Self Introduction and Questions.

I’m completely newbie in Thunder’s Place and of course, in PE too.

I live in northern Japan and I am 24 years old.

My size is about 6 inches in BPEL, and 5 inches in girth.

I got depressed when I think about my size.

My goal is getting about 3~4 cm gain in length and 2 cm in girth if possible.

I’m currently planning to start PE with an extender I considered, Penimaster Pro.

I don’t have any previous PE experience, though I tried jelqing before for some time but I felt so stressful because I’m uncut so my foreskin is really loose and it bothers jelqing so much.
I tried another method, dry jelqing, but it was so difficult for my dick too. So I decided to use Penimaster Pro to start exercise and add Bathmate if needed.

I have some questions for now.

Can I start my PE with extender? I heard it’s better use that after having manual exercises, besides someone saying It’s okay to use that to start PE exercise.

And, as I said in this post, my goal is getting about 3~4cm in length and about 2cm in girth.
How long will it take for me to get my goal with Penimaster Pro and Bathmate? In addition, Is my goal achievable? I’m estimating it will take at least 5 years, but I want to know more about this.

Welcome to thunders! It’s a great place.

That’s a great size! Don’t be depressed. Your goal is usually attainable with manuals only, no equipment, if you’re first starting.

I would think otherwise, myself. I’m cut, and I think allot of the manual exercises would be easier and less stressful if I had extra skin to be the barrier. I’ve spent allot of time stretching skin to make it easier, because I don’t have enough skin. Are you sure you are jelqing right?

I wouldn’t go direct to extender. Manual exercise may meet your goals, without spending any money. Also, manuals will condition you for more advanced practice, like extenders and bathmate. With less chance for injury.

That can’t be answered specifically. Some wait weeks, months, some wait years. You just have to try.

My advice: When “good and honest” manuals don’t work anymore, then try the extender and or bathmate. You cannot make it faster. It will go as fast as it can, until it gets tired. More work is not the answer. It can only handle so much. Don’t do more than it can handle.

Be safe. Be consistent.

Well, Thank you for your response.

You asked me did I surly tried jelqing right?
Yes. I surly tried it and I felt that is really stressful. When I tried wet jelqing, I saw my foreskin always interrupting my workout.
It always rolls up and covers the glans all the time. Other methods too, even dry jelqing! It is too stressful for me to apply manual routines on my penis.

I heard that It is ‘recommended’ to precede Manual PE exercises before having devices like extenders or pumps etc, not ‘mandatory’.
And, I heard this too that conditioning can be done with starting with an extender, by having less tension and time and gradually increase the intensity, not to mention about safety during workout, instead of having manual routines.

I wanted to find my way to achieve my goal by trying methods, by learning about manual PE and Device PE. But as far as I felt, the manual routines are really stressful and doesn’t fit me at all.

What should I have to do?
Or Are there any methods can be done by penis like mine?

Try pulling your foreskin back to the base with one hand and jelq with the other. Foreskin going over the glans is normal, and shouldn’t be a problem. The jelq should stop before the glans, not include it.

You can go straight to devices if you want. Plenty have and do. Nobody is going to stop you. Just be careful. It’s better to do manuals first. The choice is yours, you decide.

Stay safe.

Hey there, your junk is good size man, particularly considering asian women are tighter than wite/black/red/brown girls, so that’s a strong advantage in your quest. Meaning going for 4cm more will be counterproductive for hitting girls in your area of influence. Not to mention 2cm more girth. You would preferably fuck them ladies good, than tear them apart by thrusting a super fat cock inside them. That hurts them and you won’t be able to perform for longer periods, they will literally pull off out of pain and discomfort. You don’t want that. 5” MSEG is a very good measurement, I wouldn’t try to go beyond 5.5 if I were you. It could be disastrous for all those beautiful Japanese girls out there. So 1st, don’t be depressed, you’re fine sizewise. And 2nd, do your PE but avoid going too large, it will be a curse more than a blessing. I mean, it’s ok for bragging with the guys, but they will fear it. That’s even worse than having a little 3 incher.

Maxwind,

I’m not sure I agree with this. If you want it bigger, make it bigger. PE is for you, right? So, do it, as much as you want.

Well, Okay and Thanks for your advice.
Will going straight to extender cause safety problem or affect on gain?
I think that there will be no problem if I used that properly.

Of course :D

I went straight to an extender (the totalman vacuum all day stretcher) with great success. Personally, i think it is the way to go over manual stretching. Its a light enough method and can be combined with an FIR heating pad for consistent heat, which many here consider to be the key to success. Heat and time under tension. Combine this with jelqing and decon breaks, you could hit your goals by the end of year 2. Everyone’s different, but length seems to be much easier to gain than girth. 3cm length within a single year is achievable for sure.

I think some devices are more risky than others, but they tend to all get lumped into the same category of “do manuals before touching this stuff”. It is certainly easier to injure yourself with a pump or clamping when you are not conditioned or have not learned the limits of what you can handle. I think extenders and even hanging is pretty safe if you don’t try and hang too much weight or wear it too long.

It sounds a bit hard to understand, but you mean It’s better to take preceding manual exercises before using devices, even though you are the case that succeeded from starting straight from devices? Because it will cause safety issues, if I don’t take conditioning and doing straight to devices.

But as you told that there will be no problem if I don’t over-train, right?

I’m considering to have workout that starting from low tension in extender in short running-time.

Can I consider this as conditioning phase instead of manual exercise conditioning?

As I said, I tried manual stretching for some times but that methods aren’t fit on my penis,
Because of my loose foreskin. So I decided to go start straight with Extender instead of various manual methods like jelqs, but start from very low tension and increase intensity gradually for safety.

Kon’nichiwa こんにちは, maxwind. Welcome to Thundersplace. As mentioned earlier, you have nothing to be depressed about. You have a good size now, and you can only improve. Best of luck on your journey.

Thank you for your ‘welcoming’! :)

Maxwind,

You are understanding me correct. My opinion is that an extender or ADS is safe to use prior to conditioning with manual exercises.

However, i think manual exercises like jelqing, edging, and piss-pulls are important to implement alongside an extender routine. It took me a while to get the hang of jelqing. I’m cut, so I don’t have your same issue, but I have a lot of ballsack skin that runs up the shaft (turkey neck).

Welcome to Thunder’s. Your goals are definitely attainable, and like everyone has said, you’ve got a great size already.

I see, thanks a lot for your advice.

I will try some jelqing and stretching and other manual exercises more time.

But I’m worried about my foreskin that ruining manual exercises and making me stressful again.

Will be there any better manual stretch methods for me?

Are you using a translator? I think your translator is causing a problem with the word “stressful”, on our end. We might not understand. I think you mean “difficult”, but as often as you say “stressful”, I’m thinking you mean something else.