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Most START PE members over 7 inches? Wtf?

Originally Posted by brainhans
That is just not true.
In fact according to Thundersplace PE Database Statistical Analysis
80% of members here started below 7”. Fewer than in the real world but you know, self measurements, internet stats, selection bias..

Ahhh thank you. This is what I was really looking for. I’ve been going by my personal observations. When you see people’s posts at the bottom you’ll see their START , CURRENT, and GOAL stats and I usually noticed people starting at 7 which made me question “wtf?”

For me, PE is not ONLY about size, it’s about knowing myself and my very precious member, about having a healthy sex life, and being the best lover I can be, and being sexually satisfied, and satisfying my partner.

I pump regularly because I believe it benefits me in all those areas. Just wanting a bigger dick makes people impatient and careless and prone to injury

Originally Posted by kingscounty
For someone brand new to the forum you come across as bit disrespectful. We’ve put a lot of time and energy into this place so maybe get the chip off your shoulder and read the forum. Chill out with the attitude towards us.

Do guys lie? Yes and shame on them for it. It helps no one when you lie about size or routines.

Why do guys start PE when they’re already at 7 inches? Most likely insecurities. Porn has destroyed a lot guys perception on size.

You proved exactly my point. Now where is the disrespect part of my post. Maybe you are the one with reading comprehension problem.

Originally Posted by Tbgame

You proved exactly my point. Now where is the disrespect part of my post. Maybe you are the one with reading comprehension problem.

I think maybe he was talking about the OP. Might be wrong, I can only guess. I don’t think there’s much that could be interpreted as disrespectful. The first few posts by Goku’specs could be interpreted as hostile, at least in certain parts. Let’s not get into a big argument over what we interpret as someone’s “tone” when we can’t actually hear it. It’s easy to inject our own take on how something was meant, rather than just reading what is there.

Originally Posted by raybbaby
I think maybe he was talking about the OP. Might be wrong, I can only guess. I don’t think there’s much that could be interpreted as disrespectful. The first few posts by Goku’specs could be interpreted as hostile, at least in certain parts. Let’s not get into a big argument over what we interpret as someone’s “tone” when we can’t actually hear it. It’s easy to inject our own take on how something was meant, rather than just reading what is there.

I guess I could have asked “nicer” but I still believe I made a very good point.. From my perspective.

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
Cock conspiracy, the average is actually 7 and all the studies that come out just say it is 5.5 to make small guys feel better so they don’t go postal.

Seriously though.

Back when the database was public - with 14 years of data - the rolling average for starting length of TP members was 6.0” and it never deviated by more than 0.15”. The reason the TP starting average is above the scientific study stats is that some people’s starting stats here include previous PE, and because it’s self reported and some guys read the ruler with favorable eye angles.

I don’t think anybody would ever intentionally lie about the size of their penis.

Very true for myself well stopping and starting and not recording stats correctly….I started below 16.5 cm I’m currently 18.5 cm BUT I cemented 17cm in my first bout of PE so my progress report here will state that as my starting stats. I’ve actually gained more than my stats would suggest.

Originally Posted by Tbgame

You proved exactly my point. Now where is the disrespect part of my post. Maybe you are the one with reading comprehension problem.

What the hell are you talking about? I was referring to the OP.

Tensions run high and it’s easy to be mad about having a small penis. That’s why the government want us to think the average is lower. It used to be 6x5, now it’s 5.5 x 4.5 just wait another 15 years it will be 5x4. A man confident in the size is a happy contented man, a sociable man that is good for society and for women. For now it’s easy to get to average with PE. In the future it will be even easier. So take all that pent up small dicked frustration and use it on the field. Use it as motivation. Scoring is easy with the right focus and mindset.

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Cock has just as much power as pussy and small ones are just as strong but if it takes getting huge for some to realize that then so be it. Many of us started this hobby with our doubts and even perhaps a sense of betrayal at how this practice is kept so secret and stigmatized. A finger is big enough yet somehow we are taught this shame about penis size. It doesn’t take long for this practice to start working and for that initial angst to turn into the joy of winning the cock lottery. And then from years for that joy to evolve into a cock confidence.

When you pass 12 cubic inches volume, 6x5, or even start beyond that level, everything else is gravy.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

Originally Posted by BeardedDragon
When you pass 12 cubic inches volume, 6x5, or even start beyond that level, everything else is gravy.

Why 6x5?


PhoenixNow Progress Reports

Started August 2018: BPEL/MEG 5.7" x 5" - Now: 6.1" x 5.25" BEG: 6.25"

Goal: BPEL/MEG 8.5" x 6.5"

Anyone at or above average volume has no reason for size to undermine their confidence, and every reason for it to be a source of confidence.


Before 5.5" x 4.1" ///////// Now 7.4" x 4.9"

I don’t post a lot, but your thread is related to people like myself so I thought I would give my perspective and maybe that will help you understand some of us - although I can’t speak for anyone else.

I am at a starting size over 7” in length and a little bigger than 5.5” girth. I have always had contradictory feelings related to my penis size. On one hand, at times I thought perhaps I was big or at least bigger than average, but at most other times I have lacked confidence about it. I had most of the women that I have been with tell me a range of things. From one women an unflattering “well don’t feel bad, it’s not that you’re not small, it’s just my ex-fiancé was really big by comparison” - ouch! Almost all the other ones made flattering comments either to me or to a mutual friend about me. Another one or two said nothing at all. My wife told me before we got married that I was the thickest she had been with, but not the longest. I tended to discount most if not all the good comments and gave the most weight to the silence or the “I’ve had bigger” two women.
Perhaps it’s because my whole life I have been a small guy. I am as an adult only 5’7” at best and 160lbs. Growing up the world shows you bigger is better. I got bullied by bigger guys. The girls dated all the taller guys. I saw porn from a very young age. I saw myself as small in so many ways. Right or wrong that’s how I saw/see it.
I got into powerlifting I suppose because if I couldn’t grow taller I would at least get bigger and stronger.
When I sought to find out the “truth” about my penis size, I went to the internet to see where I really stood. I didn’t trust all the good comments I had been given and obsessed over the fact that my wife had had a bigger one than mine. She told me all our married life that I was big, well-endowed, large etc but her words that she had a longer one still haunted me. Why do I need to be the biggest? Like I said. It probably goes all the way back to childhood. I am typically a grower and not a shower too. That didn’t help my perception and confidence when I saw showers in the locker room.
When I read the comments like the thread about 5.5” being pretty damn big and saw stats on several of the sites that specialize in that. I half believed I was much larger than average and half didn’t. I was drawn to thunders because it gave me hope that I could become big enough that even I would begin to truly believe it. The guys here are so accepting, supportive and positive no matter where you start or where you are going. They even seemed to understand me and many of the bigger guys shared the same self doubts and lack of confidence in spite of statistically large sizes.
I have been reluctant at times to post being cognizant that others here were starting from a much smaller size than me and not wanting to sound like an insensitive jerk, but at the same time reluctant to acknowledge that my start size is quite good already because so many of the guys are so much bigger than me with or without PE that I didn’t want to seem too self confident because I know I am far from the biggest. So that’s why I am typically a bit of a “read and study and get inspired by the bigger guys” kind of member.
I haven’t been able to summon the confidence that I probably should have on my own, so that’s why I am here at thunders despite a starting size over 7”. Please just seek the wisdom here and enjoy the brotherhood of all the guys that are here for the same reasons you and I are - regardless of starting size. They want to help us so we can all feel better about ourselves and that’s a great thing.
Welcome and please don’t be too hung up on where people are starting or you will miss out on all the great stuff and reaching your goals.


Start: 2/1/19 7.5" BPEL, 5.75" MSEG

Current: 7.875" BPEL, 6.0 MSEG

Goal: 8.75" BPEL, 8.00" NBPEL, 6.68" MSEG

Originally Posted by IsItBig
I don’t post a lot, but your thread is related to people like myself so I thought I would give my perspective and maybe that will help you understand some of us - although I can’t speak for anyone else.

I am at a starting size over 7” in length and a little bigger than 5.5” girth. I have always had contradictory feelings related to my penis size. On one hand, at times I thought perhaps I was big or at least bigger than average, but at most other times I have lacked confidence about it. I had most of the women that I have been with tell me a range of things. From one women an unflattering “well don’t feel bad, it’s not that you’re not small, it’s just my ex-fiancé was really big by comparison” - ouch! Almost all the other ones made flattering comments either to me or to a mutual friend about me. Another one or two said nothing at all. My wife told me before we got married that I was the thickest she had been with, but not the longest. I tended to discount most if not all the good comments and gave the most weight to the silence or the “I’ve had bigger” two women.
Perhaps it’s because my whole life I have been a small guy. I am as an adult only 5’7” at best and 160lbs. Growing up the world shows you bigger is better. I got bullied by bigger guys. The girls dated all the taller guys. I saw porn from a very young age. I saw myself as small in so many ways. Right or wrong that’s how I saw/see it.
I got into powerlifting I suppose because if I couldn’t grow taller I would at least get bigger and stronger.
When I sought to find out the “truth” about my penis size, I went to the internet to see where I really stood. I didn’t trust all the good comments I had been given and obsessed over the fact that my wife had had a bigger one than mine. She told me all our married life that I was big, well-endowed, large etc but her words that she had a longer one still haunted me. Why do I need to be the biggest? Like I said. It probably goes all the way back to childhood. I am typically a grower and not a shower too. That didn’t help my perception and confidence when I saw showers in the locker room.
When I read the comments like the thread about 5.5” being pretty damn big and saw stats on several of the sites that specialize in that. I half believed I was much larger than average and half didn’t. I was drawn to thunders because it gave me hope that I could become big enough that even I would begin to truly believe it. The guys here are so accepting, supportive and positive no matter where you start or where you are going. They even seemed to understand me and many of the bigger guys shared the same self doubts and lack of confidence in spite of statistically large sizes.
I have been reluctant at times to post being cognizant that others here were starting from a much smaller size than me and not wanting to sound like an insensitive jerk, but at the same time reluctant to acknowledge that my start size is quite good already because so many of the guys are so much bigger than me with or without PE that I didn’t want to seem too self confident because I know I am far from the biggest. So that’s why I am typically a bit of a “read and study and get inspired by the bigger guys” kind of member.
I haven’t been able to summon the confidence that I probably should have on my own, so that’s why I am here at thunders despite a starting size over 7”. Please just seek the wisdom here and enjoy the brotherhood of all the guys that are here for the same reasons you and I are - regardless of starting size. They want to help us so we can all feel better about ourselves and that’s a great thing.
Welcome and please don’t be too hung up on where people are starting or you will miss out on all the great stuff and reaching your goals.

This is very well said and welcome to Thunders, based on your starting date.

Your starting stats are definitely great and I understand why you want them larger!

A goal of 9.25 x 6.5 is a very valid “I have the biggest dick in the room and I KNOW IT!” size :-)

You are SO right

Originally Posted by Robert James
This is very well said and welcome to Thunders, based on your starting date.

Your starting stats are definitely great and I understand why you want them larger!

A goal of 9.25 x 6.5 is a very valid “I have the biggest dick in the room and I KNOW IT!” size :-)

Thanks RJ! I picked 9.25” because I wanted to be 8-8.5” NBP. And with a girth of 6.5” - which I personally feel is huge. If I can hit these targets then even I will FINALLY believe it myself 100% and have no more worries. It’s terrible to think this way but I haven’t been able to shake it. My wife and I have been married for over 25 years and I STILL am haunted by the specter of the 9” she said she experienced and measured in college because she was so impressed with her boyfriend.


Start: 2/1/19 7.5" BPEL, 5.75" MSEG

Current: 7.875" BPEL, 6.0 MSEG

Goal: 8.75" BPEL, 8.00" NBPEL, 6.68" MSEG

Originally Posted by IsItBig
Thanks RJ! I picked 9.25” because I wanted to be 8-8.5” NBP. And with a girth of 6.5” - which I personally feel is huge. If I can hit these targets then even I will FINALLY believe it myself 100% and have no more worries. It’s terrible to think this way but I haven’t been able to shake it. My wife and I have been married for over 25 years and I STILL am haunted by the specter of the 9” she said she experienced and measured in college because she was so impressed with her boyfriend.

I get it, I absolutely do.

My target is quite similar to yours and for somewhat similar reasons.

I hope we both get there brother, that would be awesome!

Originally Posted by IsItBig
I picked 9.25” because I wanted to be 8-8.5” NBP. And with a girth of 6.5” - which I personally feel is huge. If I can hit these targets then even I will FINALLY believe it myself 100% and have no more worries.

This is it in a nutshell for me, numbers and reasoning. It is why I keep at it and why many of us keep at it, I imagine.

Which is why the OP sees us in very high percentiles still doing Penis Enlargement and it is baffling to him.


Now: 9" BPEL x 6.25" MSEG as of 11/10/2019 This is my story, a few progress pics of me here, and all my methods.

Then: 6.25" x 4.37" in 8/2009 Are you new to PE? Here's some advice I wish someone had given me when I first started.

My Extender and forward to 10" and balls enhancement project. There is no "Holy Grail" of Penis Enlargement. Only time and effort works. I'm *10* years in and counting. All you have to do is put the work in and keep the faith.

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