Design The Ultimate Fast Gains Routine

I used Mem’s routine for about 6 months and saw a net 0 change - I did everything right and that I’m sure of, I think it may be me not being able to gain or something to just ruin it for me, but either way, it didn’t work.

Hmm interesting. What methods have you gained from?

What if it’s way too friggin’hot to use heat?

I have a heating pad which works great but it’s August:p

Apparently the ideal temperature for the warm up is 40-45 degrees celcius, your penis should feel noticably hotter than your normal body temperature (37 degrees Celcius) if you have done it properly.

Yeah I tend to have really warm warm ups. Also, as an aside after a month break from PE, and after a week back my flaccid seems to have increased to around 4.75” now.

fast length gainer / very slow girth gainer

Braindrain had really fast (length) gains during the first 6 months = 1" EL with a mainly manual routine. He started hanging and clamping but gains seemed to slow down, gaining less than an inch over a much longer period.

Man I keep harping on about it but I PE’d for 6 weels, took a month off then on resuming I now stretch after jelqing and my flaccid has gone from a non moving 4.5” to over 4.75” in a week (it’s actually almost 5” tonight although I did PE earlier). Depeding on my EL results in a few weeks, I may start to permenantly incoporate decon breaks after a period ofsay 6 weeks. I was thinking 6 weeks on 3 weeks off. The 6 weeks would be fairly intense for a newbie.

I would hang out (no pun intended) with Bib or someone who knows about deformation of collagenous tissues. You’ll learn a lot. I think if you do a jelq, it depends how weak your tissues are to see gains from that. I had great erection quality and never saw any gains jelqing. Then I worked on my ligaments and was able to net a significant gain. I have sinced worked on deformation of the tunica and have continued to see some gains, albeit much smaller and taking much longer.

If you’re lucky to make gains initially, or newbie gains, you have to progress from there. Either more time or more pressure will lead to more results.

I wanted to add that the more you exercise, lift weights, eat protein, etc., the less likely you are to inflict damage on these structures significantly. They will rebuild and recover quicker. Health is important, though, and gains can still be made otherwise, but they will take more time.

Hmm “damage”? not sure I want to do that. What your saying is purely theoretical and you should state as such. Jb is a competative bb’er and has some of the fastest gains on the progress reports FYI. I think he told me he ate 500g of protein a day, it could well help gains we simply do not know.

Good observations, L H.

You know, I’ve thought about this, as well, in regards to CC gains. When I was lifting weights/bodybuilding, I was eating over 300 grams of protein a day and doing pumping/jelqing. My size did begin to grow somewhat, but once the protein was lowered, I lost that extra 5% or length and girth.

Bodybuilding guru John Parillo would have his trainees consume 5-600 grams and it was noted to allowing them to harden up their muscles, gain much more rapidly, etc. Damage might not sound good, but that is what we’re doing when we lift weights or perform PE. The stress needed wasn’t much to achieve gains initially, but for continued gains, more stress is needed. Who would have bigger legs: A bodybuilder who squats 300lbs or the same bodybuilder who has worked up to squatting 600lbs, coordination and skill not withstanding?

I think this sort of work with hurt tunica and lig deformation i.e. gains, in the long run, but I’ve only got my experience to go on.

It’s a mystery.

I think that the ultimate fast gains routine would be one that didn’t require long deconditioning periods to start getting gains again. Rather than consistently upping your routine with a rounded number of reps. every month, weekly measurements would tell you if gains are slowing and you could “add as required”.

I think that slightly underdoing it is better and safer in the long run than constant excessive increases, if you don’t do enough during one week maybe you will have grown less but at least the effort needed is at the minimum level required for further growth and you won’t need to lose those valuable 3 months for eventual deconditioning, instead another 3/4” growth might be possible during that time.

Razzle Dazzle: I failed to gain anything from Mem’s routine aswell, I think maybe it conditioned my piece more than anything bt thats not what I want. I know ive got a tough tunica anyway and the long, hard stretches probably strengthened it even more. I heard if you overwork it too much it might tear badly and be replaced with scar tissue which might create a bend in the penis which i also don’t want. Im doing moderate stretches now aswell- as many as possible spread through the day and even though i havent seen any gains yet Im staying hopeful :-)

Hmmm, let me give this a shot

Length routine: 3-4 days per week.
Warm up 20 minutes. Use a rice sock or bed fowfers.
Slow static stretches in all directions.
Slow jelqing with the “V’ grip and “you” grip alternating with OK grip jelqs. Jelq slow 5-15 seconds should do it. Do about 40-50 of them. Keep the grip lite. Stay under 60% erect.
Edging for 20 to 40 minutes.

During the edging session do erect kegels.
Warm down with bed fowfers.

Girth: 2 days per week only.
Warm up with bed fowfers 0 minutes.
Slow static stretches “V” stretch or “A” stretch or both alternate.
A few lite jelqs 20-40 really slow ones. Above 70% erect.
90-95% erection clamp on a Uli. Kegel while doing a uli.
Clamp on the Uli’s and kegel 20 times.
Edging for 20-40 minutes.
While kegeling do a couple hundred erect kegels.

These are advanced routines and should not be tried by newbies.