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Originally Posted by man-of-10
It’s probably because a rapid cooling would cause a rapid contraction at the molecular level, perhaps causing many microtears and thus leading to growth.

I don’t think a rapid cooling is such a big stimulus for growth, even causing microtears, but maybe you know something more about it. :)


Starting stats: 6.4" / 5.6" Current Stats: 7.4" / 5.8" Short term goal: 7" / 6" Long term goal: 8" / 6.5"

There are actually studies that would suggest we should avoid the use of heat if using gentle PE exercises with low forces. Heat may in fact make the slight deformation we see during gentle exercises more of an elastic change, rather than a plastic change. We want a plastic change. Because of this, I am not using heat in my current routine, which does not include any high-force/high-pressure and I seem to be gaining girth at a rapid rate.


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

Originally Posted by man-of-10
Hey flashpoint. Before you turn the shower to cold, make your stretched unit as hot as is comfortable with the shower-head. The switch the shower to cold and run it over your stretched unit for up to 2 minutes. It also helps to shower your body with hot water leading up to all this since a raised core body temperature will greatly reduce the possibility of any turtling.

And yeah boner, his full name was xenolith. It’s probably because a rapid cooling would cause a rapid contraction at the molecular level, perhaps causing many microtears and thus leading to growth. Cooling slowly would probably allow a more gentle rearrangement which is more forgiving at a molecular level on the penile tissues (not what we want). I liken it to pulling/tearing a muscle during exercises which requires the forced contraction (cooling in the case of PE) and lengthening (stretcher in the case of PE) . We want the same thing, on a molecular level.

I have me an idea that I will try after cool down. My ADS is putting a very good stretch on my dick since I add the bars 1 inch over my stretched length, so I get a very good pull. Anyways, after the cool down I will take 1 inch off the ADS and wear it for the rest of the day at a light but stretched pull, so my dick will heal in a stretched state without trying to heal in a turtled state. I will also start trying cool downs after clamping, then I will put the ADS on a light stretch for the rest of the day.


Damn, after jelqing, clamping, and wearing the ADS, that’s almost 7-8 hrs of pe everyday for me. I’m just glad I can wear the ADS at work, otherwise I don’t ever think I would ever gain.


Stock Cock: BPEL 6.187" EG 5.25"

Current: BPEL 7.00" EG 5.5"

Goal: BPEL 8 EG 6 My new goal is now 9" BPEL X 6" EG So I can blow my wife's pussy walls out!

Originally Posted by man-of-10
There are actually studies that would suggest we should avoid the use of heat if using gentle PE exercises with low forces. Heat may in fact make the slight deformation we see during gentle exercises more of an elastic change, rather than a plastic change. We want a plastic change. Because of this, I am not using heat in my current routine, which does not include any high-force/high-pressure and I seem to be gaining girth at a rapid rate.

Link?

^It’s been linked to on Thunders, quite recently I think.


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

If you refer to a study it is generally considered polite to link to it. It’ll be near impossible for me to find, having no idea of the title or words used in it.

Originally Posted by alin

I don’t think a rapid cooling is such a big stimulus for growth, even causing microtears, but maybe you know something more about it. :)

It’s all theory of course, but forcefully disrupting the shortening of soft tissue may create micro-tears within the tissue, a lot like how eccentric training “tears up” muscle tissue.-IMO


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

Originally Posted by boner7484

It’ll be near impossible for me to find…

Tell me about it(: .


Decemeber 2007: 5.8" BPEL x 4.9" MSEG

Current:-------->7.7" BPEL x 5.7" MSEG (7.2" NBPEL)

Current Goal:--->7.6" BPEL X 5.8" MSEG Do or do not, there is no "try".

From my experiences and what I’ve read here on thunders, I’ve found heating up the ligaments makes them less resistant to the stretch. It also helps with lengthening and stretching muscles. This is the reason I like to sit in the dry sauna before I do yoga sessions. It makes a huge difference on how deep I can get into different stretches and poses. It also helps tremendously with the joints most notably the knees. It might be beneficial in a way for bodybuilding, but it just seems contradictory to be used for PE purposes

Originally Posted by petitfaun
Probably not.

The idea is to warm the penis so that it will stretch more easily, thus causing the skin and flesh to stretch with out bruising.

It’s the same reason as warming up before you do sports etc. So it might lead to damage such as a cold and stiff flaccid. and bruising.

Penises and testicles don’t particularly like cold.

That’s not true, for the penis yes. But the testicles actually respond to ice better cause they produce more T levels. Look it up, heat is bad for balls trust me

Originally Posted by man-of-10
There are actually studies that would suggest we should avoid the use of heat if using gentle PE exercises with low forces. Heat may in fact make the slight deformation we see during gentle exercises more of an elastic change, rather than a plastic change. We want a plastic change. Because of this, I am not using heat in my current routine, which does not include any high-force/high-pressure and I seem to be gaining girth at a rapid rate.

So you don’t use any heart before you do any form of PE? I understand you use cold at the end but you don’t use heat at the beginning?

Originally Posted by Reb6790

That’s not true, for the penis yes. But the testicles actually respond to ice better cause they produce more T levels. Look it up, heat is bad for balls trust me

He’s clearly discussing stretching/expansion, where cold is not helpful.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

Originally Posted by ironaddict69
I would either use an ADS afterwords to let it cool back down to body temperature, or do the cold wash cloth. You want it to "freeze" in it’s enlarged, extended state. Heating down after is plain stupid, think about it in depth.

So when you first do your exercise you’re supposed to use heat not ice right? And after your workout you use ice correct? Not sure if you mean ice as a warm up

Originally Posted by Mr. Extender
From my experiences and what I’ve read here on thunders, I’ve found heating up the ligaments makes them less resistant to the stretch. It also helps with lengthening and stretching muscles. This is the reason I like to sit in the dry sauna before I do yoga sessions. It makes a huge difference on how deep I can get into different stretches and poses. It also helps tremendously with the joints most notably the knees. It might be beneficial in a way for bodybuilding, but it just seems contradictory to be used for PE purposes

That makes no sense? So you’re saying heat doesn’t help PE? But you just said a hot sauna helps your yoga? So you use ice before and after PE then right?

Damn dude, we’ve already discussed you resurrecting ancient threads and asking questions of members who haven’t been here for many years, 12 or more in this case. Stop doing this.

Imagine the impression other members get when they see you attack ancient posts of long gone members. Not a good look. If you have a question or concern about older information you have read, pose it as a question to the current members, who have a much higher probability of responding.


Initial: 7” BPEL; 6” NBPEL; 5.25” - 5.5” MEG

Current: 7-7/8” BPEL; 7-3/8” NBPEL; 8.5” BPFSL; 6.5” MEG; 6”x5” Flaccid.

Goal: Improved/consistent EQ while managing ED. Secondary: maintain current stats.

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