DLD says a sad goodbye to Thundersplace

As a New member, I dont know much about DLD or anyone else on this forum. I do, however know that this forum is about FREE information. Now I have read many posts where someone found this site by going to a pay site and then being referred here or by talking to someone who knew about this forum. Noone is benefitting financially from the information posted here, and that is the reason that many of the new members are here, I myself could not afford to be part of a pay site. That this information is given free of charge is also one reason that this information can be trusted, there are no hidden agenda’s here. I am part of several forums on a variety of topics, and the one common trait is that they are all free, many have moderators and many do not.

I believe as many people do that information should be free for those people willing to go and find it. If a person is not willing to work hard enough to go and find that information, there are people willing to do all the work for a price. I dont fault those people who make thier living doing work for others.

The information in this forum is being used by many people to make money, everything from people selling devices, to people selling videos, and even people selling the very information that is found here free of charge.

DLD chose to go into the business of PE and the consequences of those actions were not what he had hoped. We do not get to choose our own consequences, that is the responsibility of society. And society frowns on “conflicts fo interest” and there are many laws preventing certain types of business practices because of that. Many times there have been people who had to give up a job they love doing because of a possible conflict of interest. But it is the actions of the few that greatly influence society.

I thank Thunder for his hard work in keeping this information FREE, and I would be greatly dissapointed if it were not.

I hear you Dino.

I may be wrong, only DLD and God know, I’m just writing my opinion on what I believe given the facts I have.

I think everyone on this board is great, I just have the opinion that DLD is an honest man. Maybe my opinon of him is based on faslehoods, but from what I can tell, you know?

I guess I can hardly defend (altough I wasn’t trying to defend him, merley state my opinons of him) someone I don’t really know. Maybe I’m a fool for even opening my mouth.

Peace and God Bless

PS I agree with I want 8, three cheers to Thunder for all his contributions.

Can anyone say “Tom Hubbard”.

Man - this sort of long assed shit-talking thread doesn’t do anything for anyone.

I don’t know what to think.

DLD - are you still reading this or can we file your name next to Tom and Ulistretch’s? (i hope not)

I think you should forget about the mod bit and be content to be a member. I’m sure you can still help guys out here and run your paysite.

No-one has tried to ban dld as far as i can see.

Petey’sUncle i hope is an actual friend of yours in real life DLD - cos as far as i can see i never heard of him before and yet now he has hacked (or had info leaked to him from) the mod forum, and hes instigated a fight between you, the mods, and all of the rest of us.

Very clever.

well - i don’t know what to think. Time will tell.

DLD's first post screamed: ATTENTION! ATTENTION! I’m HURT, I’m WRONGED! FOR THE FREE PE MOVEMENT! I LOVE ALL OF YOU! THEY CONSPIRED AGAINST ME!

He has alot to answer, and depending on those answers, we’ll learn more deeply about him. Of course, I expect him to avoid the questions.

But we will see.

I have been a long frequenter of this forum, and DLD has indeed helped so many out. But if he is getting vexed over this little issue then it tells alot about him.

Furthurmore, there is no conspiracy, so he gonna stay or just leave? Wait and see.

I just talked to DLD (email) and he said he is very sad. I really dont think he’s even coming back to read the thread. He’s pretty depressed.

At this point no one except DLD knows what information was given to him. It might have been every post in the mod forum threads, or it might have been only a few things that made him feel conspired against. If it was the latter, his reaction is absolutely on target for his personality and emotional state. He’s easily hurt, easily excited, and easily looses control. I’ve met him in person and, although our time together was brief, I can now understand how this thing would have affected him.

People read things on his site and interpret them in their own way. Saying his site has been in the works for a year doesn’t necessarily mean that a year ago he decided to come to Thunder’s, gather information, and then turn that knowledge into a pay site. It might mean a year ago he began to work on his variations of the exercises, saw that they worked for him, passed on his newer techniques to others, saw that they worked for them, and then months later decided that he liked helping others and, given his current financial situation, decided he could help others and make a sort of living at it, too. Don’t be so quick to judge things based you YOUR interpretation of his words. You have to understand HIS interpretation of them and so far no one has given him the opportunity to do that.

I look at DLD as a “penis personal trainer.” When you go to the gym and HIRE a personal trainer, you don’t ask him where he got his knowledge. If he learned from books or his experience in a gym, made some modifications to techniques, and then decided he liked helping others and could make a living doing it, you won’t question that at all. Yet here most are making DLD out to be a charlatan, swindler and cheat for doing essentially the same thing by charging for his time and knowledge to give personal attention to those who join his site. Just as you could learn the same things your personal trainer at the gym knows and create your own program and do your own exercises for free, you can learn and do PE exercises without DLD. But if you want an experienced and knowledgeable guide to a bigger penis, you should be willing to pay for his time.

DLD reacted to bad news in a manner consistent with his state of mental health. He’s on a lot of medications. He isn’t always in control of his emotions. What needs to be done now is to discover who sent him (probably partial) mod forum information, why this person apparently wants to cause trouble here, and let DLD make up his mind about continued participation. Heavy handed accusatory posts, such as those from DJ-Man, are not helping the situation.

Westla, those are my exact feelings. Thank you for putting them into words.

I co-sign with Westla as well, especially on the

“People read things on his site and interpret them in their own way. Saying his site has been in the works for a year doesn’t necessarily mean that a year ago he decided to come to Thunder’s, gather information, and then turn that knowledge into a pay site. It might mean a year ago he began to work on his variations of the exercises, saw that they worked for him, passed on his newer techniques to others, saw that they worked for them, and then months later decided that he liked helping others and, given his current financial situation, decided he could help others and make a sort of living at it, too. Don’t be so quick to judge things based you YOUR interpretation of his words. You have to understand HIS interpretation of them and so far no one has given him the opportunity to do that.”

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Peace and God Bless

Ive never seen a thread accumulate so many views (4500) and so many replies (128) in so little time (about 24 hours)

Guys

I really don’t care if DLD planned his site or not, I was just stating a comment made by DLD himself and I’m not twisting his words. I really like the guy and hope he makes a ton of dough and he finds the peace of mind he needs.

The whole issue is not DLD the issue can anyone be a member on a free site and continue to help people while he owns a pay site without using his position as mentor to sell memberships. I was hoping to find out but DLD decided not to ruff it out.

Dino

I recall a post he made awhile back in some thread somewhere that he was ok with the mod issue. Knowing what the guy faces everyday due to his conditions, I’m sure it was the appearance that people he considered friends and trustworthy weren’t who he thought they were. Hobby stated his opinion, Thunder said he was close to deciding to ban him, from what little we’ve seen in the mod posts, someone with DLD’s outlook on life could very easily go off the deep end and see conspiracy around every corner. I’m sure that was particularly devastating to him…

A favor for you dld.

I’ve visited and joined DLD’s forum. I hope he’ll experience success with his new board, but I don’t think it’ll ever replace Thunder’s (for me). I’m a little confused that DLD posted to this forum on 6/02/03 saying he is going to have to start his own forum, when I see that he was posting to his new forum as early as 5/31/03. I guess he knew he was going to start his own forum at least two days before he posted to us. Things must’ve been going down hill for him then, too, or he wouldn’t have been making the new forum … right? It must’ve been hard for him to act like nothing was up before his goodbye.

Thus far, his forum is looking pretty good.

Well I’m saddened slightly by all this. I would write out my thoughts on this matter here but I’ve already emailled DLD with mine, and Westla has given a level-headed take on it which I’m agreeing with.

A rather contentious issue, but this isn’t a political forum is it? Perhaps we could just close this thread and let things settle by themselves, with the aid of good decision makers such as Thunder.

DLD gave me more advice than I might ever need for my PE career without expecting a penny from me. I think some people are being a little harsh, like DJ-Man for example. Not an attack on you DJ-Man because you are putting forward a very objective view, perhaps it’s just the gratitude I feel for DLD for the advice and inspiration he has given me that’s swayed me.

However we musn’t lose sight of the bigger picture. DLD is going to do well with his site, and good luck to him. Remember that he won’t be trouble free exactly, as OCD doesn’t seem like a lot of fun.
Also, remember the other members of this forum who perhaps don’t post quite as much as DLD but offer profound insights, advice etc.

Let’s get back to PE ;)

And sorry if this post is pointless, I just wanted to voice my thoughts.

Guys

I don’t want to bad mouth anybody, I like dld and wish him the best. I’m done with this thread I think it needs to go to the boneyard, the bonyard is the place where threads end up when they go wrong

Dino