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Desperately Seeking Advice

Desperately Seeking Advice

Guys I just need advice. I bought a pump, long before I ever got into reading about PE. I pumped everyday for about ten-fifteen min everyday for a period of about 6 months. I then took a break for a few months, and after reading these forums I purchased an extender. I wore the extender for a period of months, (I never measured to start with so I’m not absolutely sure on if I gained or not but I feel like I did gain a little length) but I didn’t stick to a true schedule, I would miss a few days or week here and there, and I would wear it from 2-3 hours, sometimes four whenever I would wear it. So I went on another few week’s long break, and I then started extending again. I have added stretching it manually to the left and right for a minute each, and I am doing the 5 second jelqs, along with it. (I do about 80 of those after I wear the extender). Now here is my concern, since I didn’t start with a newbie routine, and because I pumped for so long in the past, I am terrified that I have toughened my tunica and am no longer able to obtain length gains, and my BPEL is just short of 5.5. I am losing hope imagining that I have messed up potential gains. Does anyone have anything they could offer me to do? Should I start hanging? I want length, then I can worry about girth. I just don’t know what to do. I greatly appreciate any and every response, I really do.

Don’t lose hope. Take a deep breath and maybe take a breather from PE. You’ve been inconsistent in your routine so I’d have to think you didn’t hurt potential newbie gains. You haven’t pumped or extended much by the sounds of things.

My advice would be to take a couple weeks off and start with the newbie or a modified version to fit your lifestyle and conditioning level. Save the pump and extender for after, say maybe 90 days.

Ok that’s what I Will do. I have the IR lamp, so maybe using that with the newbie routine will get things started. Thank you for replying to me, I really do appreciate it.

It’s almost guaranteed that you will get some results if you wear the extender daily for 4+ hours for some weeks at a good intensity.
If you don’t manage to wear it, cause it surely IS a big hassle, then you should do some manual stretches on these days.
If you extend one day for 5 hours and then do 2 days break doing nothing, the 5 hours were almost done for naught.

I would wear the extender at an intensity where you can wear it for at least 45 minutes straight before restrapping. Do some helicopter stretches in between sets.(to hit different angles) then do another 45-60 minute set.
Then end the day with some manual stretches, edging and maybe jelqs to “fill in” the expansion.

I believe that there is no such thing as “toughening” your tunica to be honest. Once you start with PE your penis has a certain range to gain size depending on which excersize you do with it. After you reach the plateau you can possibly add more advanced techniques to go further that plateau even though after a certain time you will reach the maximum potential of it.

I overtrained hundreds of times during my 6 years of PE because i have a very sensitive unit which could lead to think that my tunica is hard and can’t gain absolutely anything out of it. I never had a single problem like this, i always saw progress, slow and steady and since i recently started clamping the growth has been so far incredible.

If there is one thing that can make you not gain is overtrain and plateau, but taking 1 or 2 months fully off will completly solve this problem, until you ovbiously reach your max potential.

Originally Posted by Accro
I believe that there is no such thing as “toughening” your tunica to be honest. Once you start with PE your penis has a certain range to gain size depending on which excersize you do with it. After you reach the plateau you can possibly add more advanced techniques to go further that plateau even though after a certain time you will reach the maximum potential of it.

I overtrained hundreds of times during my 6 years of PE because i have a very sensitive unit which could lead to think that my tunica is hard and can’t gain absolutely anything out of it. I never had a single problem like this, i always saw progress, slow and steady and since i recently started clamping the growth has been so far incredible.

If there is one thing that can make you not gain is overtrain and plateau, but taking 1 or 2 months fully off will completly solve this problem, until you ovbiously reach your max potential.

The plateau is a consequence of a tougher tunica. Thats why we go on a decon when the gains stop. We hope that the tissues will be back(close) to their pre-PE state without decrease in size.

Enlogation is a result of adaption. But toughening is an adaption too, its unavoidable. The tunica grows both longer and stronger.

It depends on the intensity of the routine. Extenders for example cause the less toughening but the gains are really slow.

Thats why scheduled training is important. For example 3-4 weeks on and 1 week off, or 2 weeks with high tension and 1 week with 50% less intensity. Changes in the time under tension, force and techniques can delay the proccess of toughening, in other words the plateau.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
The plateau is a consequence of a tougher tunica. Thats why we go on a decon when the gains stop. We hope that the tissues will be back(close) to their pre-PE state without decrease in size.

Enlogation is a result of adaption. But toughening is an adaption too, its unavoidable. The tunica grows both longer and stronger.

It depends on the intensity of the routine. Extenders for example cause the less toughening but the gains are really slow.

Thats why scheduled training is important. For example 3-4 weeks on and 1 week off, or 2 weeks with high tension and 1 week with 50% less intensity. Changes in the time under tension, force and techniques can delay the proccess of toughening, in other words the plateau.

The way i responded to the guy post, intended to point out the fact that injuries or overtrain will potentially limit or completly negate the future gains, we were not talking about plateau itself.

Originally Posted by Accro
The way i responded to the guy post, intended to point out the fact that injuries or overtrain will potentially limit or completly negate the future gains, we were not talking about plateau itself.

Yes you are right. I am still on topic i hope.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
Yes you are right. I am still on topic i hope.

Sure you are, don’t worry.

And by the way i made a mistake in the latest post. What i meant to say is that overtraining will not negate or limit any future gains, just takes 2 months fully off to completly put your penis on “reset mode”, what i mean with this is that it will take your tunica back to the initial relaxed state which is optimal for being worked on.

Of course if we are talking about injuries its the same thing, unless of course you mess your penis up with an almost if not permanent injury.

As for your question Rbrockp92 i dont believe that you have toughened your tunica. Dont worry.

If you want length stick with manual stretching.

Ok I absolutely will, take a break, and once I start back I will make sure I am stretching in every sense. Thank you for the replies because it helps being able to have other input. You guys rock

Originally Posted by Rbrockp92

Ok I absolutely will, take a break, and once I start back I will make sure I am stretching in every sense. Thank you for the replies because it helps being able to have other input. You guys rock

Persevere and stay consistent this time. Once you make it a part of your daily routine and you see growth and changes you won’t want to stop.

Originally Posted by Gentlepsychopath
The plateau is a consequence of a tougher tunica. Thats why we go on a decon when the gains stop. We hope that the tissues will be back(close) to their pre-PE state without decrease in size.

Enlogation is a result of adaption. But toughening is an adaption too, its unavoidable. The tunica grows both longer and stronger.

It depends on the intensity of the routine. Extenders for example cause the less toughening but the gains are really slow.

Thats why scheduled training is important. For example 3-4 weeks on and 1 week off, or 2 weeks with high tension and 1 week with 50% less intensity. Changes in the time under tension, force and techniques can delay the proccess of toughening, in other words the plateau.

These are still actually assumptions, right? I mean about the tunica “toughening up.”

Originally Posted by KosmicKastaway

These are still actually assumptions, right? I mean about the tunica “toughening up.”

I’d say it’s an educated guess followed by many men experimenting and coming to the same conclusion.

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