Returning to PE for length

Background: Hey guys after a few years away I’ve decided to return and give this all another go. I had learned and tried some of the manual stretches and jelqing but easily got bored and drifted away because of a lack of time and immediate results. This time around I’m willing to stick with it and wait for the longer investment.

BPEL: barely over 6
BPFSL: About 6 exactly (So tight tunica based on what I read, focus on length exercises)
EG: About 5.25 sometimes more on occasion

GOAL: Hmm I guess my core focus would be to use a routine (perhaps modified if you could help) that is streamlined mainly for length (like 90/10%) and doesn’t spend time on girth (which most of the beginner routines seem to have more focus on girth than I’d like). I might want girth later down the line but for now, I’d like to cut out as many of those exercises as possible as long as it won’t inhibit length.

CURRENT ROUTINE: So about a week ago I started with this routine: 10-20min warmup using a heating pad - 4x sets of 30 Sec manual stretches in each direction - 3 Sets of “Big Circle” Stretches (Not sure if there’s a term for these where you slowly go clockwise in each direction while pulling)
Schedule:3 days ON / 1 day REST

I guess this is a bit of a modified newbie routine that doubles stretching and removes jelqs. It’s not that I’m against jelqs it’s just that they’re a bit messier and I don’t feel motivated to spend time on them if there are more time-effective techniques for length. Feel free to blast me and tell me how essential they are for length if that’s the case. Either way I’d appreciate feedback on my current routine and whether there are more stretches I should implement, or if I should change rep/time. I completed my 4Th day last night and aside from 1 or 2 little red dots on the head, I’ve yet to notice any fatigue/soreness the day after so it doesn’t seem like I’ve been overworking.

TLDR:
1. Is my current routine okay if I’m solely looking for length and not girth gains?
2. If you’d change my routine, what would you add/modify to help reach my goal of length
3. With a streamlined routine that doesn’t focus on girth what type of length gains could I expect in 3 months? 6 months?

Big thank you to anyone who spent time to read this and help out!

Hey JackSock,

Good routine tho I would add some jelqs. People tend to think Jelqing is purely a girth exercise but in my experience it allows for quicker recovery and with low level erections adds as a length exercise not to mention better erectile quality.

3 months I would expect better erection quality meaning slight growth.

6 months to a year depending on regularity and doing the exercises correctly you can expect from half a cm to 1.5cm some have gained more but that’s not likely.

Alright good to know Ill start adding them every few days and try to make it a habit. Which would you recommend dry or wet?

I do not agree with you.
From what I Saw peoples who return to P.E gain the lost size way quicker then beginners .
And honestly its makes sense since its probably works like muscle memory.
Yet I cant throw a guess about the gains because he didn’t mention what was his maximum size in the past.

Wet

I returned from a very long break and didn’t make the size back quickly I just re started PE at a bigger size because of permanent gains.

Lifestyle is the big factor I was a lot fitter and healthier when I first started in 2012 compared to the last 4 years.

Regarding gains….it’s anyone’s guess we are all very different I guess my point is lower ones expectations as it really is the key to happiness.

Ahh yeah this wouldn’t apply to me too much as I never really made any noticeable gains. I was never consistent enough for that in the past, never got my newbie gains. Do you have any thoughts on my current routine? I’m afraid its a bit too easy but maybe its best to keep it as it is for another week or two

I think you will manage to get some newbie gains but I also think you will reach the Plateau pretty fast with this routine.

You will need to add some extender/hanger to keep your length gains at some point.

And if you ask me I think you should do at least few minutes of jelqing.

Are you saying ill reach my plateau quicker because I’m prioritizing just length? Or is it because jelqs are important for reaching further in length goals as well. In the 2nd case Ill be sure to add atleast a few minutes. I’m not too interested in hanging as of right now but once I hit my limit with this routine isn’t it possible to make gains permanent by performing the routine for a few more months? Lets say I hit my limit at 6.5 inches with this route, if performed for another 3 months wouldn’t I keep those gains? Or does one need to reach 7 for example to end up with 6.5 permanently

* I’m also pretty new myself most of the information I’m giving is coming from threads that I read in this forum and not from my experience.
I will try to split it to few answers because you asked many things.

1. Are jelqs important ?
In the beginning I couldn’t find much time to jelq so I basically did something like your routine and sometimes jelq when I could and at some point lost the motivation and quit P.E.
Few months ago I bought pump and start jelqing consistence and I”m gaining way quicker then I used too.

2. Why will you reach the plateau faster ?
Answer:
Because at some point the routine wont be intensive enough.
Usually peoples are adding more exercises/equipment’s after finishing the newbie routine [Hanging/All Day Stretching/Pumping].
I’m looking at P.E like a sport if you bench press 100kg over and over at some point your chest wont have enough resistance to growth and you wont advance any further.
[You can search progressive overload]

3. Permanent gains questions ?
*I would be happy if some 1 will confirm what I’m gonna say now because I don’t remember 100% of it .
Answer:
Manual stretching [Strong power and short time] are good to release the connection and this is why the newbie gains are way faster then the rest of the journey but when you quit the connection point getting tighter after a while.
On the other hand All Day stretcher [Low Power and long time] are makin the cells of your penis “injure” and when the body recover it [its called homo something cant remember the rest] its increasing the size of the penis.
That’s why I think pure manual stretching routine is less effective for permanent gains but I do believe if you do it enough time its will do the job.
*I tried an extender and its not my thing so I went on pumping.

I suggest doing only the newbie routine. Im now 7 months on the newbie routine and gained 1.2cm bpel. I never skipped a day (2 days on 1 day off) only injured myself for a month. Im trying to figure out how much I wouldve gained if I didnt had a 1 month break. My goal is to reach another 1cm length bpel end of the year.

Good to know, has progession slowed much? Assuming not if you think the pace will keep up about the same. How’d you end up with the injury, I’d like to avoid that as much as possible lol. Probably just went a bit overboard w pressure?

Progression is going trough the roof right now.
Started mid feb 2021: 15.3 bpel
In 3 months may 2021: 16 bpel (these gains I had very soon within a month probably better EQ

Then I had a 1 month break due injury. Probably caused by stretching to much pressure on the glans. It didnt hurt and the urologist said it was nothing but i still have 1 bigger side of the glans (only visible if you look very closely and if its flaccid, hard you cant notice)

Restartes around mid june stats: 16 bpel

Now I gained 0.6cm in 1.5 month or so.

Im still very insecure about the future. Before the newbie routine I used an extender for few weeks and it was a hell. I dont like an extender at all. So im afraid if my gains will stop with jelqing and stretching I have to mix the extender with my routine, which I dont want to because I mastered jelqing and its not big of a deal for me right now, I actually enjoy PE as long as im gaining.

My routine:
5 mins warmup
10mins-13 mins stretching with uv lamp
30-32mins jelqing with low Erection level with uv lamp
5 mins warm down
50 kegels

My goal again is to hit 17.6 bpel in another 6 months because I jelqed and stretched for 7 months with 1 month break. So another 6 months (to february) seems 1cm gain a pretty reachable goal.

Youre goals and expectations are pretty high. 4.5cm bp length gains is very much. I hope my 1inch goal is reachable with jelqing only but 4cm bp length gains seem impossible with jelqing only you have to gonna use an extender or other methods im afraid.

Maybe you dont mind but I suggest to lower your expectations to 1 inch goal for starting.
4.5cm NBP is reachable. I started at 5 inch nbpel but when youre losing Weight you can easily add 1cm or more. My NBP gains are higher then BP so im loosing a lot of my fat pad. I hope I can reach 15.5-16cm 1 day then I have to lose 0.5cm-1cm of my 1 inch fat pad what seems reachable too.