EVO oil...... Revisited

You’re being very sensitive. You will learn.

With regard to your assessment of me: I have many thousands of posts here, and a great many of them are helpful.

One of the ways I help people is to disabuse them of faulty notions. This is what I was doing with you. You don’t like it? What can I say?

Perhaps your issue with gynecomastia as a child makes you more sensitive about the subject. Even so, I would still say there is no reliable precedent for having a ‘relapse’ for this condition. You are 26 now; you’re out of the woods. You can breathe easy.

There truly is no need to be over-cautious, especially because one study of questionable merit suggests there may be a relationship between these oils and pre-pubescent boys.

You’re not holding out on us are you? You’re not secretly pre-pubescent?

Let me tell a little something about essential oils: many of them have similar properties - even as they have differences. If you’re so concerned about this supposed relationship with lavender and tea tree oil with gynecomastia, you should perhaps take a look at the components of some of the other oils in Eroset’s formula. If it’s possible that those two oils cause anything, it could easily be just as true of lemongrass oil and perhaps rosemary oil as well - if that study has any merit (which is one kind of if), and if you were pre-pubescent (which is, perhaps, even more significant).

Lavender oil is not going to make you grow boobies.

Especially if you don’t use it, which is entirely up to you. Free advice is just that: do with it what you will.

Just don’t assume that because Lurky posted a link that it’s the 100% true. Learn to evaluate a little better.

Lastly, with regard to this:

Or I can post them, as I have at least as much right to do here as you do. If you think my attitude is ‘crappy’ or have a problem with my opinion, I can’t help that, but you can’t really tell me or anyone else here what to do.

And if you continue to insult the poster, rather than tackle the ideas that are posted, you won’t last long. I’m just saying. If you take things less personally and try to get to understanding why someone might post a contrary opinion you’ll do better.

The membership you save might be your own. :leftie:

Welcome to Thunder's.

Whatever man……… Call it sensitivity or whatever you want to, but at the end of the day, your word doesn’t really mean that much. Post as you please. I’ve wasted enough time on you anyhow

Tits on man looks great. ;)

We should perhaps get back to the main topic of the thread though.

And the topic is.. EVO, and concerns related to Lavender oil as an ingredient .

Personally, I have used EVO, and Lavender by itself for years with no sign of any hormonal fluctuations .

Someone else could, perhaps, use the same substances and develop unwanted side effects .

The chances are very slim, and as far as I can tell, there is no clearly demonstrated evidence, double blind studies, or substantial research into the matter .

I would say, that two other essential oils, Thyme, and German Chamomile, might be substituted for Lavender, though neither posses all of the wonderful benefits of Lavender .

And Arnica is another wonderful plant, that greatly promotes healing from bruising and strains, and might be included in a PE oil recipe .

I use a good, organic Olive oil as a base, or ” carrier ” oil . To this , I add Castor oil, which has a great ” glide ” and also promotes healing and elasticity.

Then, add as you like, any, all, or none of the essential oils listed in EVO, be creative, use your imagination, and use what attracts you and smells good to you .

I went and got some Bio-Oil. Am I supposed to use it for jelqing or just apply it after my routine?

Hey dude, don’t worry Mr Happy’s post. Just ignore it, who cares lol

Hey dude, the Forum Guidelines goes for you too.

We attack the ideas, not the poster.

You insult people around here, you won’t be around here long. :leftie:

The idea behind Eroset’s oil was to develop an oil for use with jelqing that would promote circulation and also be kind to sensitive skin. It’s a combination of various essential oils in a neutral base.

When you say Bio-Oil what are your referring to exactly? It’s been a while since I looked at this thread.

I’m referring to the post made by sta-kool (post #9 in this thread).

He wrote:

"Another site I go to (PEGYM) says that "Bio Oil" is pretty much equivalent to EVO. You can get Bio Oil at any walgreens:

http://www.walg reens.com/store … &id=prod3156430

Product website:

Bio-Oil® "

So I decided to order some to test it out.

Thanks for the answer, I think I’ll try it out soon with my jelqing.

Thanks shrubbery.

First, Eroset’s was for use with jelqing.

I just went to the Bio-Oil site and checked their ingredients. The Bio-Oil should be good for jelqing too, but it’s not the same as Eroset’s formulation, which was designed primarily for circulation (because the oils he selected were chosen for their impact on circulation) as it’s primary goal.

The Bio-Oil seems more focused on skin elasticity, firmness and youthful appearance. I’m sure it’s very good on the skin and certainly won’t harm you for jelging.

If you notice Eroset includes lemon oil, for example. This is one of the oils that is supposed to help with circulation.

Does that help?

Maybe there is a slight mix-up here as to what exactly can be used on the skin.

Lavender oil is usually taken as’ Essential oil’ which is highly concentrated and should not be used on the skin. However essential oil of lavender when diluted with water is fully usable on the skin

(It keeps mosquitoes and other nasties away as they are confused by the smell, and cannot sense humans under it)

Hope that helps

Naturally there are other potions that use Lavender oil which has been diluted. But directions should be read before using it.

Mr Happy,

Your causing a contradiction.

You say you attack the ideas, not the poster.

From your previous posts, it’s seem your attacking the poster :O

And how does rolling ones eye attack the idea.

Dude, if you’re going to attack people and call them little boys and roll your eyes, then your just attacking the person.

If you’re attacking the idea, you don’t put people down.

Read the guidelines mate, if you keep attacking people your membership will be gone ;)

Niz007,

I have read Forum Guidelines. You should too.

FYI: the :rolleyes: icon legitimately characterizes how I feel about what the poster was saying; it’s not a personal attack. He may feel that way (if he is especially sensitive), but actually I’ve said nothing against him, just what he has said.

Do you get the difference now?

Just in case you, or anyone else, is confused it’s the difference between saying "this is stupid" and "you are stupid." One is allowed by the Forum Guidelines, and one isn’t.

And, if you read carefully, you’ll see I never called him, or anyone else, a little boy.

Lastly, as you are already on thin ice here, Niz007, I’ll promise you this: if you should decide to give me or any of the other moderators any grief about their moderating habits, we’ll put you on hold. If you feel you have a legitimate beef you can PM me, or Thunder and discuss. Otherwise, straighten up and fly right.

Deal? :leftie:

What petitfaun is saying is basically true. It is not recommended that people use most pure essential oils directly on the skin.

However, lavender oil can usually be tolerated full strength because its chemical composition is uniquely suited to aiding skin repair (there are one or two others as well). Still, most responsible literature on pure essential oils recommends that one test a small patch of skin first, before using it full strength with regularity.

If memory serves, Eroset made a similar recommendation of his formula (even after mixing the pure essential oils with the base oil) in his original thread. It’s generally a good idea to test for any sort of possible allergic reactions before getting carried away.

In any event, what is most often recommended is that an individual dilute a pure essential oil, as petitfaun has said - though usually with a neutral base oil (such as olive oil, or almond oil or safflower oil). Water dilutions do not work well because you have to shake the mixture up. Oil and water, after all. Even if the oil is first cut with alcohol and that mixture is added to water, as in eau du toilet-type mixtures, one does have to make sure to shake them to ensure even distribution of the essences.

Eroset’s formula uses a neutral base oil: olive oil.

It seems to me one could use the Bio-Oil as a base and add some of the other circulation enhancing oils to it, should anyone want to experiment.

There is a lot of good literature about essential oils. Here’s one of the first ones I read when I first started to get into this stuff: The Complete Book of Essential Oils and Aromatherapy .

Enjoy.

Interesting……………….. I didn’t restart the Eroset Vein Oil discussion to have it turn into a dick swingin contest. It’d be nice if people weren’t consistently being threatened to lose there Thundersplace membership, but no one can control how some people decide to communicate.

Back on the original subject at hand though, I got my EVO ingredients and followed the formula to the letter. So far, I got nothin……… I’ve made a couple of modification per the advice of Muscular Beaver with Cinnamon, Cajeput, and Lemon essential oils. I also mixed it with KY warming gel for ease of jelqing. I didn’t think I was getting anything from the oils until I got happy with the Cinnamon. That was a burn I will NEVER forget. Anyway, my next experiment is going to be with Jojoba oil as a carrier since I don’t mind liberally reapplying. The POTENTIAL for Eroset’s Oil is high, but not everything works for everyone. It did open the door to make me research other topical vasodilators and now I’ve got some Arginine gel on the way. I’d personally like to keep this thread going, but I’d prefer to keep the discussion on the Oil and not on who’s in “charge”. Deal?

I forgot to mention, if anyone has any experience with Niacin, could you pass the info on? I’ve got some on the way and it is said with other vasodiolators (Evo, Arginine) it works like magic.