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Flaccid Gains

Originally Posted by jktaylor

Hey guys, I am having good luck with cistanche for increase in flaccid appearance. It’s an herb. I’m a personal trainer and a client told me about it. It’s a long story how the topic came up, but he is fit guy with an average size penis. I see him in the showers. He is average length, but his penis always look full, heavy, kind of bloated actually. He said he takes cistanche powder and it causes it. I asked him for his source and he gave me the site. I ordered it and it is having the same affect on me. I don’t know that I would call it “gains”, but it is sure making my penis hang heavier and fuller! Cheers!

Just been reading about it looks interesting

Not readily available though. Do you take it in tablet or powder form

How long before you notice a change

Been doing PE for about two weeks now and last night I went to the toilet and I was pleasantly surprised to notice an increase of what I assume to be at least an inch in length.
I’m on my off day now and length seems to have gone down to pretty much normal but it’s looking more plump today.

Doing pretty much the newbie routine at the moment just slightly modified, I make little increases in jelqs every week.
Warm up 5 minutes
40 seconds stretch each directions.
1 min BTC stretch
150 Jelqs.

I’m just hoping these temporary gains can turn into something permanent :D

Just saw someone walking around a crowded plaza with gym shorts and seemingly no underwear. Needless to say, the contours of his phallus were clearly visible. And it was of no concern to him because he wasn’t sporting an acorn. Then I got to thinking he’s probably never had to obsess over his penis like I do. Every day. This is where I’d blast off a string of swear words if it wasn’t banned here on the forum.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

Originally Posted by Big Worm
Just saw someone walking around a crowded plaza with gym shorts and seemingly no underwear. Needless to say, the contours of his phallus were clearly visible. And it was of no concern to him because he wasn’t sporting an acorn. Then I got to thinking he’s probably never had to obsess over his penis like I do. Every day. This is where I’d blast off a string of swear words if it wasn’t banned here on the forum.

You mean he never had to obsess over his penis because he had a big one? I’m sure he obsess over it anyway and that is probably why he didn’t have any underwear, well aware that people could see the contours of his dick.

Originally Posted by keybord
You mean he never had to obsess over his penis because he had a big one? I’m sure he obsess over it anyway and that is probably why he didn’t have any underwear, well aware that people could see the contours of his dick.

Agreed.


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Unless our definitions of the word “obsess” are different. Maybe he flaunts it because he’s preoccupied with his penis. But for me at least, obsessing carries with it a degree of shame. Which he seemed to lack.


There's principalities in the whole thing.

OP can you share your technique, routine, PI’s

Originally Posted by zeusonfleek
OP can you share your technique, routine, PI’s

It is all in my signature


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Originally Posted by Big Worm
Unless our definitions of the word “obsess” are different. Maybe he flaunts it because he’s preoccupied with his penis. But for me at least, obsessing carries with it a degree of shame. Which he seemed to lack.

Yea ok, we have a different definition of the word then. There is no degree of shame in the word obsess for me, just that you mind is occupied with allot of thought about a certain thing or person. Obsess - “to think about something unceasingly or persistently”. But I understand what you mean and I agree, he certainly lacked shame.

Originally Posted by Ailurophile
Joined this month. second post links magic penis bloating herbal formulas? Hmmmmmmm.
Sorry, just thinking out loud….

That isn’t exactly the typical post here. I personally ignore them. Some supplements can help but I generally keep far away from anything I haven’t heard of. Especially something that’s the first thing someone has to talk about.


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Originally Posted by thoughtfulgold
That isn’t exactly the typical post here. I personally ignore them. Some supplements can help but I generally keep far away from anything I haven’t heard of. Especially something that’s the first thing someone has to talk about.

It seems that posters here at Thundersplace are good at spotting trolls and charlatans.


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1/17 BPEL 7.75 MSEG ~6.2 BEG 6.75

Size anxiety is the mere response to viewing other males as a threat and the corresponding jealousy it causes. Realize that your feelings are a response to a perceived threat and the anxiety will disappear. My log: Big Booty Extravaganza (and Log)

Un-answered Questions

Great thread! Hoping that some of the still active members jump in with any new insights. Kind of seems like we have theories and anecdotal evidence, but still are not certain about what happens with PE and with ways to optimize gains. In reading all of the new and old threads, it seems like we cycle through the same concepts with the serious members every 5 ish or so years, but without much more clarity.

I think we are better equipped now with our programs and concepts of heat, rest and recovery, but still don’t have a clear way to be able to say what stage we are in and what happens next, kind of like a guide that works for “most people”. Still have people struggle, doubt and get mad about if PE is even possible. Still have a lot of people start, stop, rinse repeat and only attain marginal gains. Still have members imply that others are lying…I don’t think we will ever overcome that, but for the serious (or more determined) participants, I wish we knew more.

Sample Size Of One: Experience Guide

So with the above questioning (and complaining), I will attempt a “general participant guide” that hopefully is enough to get started, but can be improved upon by anyone and everyone as we learn more.

Read, learn, go slow, start out with a mindset of easing into things while you are figuring out what techniques and conditions work best for you. Consider your age, physical conditions, body type, muscular response and commitment level. Tailor your initial routine(s) to these. More important than any other metric is consistency. Gains will come if you are consistent, so stay motivated. If gains are “too” slow, look at your health and your program.

Most likely this will be a slow process. Write down what you are doing and keep records of your results. Adapt your training only after you have data and have seen a clear trend. Gains can and will come in different areas; length, girth, flaccid and erect. These will likely be different for participants based on the above conditions and the effectiveness of your routine. There may be significant differences in gains based on your classification of “Grower vs. Show-er”. Grower gains may initially translate more to erect gains and gains from show-ers may translate more to flaccid gains. Over time, growers transition to show-ers.

Gains can follow this general pattern from a non-conditioned state:

As a Show-er, I first experienced stretched gains, then un-stipulated flaccid gains, then max flaccid gains, then erect gains. My gains followed this pattern without skipping any phases. I targeted erect gains, but had to work into and through these phases. “Growers” may differ in phases and experience erect gains, stretched gains, un-stimulated flaccid gains, then max flaccid gains.

Rates of growth roughly will be (for a show-er): stretched gains: moderate (1-4) months, un-stimulated flaccid gains: fast (1) month, max flaccid: moderately fast (1-2) months, erect: slow (3-6) months. Gains will occur concurrently, so for example, you will still be seeing stretched gains when you are experiencing erect gains. You won’t stop gaining in one phase so that the next one starts.

Gains will generally follow the focus of your routine length vs girth. They are normally regular, but will at times jump significantly and unexpectedly. All of this assumes you are consistent. Missed days and lapses as short as even a couple of days seems to reset everything then it is almost like starting over from the beginning. Gains tend to slow over time, but can also go on for many months.

If your experience is different, please share.

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