Please Rate My First Plan

Been lurking on here for about 8 months, but as a college student I haven’t had much privacy so have not been able to do any PE routine. I did the newbie routine for about 5 days with no issue but then the lack of privacy made me give up on it.

From here on out I will have a lot more privacy, and want to begin PE. After reading through a lot of posts about manual routines, hanging, extenders, and the Hanging with FIRe thread, it seems that the way to go for maximum gains would to skip the manual newbie routine and only use PE techniques where there is quantifiable strain on my member.

I understand that PE takes a lot of time, and my goal is to get the most gains for the least effort and time commitment.

Currently: ~6.6 in BPFSL, 6.1 in BPEL. Short Term Goal: 7 in NBPEL. Long Term Goal: 8 in NBPEL.
Don’t have girth measurements currently and main goal is length, my girth seems to be proportional though and once satisfactory length gains have been made I will start on girth.

Given all of this, here is the draft for my plan. Open to suggestions on anything, if you see any problems or areas for improvement let me know. Taking a lot of inspiration from the Hanging With FIRe post.

My Plan:
Purchase a Vac Hanger kit and a heating pad. Plan on doing a lot of taping and every precautionary measure in order to avoid blistering or unwanted skin stretching.

Weeks 1-4: aim to hang one hour per day, 3x20 minute sets, with 30 minutes of heat applied. Will move up to 4x20 if capable and then will slowly start adding weight. Hope to see some growth in this period but will be playing it very conservatively, rest days whenever I feel like it, in order to avoid injuries and feel it out. I understand the risks associated and will not be over zealous during this period.

Weeks 4-8: Transition into doing 1x60 min and a 1x20min, and if comfortable eventually into 2x1hr. Still aiming to apply heat for the middle half of any set. At this point hoping to begin to create gains and put some noticeable stretch into the penis. Will continue to increase weight.

Weeks 8-onward: 2x1hr sets with heat, 20 min set before bed if wanting to do split sets. I likely will never do more than 2 hours a day since I have social and school obligations. Plan to over time ramp up the weight further with the 2x1hr sets.

Rinse and repeat, will only take rest days if I feel significant fatigue or suffer an injury, also I don’t plan on deconning for a while as it seems not deconning yeilds better results. Ill be taking measurements every week to track how effective the routines are.

Questions:
1. I have heard about split sets and am wondering how much of an impact they have on gains. Any info about this would be appreciated, might reduce total hanging time and integrate the split sets if it gives the same result.
2. I have seen a lot of discourse regarding ligament vs tunica/shaft stretching, and am wondering which of these I should target and angles I should hang at over time in order to maximize gains.
3. Would it be beneficial to purchase a vac seal extender and wear that for a couple hours a day on top of hanging? Wouldn’t go a high weight, would do just enough of a stretch to keep penis lengthened with the hopes of it deforming into the stretched state.
4. As long as no injuries occur from hanging, is it likley to make the penis more sensitive to pain during sex?
5. Would it be safer or more effective to begin with an extender but apply the same weight, time, and heat as hanging? And then switch over to hanging once I reach the weight capacity.

Any comments, suggestions, or questions are appreciated. Hoping to order my supplies soon and get started on hanging before Christmas.

Every since I’ve began PE, I have found that having a strong pelvic floor goes far and aids in my sexual control. Kegels have gotten my stamina and threshold to expand as gains roll in. Blood flow/circulation during PE sessions has allowed me gains of length, thickness, and girth. Just saying, kegels enhance my experience. Hope this helps, let us tread good and well on our endeavors.

-At a pace,
MarkTwain36

+1 Mark with Kegels

There is a lot here rookie let me advise on some things. Your plan is at a 4 right now. The way to get it to a 10 is below. I am very happy for your detailed question, any other lurker reading this should note the effort you have already made to research all this and ask many questions.

1. Throw out any growth goals for the first 6 months to a year, set some objectives
2. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Start slow, like super SLOW. You have like an 8-week plan, and that newbie routine is 8-9 weeks min. This is PE for life, I have another post on that. Why not PE for life? Bodybuilder mindset
3. I have jelq’d for 12-16 months in my total PE career but I stopped for a long time, meaning to say, I just started water pumping. Doing anything other than jelq for the first 6 months I don’t recommend, you have to lurk and read and read and see what is best for you.
4. Just buy the heat pad, I use the NIR+RED pad, no hanging yet, what are you doing jumping into it that fast with hanging?
5. I use coconut oil, that is my 2 cents but some other don’t like it, I have a few posts on that
6. You said you did newbie routine for 5 days? Come back with this post when you are 6 months in!
7. I had no girth goals when I started, many here never did, and guess what, after some time, we all wanted them, be realistic now, you are getting girth if you want it or not. How much is up to you!
8. My 2 cents: Start jelq> then after 3-6 months start ULIs> After 6-9 months water pumping > Clamping and hanging not sure yet as I have yet to do that, but would not even consider until after 9 months min.

There is no skipping, there are no maximum gains, and there is no strain on your member. You are in college, you got to get wiser, I remember college like it was yesterday, life happens and you are in your mid 40’s. Take the long game. I recommend you look at all the videos from Courtney Ryan, right now PE is the long game and you should be working on being a 10 stud.

Thank you for the response, I have a couple answers and some more questions.

Above all else when it comes to addressing your concerns to this plan, I want to clarify that I intend on taking it very slow for the first couple of weeks. My plan may seam zealous but I plan on listening to what my body tells me, starting with weights as low as a couple ounces and being very observant of how I feel and react.

3. After reading a lot it seems that maintaining a jelqing routine for that long would be challenging for me. EQ, Varying force from my hands, and having to activley jelq for potentially more than 30 minutes at a time sounds like a recipie for inconsistency and annoyance. The reason that hanging appealed to me much more than any manual stretches is because I can do things like study, handle online/otp errands etc. At the same time as my PE. It is much more flexible once I have my routine established. By lurking and reading and reading I have noticed the aforementioned.
4. The heating pad would not only increase results, it would decrease my chance of injury, so I will def be getting it.
7. I have no problem with more girth, just not my explicit goal.

Overall I just want to stress that caution will be the primary dictator of my plan and the choice of hanging, when applied with caution, seems to be the best lifestyle compatible PE method.

I do appreciate the long game, however I have less than 10 years left of true youth and would love to make the most of it while I can. I plan on doing things to accelerate my short term growth, but am very careful to at the same time make sure I’m not jeaprodizing long term health and growth. Also, isnt the entire premise of PE to put strain on your member? Wether it be lig or tunica.

I suggest easing very slowly into vacuum hanging. A lot of guys on here are very prone to glans blisters even at a low vacuum. It seems that once you start to get blisters, it happens more and more often. I started with a vacuum ADS as a totally untrained newbie. Using low tension and gradually increasing time, I never had any blisters.

5.5 squared did a great job laying out the hanging with FIRe routine. If you follow that program, you will get results. You just have to make sure you start light and slow. I think hanging for an hour as an unconditioned PE’er on day one is a mistake.

You could wear the vacuum hanger as an ADS for a few weeks, or start at hanging for 10 minutes with 1 pound and add a little time each day. Get a feel for how to put it on and how it’s supposed to feel and NOT feel.

If you must hang as a newbie, remember that staying as light as possible with continued gains is the goal!

+1Hill

If you are not going to jelq you have to do the SUPER-SUPER long game with hanging. The reason I recommend the jelq is that you know your body more, you know it’s limits and everything. This is a yoda thing, do or do not. If you can multi-task, great! but don’t choose something because you can multi-task. Get it?

The reason I am concerned is that you wrote the words: flexible, appealing, time, maximum gains, skip the manual newbie routine and quantifiable strain. All those words are dangerous for newbies.

Why I don’t like the word Strain: "a force tending to pull or stretch something to an extreme or damaging degree." This is a topic that only VETS can talk about.

I hope I don’t sound too Dad-like, it’s just that this is the advice I would give my 21-year-old self. I have been in your shoes, I did think at once think I would just wear an AD and all my problems would be solved because I can wear it at work and no one would know.

You can’t think of convenience at all with PE, this is incredibly inconvenient.

How much time would you say you used the extender for, and what kind of gains did you see with the newbie routine or all day.

Thank you for the advice, you’re definitely right about starting very slow in the first few weeks. I’m thinking ill find light(sub 2.5 lb) household objects to use as a weight over the first couple weeks in order to reduce injury risk. I have also seen people discussing the fact that low weight is better. Long dick not strong dick. I think going 10 minutes at a time is the way to go, maybe even first day just using only the weight of the vacuum appliance.

Jelqing, you can see in my signature, 1/4 inch total for my first and second newbie routines. Small gains, YES! however very healthy and strong EQ. My Third routine you can see another 1/4 inch. I’ll tell you what, when you see 1/2 gain you love your D. 1/2 inch is amazing.

For the hanger I just see what one vet placed here. Listen to the vets.

Blink’s Hanging 101
Warning: Hanging is an advanced PE exercise. Don’t attempt it unless you have at least completed the Newbie Routine. Hanging 101