If you're looking for a cheap Penimaster....

A bit of a bargain really. (No, I’m not the one selling it!)

Cheaper option than starting bid.

Cheaper maybe, but not everyone wants to make one. Heck, not everyone CAN make one. I for one wouldnt have the patience…

It’d probably be better to attempt to make one out of toilet paper, than buy a penimaster and think you have PE cracked.

:rolling:

Getting a PM won’t solve your PE problems, but it may help. I use mine after workouts.

What of your gains do you attribute to the PM?

Might you gain as much without?

I checked for your PE stats before asking, but there are none, so I ask in ignorance of gains.

To ram home the point I’m trying to make a little more, Newbies should avoid spending money in the first few months of PE. They may not need to spend any to gain and if they later decide to spend money, by then they’ll have a better idea of what they want.

Can’t say. My flaccid started getting better as a direct result, but as for the erect gains, I may not have gained any. I was gaining before and after using it, so it is hard to tell without extensive research.

That’s possible, but the flaccid was a good side-effect.

The thread based on them? My stats aren’t in there. They use to be in my sig, but since people seemed to disbelieve what I gained, I took them off so they wouldn’t have anything to talk about. Maybe they would move on to something more constructive than calling me a “liar”. :)

I started off 7 x 5.4 and the last time I measured I was 8.9 x 6.7ish.

Very true. I only suggest doing the newbie routine for the first three months for 2 major reasons.

1. A newbie may gain considerably from this alone and doesn’t need any outside help.
2. A newbie shouldn’t be using anything besides the newbie routine because they may not be ready for it.

The flaccid effect might be one that wears off if you stop using the PM. Though generally I think that keeping the penis extended may have some benefit, it’s my opinion at least that keeping a tension under the level where gains can be acheived may actually strengthen the ability of the penis to resist gains.

>The thread based on them?<

It’s harder to comment on someones gains if you don’t know what they’ve got, it might be a sore point. Put your stats here:

Penis Enlargement Statistics Homepage

Available from your name in each post.

Good points on the newbie routine.

To add to that I’ll tell you the devices I bought as a newbie. The Power Jelq (crap, waste of money) and the Bib Hanger. I bought the Bib Hanger because Bib was having one of his closing down sales and despite the sturdy construction, I’ve never liked it. I got better grip more easily from a Hubbard AFB. I’m not a persistent vegetative hanger though, very much never got beyond newbie, and I suppose I’ve only put weeks into trying to get the Bib attached well.

So I have $150+ of PE kit that I never got any gains from.