Pole of Aptitude Beginner Routine my take on JP90

So I posted on another forum but I’m switching my routine from JP90 to a less advanced one that I feel will work. It is my own take/version on JP90. It is fairly similar with the exception of an omitted exercise based on personal preference. I feel to get the technique of the v-jelq down requires too much effort spent in the beginning stages when the original wet jelq is the basis of most routines. I feel why not exclusively work on that. I also have turkey neck and a decent sized fat pad, making v-jelq not so optimal for me. I have included how to progress this routine (it’s a 180 day conditioning phase) 2 cycles minimum. 1 cycle = 90days. Please let me know what you think of this. If anyone brand new to PE would like to be a tester with me and record gains I fully welcome it. I have read a lot of stories about people frustrated with not seeing gains and I feel it is due to overworking and over thinking. This keeps things simple for a beginner and easier for them to stay committed.

Warm Up = 10 minutes

Stretching: 5 sets, 1 set per direction.

Helicopter Shake = 20 seconds
Directional Stretch (R, L, you, D, S) = 30 seconds/quick kegels
Clock Stretch = 10 reps clockwise/10 reps counter clockwise

Jelqing: 15 minutes

Wet jelq = 50 reps (both hands)

Kegels: 50 reps throughout day/50 reps post jelq

Warm Down = 10 minutes or edging or both

2 on / 1 0ff or 5 on/ 2 Off

Do for 90 days straight. After first cycle take one week decon break. After decon break then start over cycle adding 10 wet jelq reps and 20 kegel holds every 3rd week. After your second cycle of 90 days is completed you should be doing 100 wet jelqs per hand, and 200 total daily kegels. You can split these kegels into your own preferred kegel ratio K:Rk. You are now 180 days into your PE career. Now you should be able to assess the workload your unit can and cannot handle and you may add specific exercises for your intended goals and desired outcome keeping in mind to add in slowly.

Too much for a newbie. Plain and simple. That routine can be far too intense for new guys. If you want to learn how to PE and find your sweet spot, try the linear routine in my signature.

I do not see how this is too much? Most guys usually start with JP90 which is much more intense than this. I personally have done 3 weeks of JP90 and have experienced only positive PIs. Although I feel the progression on JP90 is too quick and you can quickly stall in progress from ramping up too quickly. I have reviewed and read the linear routine and it isn’t much different from this at all, besides the fact that this routine is meant to condition a newbie over a 6 month period rather than a short 3 month period and stretching is omitted. Personally I feel stretching plays a big role as a precursor to a jelq session. Also I did not clarify in the original post. But the goal for the first 90 days is to do quality jelqs for 15 minutes working purely on form. Time>Reps. As you progress over 90 days your technique should improve vastly and you should be doing 50 quality jelqs by the end of your 15 minute session. The next 90 days is where volume starts to play in and you can start to feel out your unit more and add new stresses to your routine, be it through reps, time under tension, more time, or new exercise. I’ve already worked up to a 70 jelq capacity in 3 weeks of JP90 and feel that those extra 20 reps are not needed. 50 seems to be the sweet spot for me, and I’m a noob. As far as kegels go, my PC does not typically get fatigued too easily. 100 daily kegels may be too much for someone who has never ever even heard of or know their PC muscle is even there, which is why they have 180 days to perfect their techniques and build up their work load. I have had experience with kegels since I was 16. I did not perform them every day but I had knowledge of them and a previous muscle-mind connection to work off of. I do appreciate your input and I will be modifying this routine as I progress. I will keep track of my gains and report what results I have achieved using this method.

Fist of all, spaces and paragraphs are your friend. No one will read what you post of its a wall of text like that. I didn’t.

No one here starts with the JP90. That’s a pegym thing. 15 minutes of jelqing is too much for a newbie. You may have had little or no issues with it but for most guys it’s too much.

We advocate the newbie routine and the linear routine here. I’ve personally done the jp90 as I started on pegym. It was too much. I’ve been PE ing for over two years now and my routine is 15 minutes of jelqing and 15-30 minutes o edging. Sometimes even that is too much. No one here is telling you not to do it. I’m just saying you may find your time better used with a shorter routine.

I started with the Linear Routine, which was warm up/warm down, a few stretches, and 20 Wet Jelqs.

Now after 3 months of slowly increasing, I’m basically doing 7 minutes of stretches, 120 Wet Jelqs. I also spend a couple of minutes, testing a few other exercises, but nothing serious.

From this Routine, I’ve got some pretty good gains… :)

I’ll bet you do those 120 jelqs in way less than 15 minutes.

That’s a very good point, making every jelq stroke and stretch pulled count with a shorter routine is often a better course than a long routine that you are maybe not paying much attention to.

Yeah, it takes me around 7 minutes to complete 120 Wet Jelqs - so, 3 second strokes approx.

I could do more, but I’m being patient. PEing is new to me, but I’ve spent many years training, so I know my body well.

I know what feels good, and what doesn’t… and this number at this intensity feels enough. A lot of people want to run before they can walk. :)

Exactly

From the Mighty Wikipedia:

An aptitude is a component of a competency to do a certain kind of work at a certain level, which can also be considered “talent”. Aptitudes may be physical or mental. Aptitude is developed knowledge, understanding, learned or acquired abilities (skills) or attitude.

So, the name makes it clear that this is not a beginners routine. Also, you are using a lot of exact science on something that is deeply personal. Some people gain from doing 80 slow jelqs, others from doing 400 fast ones. Others don’t gain at all, buy an ADS and finally see results. And finally you can’t expect someone to start a full routine like that without building it up. The 15 minutes of jelqing should be the end goal. You shoudn’t measure in units of time, but in actual reps. Confusingly you do so afterward.

That said, it’s a full and complete routine you could use if you have >3 months of PE experience. If you were to build it from the ground up from a few minutes of each to what you end up with in 180 days, I say you have PE’d well.

I spend 15 minutes doing 5 second strokes, that’s including time it takes to reset grip, let erection subside, and reapply lube. I get in anywhere from 30-50 strokes per hand in the 15 minutes.

And I think it’s very childish and ignorant of you to not read something because there wasn’t spacing between paragraphs. Whether there were 3 paragraphs separated by two empty lines of text or not, the text there is all the same. But here I’ll give you a stroke and separate this wall of text.

Furthermore to assume someone isn’t paying attention to any portion of their own routine is irreverent.

Now I do respect your opinions and views but I just don’t think that’s enough work for me at all (NLR). Even with my current routine, I feel as though I’m not doing much work. But I’m having all positive PIs the whole way through.

The empty space between paragraphs is there for a reason, it’s to make the image seem quieter in your mind. Stare a few moments at the middlemost word in this paragraph, and then in your earlier wall o’ text. It’s much easier to read a sentence when you subconsciously know there’s only 2 more lines left, and your mind has time to prepare for the logical conclusion of the sentence.

All in all, it’s much easier to absorb. Books don’t need that kind of spacing simply because the sentences are placed further apart and there’s a large amount of blank paper on all sides. We don’t have that luxury here. If you’re a moderator, you have to read lots of posts and it’s more tiring to read a block of text than small paragraphs.

The second part is simpler: typing your story as a ‘block’ is easy, I do the same. When you add spacing afterward you reread the text, so you see spelling mistakes and you see if all sentences are logical. If you want us forum-users to read your routine and use it, then it’s much more credible if it’s both well-written and easy to read.

Easy to read = easy to understand = easy to do (not always, but that’s not the point)

To get back to your routine: if you get positive PI’s than the routine might be just the thing for you. Be glad it doesn’t feel like much work, not everything in life should be hard.

Okay cool.

1. Read the forum guidelines before you post any further. You shall use proper punctuation, spelling and grammar for your respective language. Now that we’ve covered that, I don’t care how childish you think it is that I chose not to read you gigantic run on sentence. Separate your thoughts and sentences with periods and spaces.

2. No one here is saying you don’t pay attention to your jelqing. All that was said, is that quality over quantity is desired. For example, if you perform 1,250 jelqs and your hands and joints are tired after 25 of them and your form deteriorates, the remaining 1,225 are pointless. All we were saying is basically that 50 quality jelqs are better than 150 poor ones.

3. If you are having positive Pis and don’t care what we have to say then why bother posting at all?

If your routine works for you and you are satisfied then carry on. You came here asking for opinions and that is what you received.

Is there anything else we may help you with?

Hi, I read this forum by my smartphone; is difficult for me read a long post which has no spacing between paragraphs. Is not childish, is difficult to read and to understand.

And yes, I’m ignorant, and the space help my ignorance to have the chance to read and understand.

Taking into account all you guys say. Thanks