Length Gains

I want to know how to gain girth at the base of my penis, because is kind of a baseball bait shape.

I don’t have so much time on Tuesday an Friday, so my PE days are Saturday-Sunday (on), Monday (off), Tuesday-Wednesday(on), Thursday-Friday(off), what do you recommend? 24 hours rest or 48 hours rest??

And every time I’m doing the jelqs my penis get erect, so I have to wait a little bit to start again the jelqs. What I’m doing wrong? Is normal to get erect at 90%-100% doing the jelqs? I’m trying to gain length so I star with my penis at 60%.

Hanging is usually the best way to gain base girth, but it’s too early for you to get into that yet; save it for the future. You may well get some base girth from just stretching.

My favourite routine was Friday and Saturday more intense PE, Sunday off, Monday and Tuesday lighter PE concentrating on time rather than force, Wednesday and Thursday off, apart from piss-pulls and a cock ring. I think it’s fine to mix 24 and 48 hours rest.

At the moment, your penis will think every time you touch it you are going to masturbate, because that’s what it’s used to. It will learn that jelqing isn’t masturbating and will adapt. If it doesn’t, then masturbate a bit before doing your PE - it isn’t ideal but should work as a short term solution.

Thanks for your respond, and do you have any advices for a beginner? What kind of lubricant is good for example?

Someone else PM’d me for a length routine earlier; they also had good girth, but were struggling for length. I rarely do routines for individuals, but I did in this case. This is what I suggested; it may work well for you also. (Reply slightly modified to not identify original recipient).

First of all, you need to stick to a consistent routine. As you have ‘X’ months of PE, I suggest 2 on 1 off, 3 on 1 off, to make a 7 day week.

You have good girth, so heating is important. Get some hot/cold gel packs from your local drugstore (chemist) and use them over a damp tea towel or similar (t shirt material etc.). Get your penis well warmed through before you start, and keep warming it during your routine by putting the gel pack back on when you cool off too much.

Use toilet paper for a good grip. Stretch to what you feel is as long as you can make your penis, (don’t use more strength than is needed to get max length, but use enough to make sure you cannot get any more length), then mentally try to relax into the stretch. When the feeling of stretch becomes less, increase the stretch slightly until you feel you are at max possible length again. Concentrate on your breathing, and really try to feel your penis relaxing into the stretch on each out breath.

Spend 50%-60% of your time on straight down stretching, and spread the rest between the other angles (Imagining a compass, I work S {straight down}, N, E, W, SE, SW, NE, NW + straight out).

I can’t tell you how long to stretch for: you are finished when you don’t feel you can get any further feeling of stretch - when you feel your penis has reached a ‘dead stop’ with all the angles. Usually takes between 10 and 20 minutes.

When you have worked all the angles, make sure you are warm and do your jelqs. Do 50.

After you have done your 50 jelqs, do another 5 minutes stretching just doing straight down and either side of that (SE and SW).

Then do another 50 jelqs. You don’t need girth, so the jelqs are just to help stimulate elasticity in the tissues and get fresh, oxygenated blood deep into the tissues you have worked.

You don’t absolutely need to warm down after, but try to do light fowfers when you can on work-out days.

Keep to that for 2 weeks, then every week or 2, if your PI’s are OK, add a little extra stretch time and a few more jelqs.

Keep accurate BP measurements, and check them once a month.

When gains slow or stop, reduce your routine by one third for 2 weeks, then take a three week deconditioning break. Start again from the beginning.

Try it and see if it feels right for you. And please report back. :)

Hi all,

This is my first post on here, and I’m asking for any help and advice.

I’ve been following the Newbie Routine for just over 2 months now, and have seen some good gains in Girth, but not much in length.

Currently I measure 6.5” erect with a 5.5” girth.

My girth has improved very quickly with this routine, but my length has hardly changed.

My current routine is

5min Hot wrap
20 30sec basic stretches, followed by 4 rotary stretches
100 jelqs 50 jelq squeeze 50 normal jelqs holding for a little longer near the glans
5min hot wrap
Kegels throughout the day

What modifications can I make to increase my length gains, and also my head size gains. I’m quite happy with my girth at the moment.

Many thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions

KenAdams5

I’ve been doing JAI stretches (a slight variation of where I hold longer and harder for one more second - after the 2 second relaxation to maximum length to avoid kickback - once I feel my penis extend past the kickback reflex) and I’ve only gained a little bit less 1/8” BPEL in 3 weeks while my flaccid length has increased a lot more and so has my flaccid girth, which seems to be growing a lot doing 15-20min jelq. I honestly expected more gains because I do Active Isolated Stretching for the rest of my body and I know how powerful they can be. The only thing is, with these stretches, there is no real muscle to activate to free up the penis to expand… for example: if you want to stretch the hamstring you activate the quads, if you want to stretch the bicep you activate the triceps, etc. I’ve activated my pelvic floor doing these stretches and it’s given me great blood flow/activation for my whole core, but I haven’t felt the same type of release in my penis that I would normally feel with other parts of my body that I was trying to stretch. So, I just kind of pull in my stomach a bit (not to flex my abs really so much just as to do it and be in rhythm) and pull out my penis gently for 2 seconds until it’s maxed out, then it releases further, so I pull harder for a little over 1 second and let it back in to move onto the next rep. .

I just got the mechanics/rhythm of this down very recently as I was trying to activate different muscles and stuff to help the stretch, but this is what feels best to me doing a JAI stretch. I was doing only Straight Out, but just yesterday I added Straight Down, SE, SW, and East, West along with pulling straight out.

1) Are you familiar with the JAI stretch and do you have anything to comment on my technique that might help me? I’m asking because I really believe in these stretches and I don’t want to move on but I want gains more than I believe in the stretching method.

2) I’m considering switching routines to pretty much exactly what you posted in your post about length gains. I know you say you cannot say how long to pull, but what is the average you have in mind to get full, relaxed extension before you start the next rep? 30 seconds? 1 minute? And you find a lot of benefit from stretching N/NE/NW ? As far as doing more work for the Straight Down stretch, does that mean, if you did 1 minute stretches, you would recommend 8 1 minute stretches Straight Down in a row, then 1 stretch in each other angle?

Thanks so much!

Someone else PM’d me for a length routine earlier; they also had good girth, but were struggling for length. I rarely do routines for individuals, but I did in this case. This is what I suggested; it may work well for you also. (Reply slightly modified to not identify original recipient).

First of all, you need to stick to a consistent routine. As you have ‘X’ months of PE, I suggest 2 on 1 off, 3 on 1 off, to make a 7 day week.

You have good girth, so heating is important. Get some hot/cold gel packs from your local drugstore (chemist) and use them over a damp tea towel or similar (t shirt material etc.). Get your penis well warmed through before you start, and keep warming it during your routine by putting the gel pack back on when you cool off too much.

Use toilet paper for a good grip. Stretch to what you feel is as long as you can make your penis, (don’t use more strength than is needed to get max length, but use enough to make sure you cannot get any more length), then mentally try to relax into the stretch. When the feeling of stretch becomes less, increase the stretch slightly until you feel you are at max possible length again. Concentrate on your breathing, and really try to feel your penis relaxing into the stretch on each out breath.

Spend 50%-60% of your time on straight down stretching, and spread the rest between the other angles (Imagining a compass, I work S {straight down}, N, E, W, SE, SW, NE, NW + straight out).

I can’t tell you how long to stretch for: you are finished when you don’t feel you can get any further feeling of stretch - when you feel your penis has reached a ‘dead stop’ with all the angles. Usually takes between 10 and 20 minutes.

When you have worked all the angles, make sure you are warm and do your jelqs. Do 50.

After you have done your 50 jelqs, do another 5 minutes stretching just doing straight down and either side of that (SE and SW).

Then do another 50 jelqs. You don’t need girth, so the jelqs are just to help stimulate elasticity in the tissues and get fresh, oxygenated blood deep into the tissues you have worked.

You don’t absolutely need to warm down after, but try to do light fowfers when you can on work-out days.

Keep to that for 2 weeks, then every week or 2, if your PI’s are OK, add a little extra stretch time and a few more jelqs.

Keep accurate BP measurements, and check them once a month.

When gains slow or stop, reduce your routine by one third for 2 weeks, then take a three week deconditioning break. Start again from the beginning.

Try it and see if it feels right for you. And please report back. :)

Hello firegoat, could i have some advice? I m sorry for my english but i m not a native speaker. Right know i m working on this way:

10 ’ stretching (6’ straight down, 6 rep 1’ each one. Then 30” sec to the others angles)

50 jelq

5 min stretching ( 5 rep 1’ each one, 2’ straight down, 1’se, 1’sw)

What do you think about the way I built the stretching part ? Could be ok ?

And the the last thing, if my PI are ok how much can I increase the stretch and the jelq ? I ve to remain in the range 10’/20’?

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide !

Active isolated stretches work well for other muscles as they engage the reciprocal inhibition principle - they cause the antagonistic muscle to relax enabling the agonist to be stretched further without ‘fighting it’s opposing muscle groups’. The penis doesn’t work that way and you’re not really trying to stretch the smooth muscle within it - you are stretching collagenous tissue - the attaching ligaments, the walls of the corpora and the tunica. JAI is still a useful approach, but 1 minute to 90 second stretches are most likely more effective. What I woudl suggest is do the JAIs first to maximally extend the tissues, then use slightly lighter 60-90 second held stretches.

Your gains already seem fairly rapid; I don’t think you will speed them up much.

I keep the N/NE/NW stretches fairly gentle and focus on relaxing the pelvic floor, as that is more what is being stretched - it’s more for health than length gains.
Yes, your 8 down, 1 each other direction is fine.

Firegoat, would you say that 1min to 90 sec stretches are significantly more effective than 30 second stretches?

Have I been wasting my time doing only 30 seconds per direction?

Hey Richard. For most people I’d say 30 seconds is around the minimum effective amount of time, but that 60-90 seconds would be better.
If you consider that it may take 10-15 seconds for the tissue to relax into the stretch, and that only having done so is it actually stretching, then the 30 second stretch is effectively only really a 15-20 second stretch. Don’t take the numbers too literally, but look at the principle I’m trying to explain with them.