Incorporating a Lox Inhibitor Into PE

From what I researched, the price of the drug is not as expensive as pointed out on this thread, and theoretically can be obtained, for research purposes only.

Can someone please clarify what’s exactly a human dose? I’m confused, I read many hypothesies!

Thanks

I got the prices from this website, for some reason now we have to contact them for the prices.
Thermofisher.com

It can be found in other websites,

Ideally this would be used topically with less systemic absorption, I’m not sure I can understand why topical has no effect. I guess it fails to deliver drug efficiently to the whole corpus carvenosum. Whereas systemic would go directly through the blood.

Can’t this be injected in ideal areas?

I read of use of the anti lox in human and it would have been pretty obvious if penis size was gained however there’s no mention to be found.

In the experiment it states it was given orally.

Antilox available commercially for humans is just not the same component. And there would be no penis enlargement if you’re not actually applying any method of tunica deformation anyways.

I did try the high vaccuum though, for 1 month. Twice a day in 2 x 5 minutes sets, and I’ve gotten an extra centimeter. Half of that seems to be permanent while the other half might have been to a fuller glans during all that pumping. So there’s that.
Feel free to check my experiment thread on the spanish pumping forum. Just use chatGPT or any other good translation tool to understand. Or you can check my progress pictures, again, in spanish progress forum. I believe the last page of it or the last two pages.

Yes, but oral possesss “much more risk” theoretically. That’s why I wondered if it could be injected and have effect.

As far as I have seen, the antilox used in the study is also commercialized available.

Thanks for your recommendations, will check your thread. No need for translation kisho

Since the rats from the experiment were killed right after it, we don’t know what else could that compound messed up with. I’d wait for a better follow up instead of jumping to become an experiment yourself. What if all rats went blind or some shit like that? Or got heart disease because of muscle tissue deformation? There is literally no effort on that study to analize that kind of data. So I’d recommend just try what worked and is already available (11hg vacuum), and may I remind you it is a painful experience. The tube sticks into your pelvis bone, so those 5 minutes sets seem like hours. But they do pay off.

On the other hand, since the rats were killed just 1 week after the experiment, there is no way to tell if those gains were permanent at all, for losing length on decon breaks often happens after 1 week and can keep on losing up to 2 years later.

On my own experiment, growing 1cm in 4 weeks is quite a lot. Maybe I could have grown 2cm in 2 months, which would have been around a 8-9% growth, if I could bear the pain. And I’m well past the newbie gains so the number is quite impressive compared to every other method out there. With so little time-per-day investment

So I’d recommend you to try this vacuum level, don’t rush it and don’t do extra sets. You’ll only get fluid buildup if you force more sets. And you’ll see if you can bear the pain without spending tons of cash on some expensive chemicals which you don’t know how will affect the rest of your body.

Thanks a lot for your in depth- answer.

I have made extensive research on anti Lox effects. IF there are results, these will be permanent, because the method of action is not simply limited to tunica albuguinea expansion, unlike regular PE.

The only reason why I have not bought this yet is exactly because I cannot fully predict the potential outcomes in the cardiovascular system. There’s a mix of studies gauging how LOX in combination with other compounds/ genetic background can lead to cardiovascular disease. Ideally I’d find a way to protect the heart and veins, perhaps I can use a medication like that and just inject into penis… it will to systemic, certain systemic action IS needed for homogenous growth, but this way you’d limit it to penis to a certain degree.

The phenomenon that anti LOX triggers can be compared to what happens during puberty, however as I said I remain unaware of how the cardiovascular system is protected from muscle tissue overgrowth /tunica expansion while the penis specifically keeps growing. Maybe androgens have to do with this with cardiovascular protection yet sexual dimorphism devolopment… maybe that’s the reason why big dick people might have more vascularity too.

It was 18% gain with vacuum and LOX. 4 weeks. An extender could be used to push to 25%… also I have a lot of compounds in mind to use to trigger celullar growth. I’m uncertain if 1 month can really have such negative effect in human…

Is there a way to apply this to the penis. Some sort of hydrogen to deliver it into the corpus carvenosum, I could do clamping to keep the compound in the penis, also I dont know the molecular weight for this to travel, maybe it remains bound in the corpus carvenosum.

I have many questions… but I’m willing to try. And I will.

The study was performed on an 8 week span, not 4.
The rats were killed on week 9, so we cannot state that the growth was permanent.
It lasted 1 week after the experiment. That does not mean it was permament. Just from the vacuum for so long, your dick will need at least 4 days to expell all the fluid buildup. So that leaves just 3 days of true decon until the rats were killed. So the statement “permament” is not bound to any scientific fact. Keep that in mind.

Corpum cavernosum is filled with blood when erect, but when it deflates the blood goes elsewhere I to the body, so that would not be the place to apply, for it would go into the rest of the body in a few minutes. If anything, an application should aim at the tunica itself. But how would you make it even on all the surface? 100 injections per application all over the dick? Ouch. Everyday for 2 months? Ouch ouch ouch.

Too much hassle. And too much pain involved. And those incisions will prevent you from going high vacuum since you’ll bleed to death under 11hg for you have no time to heal.

Again, start with high vacuum alone and bear in mind that even without the injections, you might find bleeding ocurring at those vacuum levels, so you’ll have to give it a rest day or two.

8% in 2 months, then from that new size an 8% in other two months, keeping it up to 6 months and you’ll be around 26% bigger, without all the hassle.

One other thing to note, is that the real growth on rats was of 5 to 8mm in that time period. So you cannot really expect to grow 26% of your dick size with the same experiment during that timeframe. You can expect similar results in milimeters. So there’s that.

Cells have a limit.

Thanks for all your imput.

The reason why I say the growth is permanent is because the studies I saw measured organ weight. If you double or triple organ weight we can assume that celullar growth has taken place. Otherwise what else can it be attributed to? From there I hypothesize that it’s not possible to reverse this celullar growth by ceassing treatment. Lox has a very different method of action and it’s not limited to tunica albuguinea.

My concern here is, how does this apply to human? What you said is a valid concern. It could be the same, it could be not. I admit I do not have enough knowledge to make a statement. I also consider compounds to force celullar growth in order to target that limit you talk about BUT these are rather expensive and I don’t have anything set in stone.

Does anyone know anything about YAP signaling? I do not see any info on the forum…

Can someone confirm if this is right?

I’ve seen studies of 1 gram orally daily in humans for 21 days. Why was none of this reported? Is 1gm too low also?

According to the metrics I made 106mg should make biological effect after 8 weeks. But 1gm is 9 times the dose and 21 days is 3 weeks…

Can someone clarify?

Truth is, I tried an experiment doing only the vacuum thing.
My experiment lasted 1 month, as opposed to the 2 month period done in the rats experiments.
What I got was around 1,5cm (that’s around 8% increase). What is not described in this experiment with LOX in rats is that if given more time (they killed the rats 1 week after ending the experiment. Swelling is still lingering after that period), the gains would be lost. Not totally lost, but you do lose part of it.
Had I done the experiment for another month, maybe I would have reached a 15% increase. I wouldn’t know. And I didn’t need lox
Messing with that kind of pressures is painful AF in the base, even with a nice padding, the cylinder just feels like it will cut the flesh into the pelvic bone. So I felt it was not worth the pain. Then I took measurements and thought, well maybe it is worth the pain but I’m still getting good gains with hanger so I’ll keep hanging which is way way way less uncomfortable even if it takes way more daytime.
Ok, so after 15 days off the experiment, measure was down to 0,7cm gain. So I lost a tad more than half of what I "gained". I woudln’t know if I’d lose it all because I quickly went into hanging again.

The log of the experiment is on my threads, but it’s in spanish.
Stay away from drugs that will fuck up your heart. Those will… Well… Fuck up your heart. Big red flag.

Thank you for you experience impressive results.

En uno de Los estudios que encountre las ratas todavia mantenian el tamaño despues de 1 semana.

De todos modos, el metodo de funcion de Lox NO es el de simplemente alargar la tunica. Va mucho mas alla. Si tu pene crece naturalmente en la pubertad, sabes que no se encojera.

Quisiera saber si puedo en su lugar injector este componente en el corpus carvenosum. Podria mezclarlo con PRP pero no se si se distribuira de forma homogenea…

What is the oral dose that I have to use? I see many metrics from 0.16 multiplication to many others. I am unsure what to follow for certain….

Thank u

Well if I were you, before entering the hassle of getting the anti-lox, dosing, injecting, etc. I would get a good manual vacuum with manometer and a decent 3mm wall width cylinder should work. And start doing the pumping routine alone. Just don’t make my mistakes and maybe make 2 longer sets (7 minutes each) in the morning, 2 in the afternoon, using the first 2 minutes to gradually pump up to around 8hg. If that feels ok, maybe try out a bit higher but not higher than 11,5hg. You don’t want to burst your dick. Just make it longer gradually. Right?

Tip: use good base padding for if not the pain will be unbearable.

Try doing it for 1 week, see if you can take it. Again, high pressure might feel not so nice. And the mental effort to put that painful thing again on the willy is big enough to discourage even the most brave men. This is probably the reason they used anesthesia on the rats. But I wouldn’t venture on anesthesia for you need to feel in order to spot any trouble before it becomes critical.
As said before, we just want a bigger willy, not a blown up one.