Best flaccid length gainer

I am happy with my erect length now, but i was wondering what the best way to gain flaccid length. I have read about the the various ways, but was wondering what some of the main members thought worked the best. Thanks for your input.

look up fowfers stretch

Ya I have read a lot about fowfers. I heard they work great. I am just trying to get as many opinions as possible. Thanks for your input.

Actually, just doing the exercises (like jelqing, stretching and fowfers) will increase your flaccid over time. Just takes a lot of hard work.

ADS

Any more suggestions?

Fowfers and more fowfers

My thesis is that flaccid length in particular tends to have a huge statistical variation in between individuals:

It’s all about how your cells make use of those polypeptides available to either create a surplus of elastin or a surplus of collagen in the course of the tissue healing process.

For my part, I did not do any ‘special flaccid size’ exercises at all, yet my flaccid went from 2,5”-3” to 5,5”-6,5”; erect is barely an inch more. I can hence conclude for myself that my tissue has a low tendency to rebuild cells with elastin, and a high tendency to rebuild collagen.

So I strongly question the claim that certain exercises would particularly aim at flaccid length. How on earth are these exercises supposed to make your cells prefer collagenous structures to elastineous ones?

You can surely do those ‘flaccid gain’ exercises as a psychological booster to ‘finally do something for ones flaccid hang’ - sure enough. On the other hand you might as well concentrate on a certain type of routine, either length-based (hanging, manual stretching + ADS) or girth-based (clamping, jelqing + ADC) to get the best out of your workouts. Once you get your tissue to a point to super-compensate the broken structures, you will gain, both erect and flaccid. Period.

Rotation stretches.

Wow this is an old thread. I believe it’s fowfers and ADS. Bird2 knows his stuff though so that’s a good idea as well.

Hi Doubleweener,

yours is the first post that I would call “scientific” about flaccid size.

I suspected what you say but my knowledge in physiology is low so in this field I need some inputs.

Do you have same link for going deeper on this question?

In these 6 months of regular PE my BPFSL is increased a lot and is still growing,
while my flaccid is fuller but is size is substantially the same.
In bad day I was 2.3”, now in same condition I am 3”.

Thanks in advanced.

I’m glad you’re asking - I presumed my words wouldn’t be read, nor taken seriously.
It would definitely demand deeper research to give you quality links and put more flesh on my loose statement.

One thing I rather regard as ‘common PE knowledge’ that builds up when spending your spare time reading the posts in this forum:
From the amount of posts and the experiences stated therein you can undeniably claim certain statements as facts:
1. There are ‘growers’ and ‘showers’, those with a high erect-to-flaccid ratio, and those with a low one.
2. PE works in terms of penile tissue growth increasing both flaccid and erect size
3. PE can change the erect-to-flaccid ratio, but not necessarily;
This is the point with the high individual variation:
Take an example: Mr. A starts with 3.5” flaccid and 6.0” erect; after several months of PEing he is at 4.0” flaccid and 7.0” erect
Mr. B starts with the same starting stats: 3.5” flaccid and 6.0” erect; after several months of PEing he is at the same 7.0” erect, however at 5.0” flaccid. We assume both did the same routine under the same environmental conditions (temperature, nutrition, etc). So both use the same methods of penis enlargement to stretch the ligaments and break down the penile tissue of the tunica. The difference between the guys however is that the cells of Mr. B have a different scheme of working: from the amino acids and peptides they receive as building blocks for structural proteins, they tend to build up rather collagenous tissue (collagen is more rigid than elastin), whereas the cells of Mr. A rather tend to super-compensate the broken tissue with elastin (elastin, a very stretchable, elastic structural protein, hence the name). A normal pre-PE tissue is in most cases comprised of an equal percentage of elastin and collagen. Your body tends to keep it balanced, so your erect-to-flaccid ratio would be about the same pre-PE as post-PE, I.e. A factor of around 1,5 - 2,5.
Stating the above I further conclude that - even though the selective mind of some blokes here might make them think otherwise - there is no exercise that aims on flaccid gains only or mainly. You’re either gaining both flaccid and erect to a certain extend, or none at all. So just do those exercises you feel most comfortable with in terms of gaining, and let nature - I.e. Your genes - decide at which rate, under which erect-to-flaccid ratio to which extend you’re gaining. You cannot influence these factors, you can only provide the best gaining environment. Hope that helps!

It is all very interesting.

Only a note for now because here is 2.43 a.m,

If a normal pre-PE tissue is in most cases comprised of an equal percentage of elastin and collagen,
how can we explain the ” grower” and the” shower”?

Why in the locker room World 2 person with about the same erect penis may look so different?

I would say that the shower has a tunica very rich of elastin.

What do you think about that?

I would love to know what Bird2 thinks about what Doubleweener wrote. I hope DW is wrong, as I really want fowfers to work to increase flaccid length.

Although Doubleweener has made a few good points I have to tackle his statements. Opposite to DW I won’t use scientific proof but the experience of fellow members. I don’t entirely trust scientific proof in relation to PE, scientist still believe that PE isn’t possible while we all know it is.

I agree with DW that you should go for your erect goals and take the flaccid that goes with it. That is the advice I always have given and makes sure that one won’t get disappointed for having a to big flaccid. But there are exercises like fowfers and rotation stretches who will give mainly flaccid gains. Sure they are likely to give a little erect length but the ratio of erect vs flaccid length gains with there exercises will tend to be way in the favor of flaccid gains. Like I have said before, fellow members have claimed that and I believe them. Also I have done rotation stretches myself for a few months and in these months my flaccid length has grown way faster than it used to be. Looking back, I can’t see any other reason why my flaccid length gains where higher than normal than rotation stretches.

According to DW you just have to keep your current shape and just be happy with the genetics nature has given you. But I wonder what he thinks of all those people who have reported upper penis girth gains from Ulis, all those people who have seen an significant increase of lower penis girth gains from horses opposite to the other parts of their penis. Also we have even an anti-curvation routine, so guys can straighten their penis if they desire. This won’t be possible if the claims Doubleweener has made where true.