When will there be a medical chemical solution for PE?

Great, now you can have your penis transplanted on your forehead.

The nose wasn’t transplanted on the forehead, it was grown there.

As if we need any more ‘dickheads’ around :)

“Using a tissue expander on Xiaolian’s forehead, doctors “grew” a new nose on the man by cutting the tissue into the shape of a nose and taking cartilage from his ribs to mold the nose into shape.”

This is a good example of the internal organs. Tiny Lab-Grown Heart Beats On Its Own

1. Are stem cell treatments dangerous? Can stem cells cause cancer?

Every medical procedure has risks. A goal of clinical trials is to determine if the possible benefit of a treatment outweighs the risks. A possible risk of some stem cell treatments may be the development of tumors or cancers. For example, when cells are grown in culture (a process called expansion), the cells may lose the normal mechanisms that control growth or may lose the ability to specialize into the cell types you need. Also, embryonic stem cells will need to be directed into more mature cell types or they may form tumors called teratomas. Other possible risks include infection, tissue rejection, complications arising from the medical procedure itself and many unforeseen risks.

2. Are treatments using my own (autologous) stem cells safe? Why should these be regulated?

While your own cells are less likely to be rejected by your immune system, this does not necessarily mean the cells are safe to use as a therapeutic treatment. The methods used to isolate, modify, grow or transplant the cells may alter the cells, could cause infection or introduce other unknown risks. Transplanting cells into a different part of the body than they originated from may have unforeseen risk, complications or unpredictable outcomes.

“These Web sites that advertise stem cell therapies usually go way beyond what is proven scientifically.”
Irving L. Weissman, MD, is the Director of the Institute of Stem Cell Biology and Regenerative Medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine.

“…there is reason to be skeptical of these potential therapies.”
Sean J. Morrison, PhD, is the Director of the Children’s Medical Center Research Institute at UT Southwestern.

“However, despite these facts, little money is going into establishing new lines of human embryonic stem cells. The reason for this is simple economics. Investors do not want to throw money away. It was widely believe on theoretical grounds that embryonic stem cells, being more plastic then adult cells, would be more likely to produce viable therapies. However so far this has not proven to be the case as there are currently 60 therapeutic uses of adult stem cells and 0 therapeutic uses of embryonic stem cells. The reasons for this are not entirely clear but seem to be related to genetic level complexities.

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I don’t want also to carry negative stereotypes, but people should be cautious into buying any ‘revolutionary’ treatment coming from China.

Stem cells can do anything. Cure diseases, grow hair, grow pecker, repair hearts etc

Miami: In theory yes. When do you think they have a treatment ready?

I could forsee a concoction that could be given/injected during childhood/puberty that might possibly proliferate cell growth more than what you naturally would have gotten…one day. Our knowledge of stem cells and growth factors is increasing exponentially day by day. Perhaps one day it can be applied to the penis (probably not once you’re an adult at full growth, though). There’s a critical window of opportunity for penis growth, where certain androgens are active and allow growth - when these androgens become inactive, penile growth doesn’t happen any more naturally. Or something like that. Google it you lazy bum, I’m not a doctor :P

Until then there is a sort of ‘chemical’ solution called PMMA. The long term effects are not known yet. But it uses your body’s natural reaction to foreign bodies to grow your own collagen, creating more girth. With PMMA, you can reach any girth you could naturally want (albeit with multiple sessions). Guys with PMMA tout 7”+ girths when they originally had 4.5”….it’s pretty incredible to see. It’s also not a surgery, but a series of injections using a blunt injector tool called a cannula.

As far as results, so far so good. Aesthetically it’s great, people say it feels natural and their sensation is the exact same as before, many times even BETTER than it was before (no, this is no bullshit, you can read the many progress reports yourself). So for me, the option of PMMA in the future has alleviated my girth concerns, which is so nice especially since I’m starting out at 4.5” mseg. However, the long term complications are unknown, and the longest someone has had PMMA of in their penis that we know of is about 5 years or so. However, he is still complication free, and so are the vast majority of patients. Any complications thus far have been minor and solvable problems, so that’s good. In the worst case scenario, PMMA can be removed by degloving (not recommended) or by laser removal, so that is also good. Risk of necrosis is minimum with a blunt cannula.

So it was an option for me. However, my situation is/was rather dire, with thoughts of suicide floating around at my current size, and a complete inability to interact socially. And more importantly, a complete inability to properly PE due to an over sensitive penis and a long lasting injury from jelqing. So I had a lot of things pointing me to the direction of PMMA (including my small starting size). If you yourself don’t, then I don’t recommend PMMA as an option. If you think that natural PE maybe isn’t for you for whatever reason (maybe you got injured, maybe you got no gains after lots of persistence) then I recommend looking into it. SO FAR it’s the best phalloplasty option by far that we’ve ever had. If you’re wondering why you’ve never heard about it, it’s because it’s only been ‘popular’ since 2011. More info can be found on a forum called Phalloboards (google it, should be phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com).

For me, this ‘chemical’ option (if you can call it that) was a life saver, so now I will rely on manual PE only for the length, which I know from reading around here is possible.

-Smalljay

"I’ve now felt 2 PMMA penis’s (I happen to be involved in an industry that lends itself to PE). Both were done by Dr C. One had 1 fill, the other had two. After several months of settling I can say that… they don’t feel good. It’s not ‘right’. Feels fake. Even compared to an Elist implant. They’re kinda squishy, like FFT, except not as natural feeling. Soft rubber is what comes to mind. Maybe, if you’ve never felt any other forms of PE surgery, you think it feels natural, but I don’t think so. You might be able to get away with it but sooner or later, someone will say something. They may not suspect that it’s fake but you may get a comment like "why is your penis so squishy?". Something like that."
Negative Experiences With A PMMA Enhanced Penis - PhalloBoards (Version 2.0)

Beside that, any foreign body injected inside any organ will trigger a repulsive reaction by the body. This reaction could be not even dectetable at first but raise infection after several years; silicon gel can cause infection as late as about 30years after the injection.
Adverse reactions to injectable soft tissue permanent fillers - PubMed

No thank you for silicone injections.

Smalljay; if you have some kind of ED / injury wouldn’t a heavier dick from PMMA just make it worse?

@ Marinera: if you scroll down further in that thread you’ll see that the majority of other people disagree with him completely. They even scoff at the notion that the Ellist implant is anywhere near the feeling of the PMMA. What can feel ‘fake’ or ‘rubbery’ during the flaccid or semi erect state is excessive amounts of 30% concentration PMMA (the heaviest concentrate - it’s also offered at 10% and 20%). If you read around, you’ll find that the vast majority of people have no problem with the realism of even the 30% - but of the aesthetic complaints that their are, most are from lots of 30% not the lesser percentages (usually). All around, the reports of realism have really been surprising. You read around and it sounds too good to be true. And maybe it is, 30 years down the line as you said. But for now, for me, it was the best solution.

If you want to know more about the procedure, I suggest the forum I posted. I weighed my pros and cons and thought I chose the best option for myself. But I’m still learning and reading every day - it’s just like PE, if not more important and critical to study for months and months before possibly undertaking. Lots of knowledge to be had. And also plenty of discussions about possible complications, infections, granulomas, etc - luckily situations that everyone there has avoided in any critically serious fashion (I can think of maybe three moderate complications, all of which were resolved or stabilized with still happy people on the other side).

So for the long term, yes it is a gamble. Cannot argue with you there sir. But so far, aesthetically-wise and sensitivity-wise, it’s by far the best option (though still not spot on perfect, but what is?)

@ Quajiro: I agree, silicone injections are scary, and are offered today for the penis (I’ll take a pass after seeing that lady who lost her arms and legs due to silicone injections in her already perfectly delicious black booty). So damn sad to see. But this stuff is not silicone - it is far from it. It is PMMA or Polymethylmethacrillate. I might be one or two letters off there, but google it. Pretty cool stuff (until it turns my dick cancerous and black in 10 years OMFG I hope not…*comes back 10 years later with no dick and reads this**. Look into it more and do your own research if you want, there is a TON to know. Has a much better track record than silicone, although not perfect in the early days due to poor insertion technique (sharp needle instead of blunt cannula, which raises the risk of injection into a vein or artery resulting in an embolism that has caused some nasty cases of necrosis in the past when used in the face near artery rich areas, etc (not the deep fascia of the penis). If you do your research you’ll see why many people feel this decision is not as much of a risk as silicone in many parts of the body (although none of us really can ‘know’ in the long term, that’s for sure). Short term tho…FUCK silicone lol.

@idomin: That is a solid point, and one reason why I’m considering waiting a full two years (instead of just one) before getting this procedure. I want this shit to be HEALED before I get something so permanent injected into my dick. WIll give the procedure some time to develop and evolve and more progress reports to come out as well. As I said, this has only been ‘popular’ since around 2011. A very new procedure so the long term effects in the penis (its a technique called Penile Bioplasty, using PMMA injectables) are completely unknown. So far, the short term effects are genuinely, usually, great. So it’s a tradeoff for the complete unknown and really risking it all. But you have to weigh your risk and reward ratio. Personally, my life wouldn’t be much better with no dick, so a dick of any girth I want proves to be an immense possible reward. Who knows, I may pay for it down the road. I pray for me, and for anyone with a skinny dick years and years in the future, that it proves a good solution in the end.

Nah, assuming everybody gains similar amounts from the procedure you’d still be ahead (Ba dum tsshh).