At What Point Should I See Girth Gains?

So I first saw thunders a few years ago and started doing the newbie routine and then eventually pumping. Got some length gains from the manuals and some more from the pumping as I was packing the tube quickly and getting a good stretch. However girth gains have been non existent which is frustrating as that’s what I really want lol. I oscillate between 6.8-7” depending on how aroused etc but I am dead accurate at 13cm in girth every single time. Have been pumping pretty regularly for the past 3 months with a new bigger tube that I can’t pack and am up to 1 hour at 4hg which usually puts me around 14-14.2cm with very mild fluid build it.

For the last couple weeks I have been tossing on a clamp for 10mins after the pumping and have gotten up to around 14.5-14.7cm girth there. Have also twice just clamped without pumping I have done 2 10 minute sets starting at 13cm and ending around 14.2-14.3ish after the end of the second set.

However even after all this next day will start back at 13cm mseg like clock work. I have seen NO permanent gains. Erection quality is good and the thicker effects after a session last usually until mid morning ish the next day although gradually starting to diminish nearly right away(I do this all at night). Is this just too short a time frame to see any results? Am I not clamping enough or for long enough? Girth is really what I’m after as I’m pretty ok with my length but would like to get 15cm or so in girth at some point. Seems unlikely at the moment.

I’m at the same point. I am growing in the tube, and have actually had to move up to a larger tube. Yet girth changes out of tube are very minimal. Really struggling with why I am not seeing some results out of the tube. I do know that my pumped girth is the only time I see my wife make the “ohhhh my” face from the girth. I never get that face without pumping. May need to change my routine to more manual girth excercises.

I don’t know which point, maybe give time for your penis to adapt the exercise, intensity, pressure, force etc. and then grow.

By the way, which cylinder size you are using?

There is no time. Most don’t gain girt unfortunately.

Started with a 1.75” cylinder and I pack that in about 25-30 mins. When I say pack my base and my glans are thicker then midshaft so they pack first and then no matter how much time or pressure I use the midshaft never gets larger I’m guessing because the glans are basically a plug from the vacuum of the pump? So switched to a 2” tube which I cannot pack even at an hour so thats good I suppose. When you say give time how much time would you give before saying hmmm this doesnt work for me. I ask because I have noticed that as the poster above mentions many do not grow in girth at all. If I am one of those I likely would just do PMMA shots for girth and be done with it.

An hour in the pump seems like it’s too long to me. An hour plus ten minutes of clamping is definitely going to toughen up your penis tissues, more than it will encourage growth. In my experience and opinion. Seems like you should take a break for a month, maybe six weeks. Then start back with a shorter workout.

So whats the appropriate amount of time?

So you have 13cm girth and use first cylinder of 14cm girth, yes could be quite tight for you after some time under pressure. A difference of 0.25” in cylinder is quite big, makes difference because now you are using a 16,05cm girth cylinder, now imagine that your penis tissues will have to expand 3cm, that is not easy, that will take months and for you to have gains outside cylinder more months.

I will give my opinion: majority of guys don’t know of the basics of PE and start pumping, they are ignorant of the biology, cylinders quality, routines that work, of pumping pressure intensity, time etc. That makes the pumping, in my opinion, the modality of PE with less gainers. The good part of that is for us to see, understand and write down all the things that does not work. I used to see everyday men failing pumping in reddit forum of pumping through their pictures, they all thought they were doing things right, growing their penises, “look my 15~18cm girth schlong” that looked like a unhealthy red sausage, that is far from good, men ruining their foreskins and penis’s tissues doing pumping, in reality none of them had real gains (that means outside cylinder), but only under cylinder pressure.

I truly believe that pumping takes more time to have gains than other ways like clamping. Everything may work, it’ll depend on how you do it, I saw gains doing long time pumping sessions, problem with pumping is that you can’t stop doing it, it addicts you to do it. Nowadays, for me, is far easier for girth to just do clamping, do some 2~3 sets of 10~12 minutes, doing that for almost a month measured my girth 2 days ago and measured 15cm EG that is my goal of 2021 for PE, before that I was 14,5~14,8cm EG, that could mean 0,5cm to 0,2cm girth gains in almost 5 months doing pumping only, 1 month pumping + clamping, 1 month clamping only. Maybe give 6 to 8 months to see if you had gains doing a certain routine, take pictures with measurements if you can, throw away the ruler (that is very important) and then see if you had progress.

Abraço

c3ifador.

C3ifador,

Thank you for the feedback. What is the right way to pump then? I had pumped in the smaller tube for about 6 months a few years ago and saw some length gains which I have kept for the most part. Started at 20 mins at 4hg and added 5 mins a week til I was up to 1.5 hrs in the pump. Now one point where I realize now I should have clarified is when I say an hour in the pump I don’t mean an hour straight.

Right now I am doing 30 mins at 4hg then come out of the tube and edge and jelq for 5 mins then back in the tube for another 30 mins after which I again edge and jelq. I don’t like alot of edema so thats why I use the lower pressure for more time. It comes out and is fairly solid not all puffy etc and I stroke and jelq to get the extra fluid moving back out as I don’t want like you said some 15-18cm donut filled dick. Thats why my total growth in the tube is fairly small compared to some who say they grow up to an inch in the tube.

There are various ways to make it work, thought some ideas, but I will say what I believe would be the best for you that is the way of Tiltleist:
2 or 3 sets of 1 hour each set, you don’t need to do 60 minutes, but around that number is good;
Low pressure, between 3~5mmhg, if you feel you can go to next level go 5~8mmhg, but remember the long time with medium-high pressure is not recommended if you need your dick later to have sex;

What I say for you to do:
1- Jelq with some good oil like coconut oil before for 10~15 minutes to prepare your skin and inner tissues for the expansion through the pressure inside the pumping, DO NOT JELQ AFTER PUMPING;
2- if you are not conditioned yet to do 1 hour pumping sets, work that going from 30 minutes sets, adding 10 minutes into your sets each week until 60 minutes sets;
3- between and after each set of pumping do 10 minutes of clamping to expand even more the inner tissues like the tunica, CC and CS, kegel all you want;
4- After you finish pumping do 5~10 minutes (no more than that) edge and finish.
Use something behind your glans to not expand that place (behind coronal ridge).