opinion it is premature optimization to try something other than the newbie routine, but I think we all would rather make sure we’re not wasting time or effort.
Originally Posted by mgus
Just do the damn Newbie routine so that you get accustomed to beating up your dick
I think it is a little harsh to be so critical of people who don’t completely buy the newbie routine as gospel. Despite the proven benefits, I don’t doubt for a second that there may be (and probably is) a more effective starter routine. In the universe of possibilities, it seems dogmatic to think otherwise.
Don’t get me wrong, I still think the newbie routine should be recommended, but I don’t think that it should be taboo to discuss the pros and cons of alternatives. If we all blindly accepted conventional wisdom, we wouldn’t be practitioners of this PE pursuit.
Testguy, quickly and decisively start the newbie routine while considering your options. :)