Can't believe this really works

Being a skeptical minded person I had always dismissed PE as wishful thinking and the realm of scam artists and charlatans milking the gullible of their hard earned cash. But when my 20 year (mostly happy) marriage ended suddenly in the middle of 2020 I began to wonder about giving it a try and as kind of a 2021 new year resolution decided to bite the bullet and actually start. I have always been quite self conscious of my size, probably ever since the first girl I was with at 15 said “I would be great when I grow up down there.” Not that I ever got complaints from lovers, it’s what you do with what you have that counts and effort and creativity and paying attention count for more than a big schlong. However I also knew from girlfriends that I was always on the smaller or smallest side of what they had had. And certainly from locker room observations (unless I’m the only one not fluffing) definitely smaller than average. Certainly I felt way smaller than what you would believe from average size studies where 14.5cm is only slightly below the norm. But I believe there must be an effect of selection bias in such studies because after all if you are well endowed then you are more likely to be willing to be measured versus smaller wouldn’t sign up in the first place.

Well that’s my motivations for trying this by way of intro. Definitely doing it for me and if any future partner gets an extra kick out of it then that’s a bonus for both of us.

But man, having been in corona enforced home office since March 2020 I now feel I wasted 6 months! Or even why didn’t I do this 20 or 30 years ago? Because the results (even after 1.5 months) are real and astounding. I’m shocked, but in a good way. So even after such a short time I have a solid 1cm gain in both erect length and girth but the truly astounding change is in flaccid state. I guess I was always a “grower” not a “shower” with a tiny thumb size flaccid of 7 - 8 cm (around 3”) and less in the cold! Well I don’t recognize myself anymore and almost blush (proudly) when I see myself in the mirror as my flaccid now is hanging at about 12cm and fuller too. Sure it’s erect that counts but psychologically the flaccid gains are just as if not more important.

Thus far my “routine” doesn’t remotely resemble the newbie routine and doesn’t involve any manual stretches and not really any jelqing either. What I am doing is..
- extender (about 4 hours/day). Weekdays on, weekends off (5:2)
- bathmate hydromax pump in the shower (5 - 10 mins/day). Every second weekday so about 3x/week (Have only had this for 2 weeks as of writing)
- during the day when not using extender use the vac sealing sleeve as a mild compression sleeve mainly to maintain the stretched length and stop any turtle effect

So why no newbie routine for me? Well I did quite a bit of reading (including the actual clinical study of one of the extender manufacturers) and it seems time at tension is more important than degree of stress, and with manual stretches the main indicator of stress is your own personal pain threshold. It just seemed more risky than an extender. But I might work this in in the future sometime. Why no jelqing? Well honestly I tried but I just can’t maintain the 70%+ erection needed. It doesn’t turn me on. During foreplay/sex with a partner present I have no issue to get it up and perform but mr johnson shows no interest at all in putting on a show just for the hell of it. So question for you experienced folks, “how do you do get it up?” Are you using porn during jelqing? Otherwise I just don’t see how it’s possible to be doing 20 strokes let alone 200!

The bathmate I just added as after 1 month I was pretty excited about the length gains and thought that seem as I wasn’t jelqing I should do something for girth. And the bathmate certainly seems to do the job. Although I don’t like the fluid retention (“turkey neck”) which I get even from short reps of only 1 - 2 minutes, which is why I’m only using it every other day. The other change-up I made is to order a vac bell and use that with the extender rather than the noose. It makes the setup a fair bit more complicated and time consuming but it is waaay more comfortable and has the benefit of not cutting off circulation. Haven’t had any issues of fluid build up with the vac cap even which in traction for up to 2 hours.

Thus far dick feels a little fatigued at the end of each day but not so much that I would knock back or avoid sex with my girlfriend (who hasn’t said anything as yet, not sure if she has noticed). No loss of EQ as far as I can tell. Although I would say that I would rate erections on weekdays (after 3 or 4 hours of extender traction) at only 80% capacity, but it recovers on the weekend after a day off.

This forum has been a good source of information (although TBH I’m sure it could be much better with a half decent search function. Finding stuff is not easy). I’m looking forward to see what people’s answers are about jelqing and opinions on what I’m doing wrong or right.

Welcome to the community, scroaterboater. I’m sorry to hear of the end of your long marriage. PE does work; have faith in that. Yes, it can be difficult to find things on this forum. But I’ve found that it works to my advantage because it forces me to search widely and deeply. I often pick up other useful information that I didn’t know I needed. If you need help finding stuff, PM me. Best wishes and, again, welcome.

This may help some:

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Thanks for the responses. I would really like to get some opinions on how to get it up (and keep it up) during jelqing exercises as I just don’t get how this is actually possible. (Maybe this is worth a separate thread as despite several search attempts I just can’t find anything dealing with this exact issue and I feel I can’t be the only one to have this problem.)

I think that even with the cloak of anonymity I would probably not post update pictures but I feel that I have kind of missed the boat anyway as particularly for normal flaccid state the newbie gains have been so big and so fast that now after 1.5 months it wouldn’t represent the true starting point.

Take the pictures for yourself you’ll be glad you did. No need to post them.

That’s why I gave up jelqs. Been trying for over an year with no success at all. I always give out a few jelqs in between sets just to get some blood in.

A jelq that I love is called the hammerhead. Over a sink or table press your penis with the palm of your hand making a press with your bodyweight, then pull hips back. That’s a real crusher and one I can handle and control exact pressure.

Ok grip for me feels like getting too much or too little idk.

I saw it on an earlier post so I’ll add this too. 70% erection is just a little too much to be jelqing at. Your best bet is probably in the 40-50% range. As far as getting it up? You can start with porn if you need it but you don’t necessarily have to. As far as maintaining the level all I can really say is your dick will eventually get used to the difference between work and play. It just takes time.

Bro, you have gained almost half an inch in less than 12 weeks! That’s incredible!
Well done

What do you think was the main contributing factor to the gain?

I think it’s just consistency. In this current covid situation I have mandatory work from home so I’m able to use the extender during my work day and I think I have averaged about 4 hours per day for 4 to 5 days per week. So in the 9 or 10 weeks since I started I probably have in the range of 130 - 150 hours using the extender.
I’m not keeping a log and not really intending to. Just going to keep being consistent. At this point I am getting some stretch marks and discomfort at the base of the shaft but I think that’s because of the proximity of the contact point with the base of the extender. In any case some stretch marks seem a good trade-off to me.

I think I would write it off as newbie gains, but gain is still gain. I’m planning to measure once per month, so next will be middle of April. No point being obsessed with the ruler.

Hi

What extender are you using?

What vac sealing sleeve are you using, and can you explain a bit more of how you are using it

Hi happypepe

I’m using a Jes Extender and the VacExtender 4 adaption cylinder and sleeve from AutoExtender. Using it exactly as per the instructions on AutoExtender website. One thing to note is that because the vac cylinder attaches to the extender essentially a bit beyond the tip of your penis versus the regular noose being at the bottom of the glans this means you need to extend the side-arms with an extra 5cm rod, so if you are already over 20cm then you would also need extra rods.

Congratulations on your progress, since it’s working I wouldn’t mess with things until it doesn’t. Also congratulations on the new girlfriend!

Reserving measuring as a 1x per month activity. Gains much slower last month versus the first 6 weeks but still gains.

Happy with progress. No girth gains that couldn’t just be a measuring error but some definite length gain. I might need to reevaluate my 1st year in PE goal for Jan 2022.

Jelqs are difficult to master but totally worth the investment in time. I’ve done nothing but jelqs, ulis and various squeezes. My gains may have been slow but they are significant. Jelq are a flexible, adaptable and convenient PE exercise, and the quest of controlling your erection level is rewarding beyond PE.

I just got into PE a month or 2 ago as well. I noticed the big change in flaccid hang too. It is definitely a good motivator in itself. With jelqing I use porn but sometimes overshoot the ideal level of erection. I don’t look at the porn the whole time, I usually leave it playing (without sound because that would put me over the 60-70% limit too) and just take a look for a few seconds. That usually puts me up to 60-70% erection. Then I look away and jelq until it goes down to around 40-50%. Then I take another quick look to get me back up to 60-70%, and continue repeating that. I try to think about something other than sexual fantasy when I look away though, as I will tend to get over 60-70% erection if I fantasize.

Like I said I am pretty new so I don’t know if that’s the ideal way. It’s just what I’ve been doing.

I wish you the continued gains!