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Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
Thanks for sharing. It is true that being uncut makes you more susceptible to aesthetic irregularities, and if you’ve been able to gain what you have with no discernable issues, you’re probably best off maintaining that size (short of getting a circumcision, which I know isn’t for everybody). The reality is that uncircumcised men are prone to experience what is coined the "accordion effect," where the penis has those curtain-like ridges along the shaft skin; some Clinics will even make you sign a waiver to have work done on an uncut dick, and I even know of one that flat out refuses to do any work at all if you aren’t circumcised. Some men have actually gotten adult circumcisions (be sure to consult with your penis enlargement doctor first on the type of circumcision necessary) in order to improve their odds at a successful outcome. I also know for some men the idea of getting circumcised is a sensitive issue, and I’m in no way encouraging that it MUST be done, only that if you were to approach injectable phalloplasty, it’s worth a serious consideration for optimal results.

Getting Hyaluronic Acid (HA) being uncut is probably the best filler choice since it’s technically temporary. If you end up getting an undesirable result, you’re not stuck with it for life (or require invasive surgery to remove it). While I’m a fan of more long-term/permanent fillers like PMMA and Ellanse as well, I personally would NEVER recommend them to uncircumcised men regardless of how skilled or experienced the Practitioner is, but that’s just me.

Being uncircumcised, it can be done aesthetically. It just takes a different approach, and best if you don’t go for too much filler. I would say, it increases the cost as well, unless you live close to a doctor already, that would eliminate the cost of frequent visits due to flight costs, hotels, car rental.

The ideal way to do it is to go in at least three times, maybe four within 4-6 months. Each visit would layer on top of the other. By the end of third visit, you should have the complete penis filled and the fourth would be to hit any low spots that remain.

Before having filler, I thought that my foreskin was tight and thin. Could barely tell that I was uncircumcised when erect. Skin didn’t really hang over the glands often even when flaccid unless I had bad retraction for some reason. After filler, the skin has gotten more thicker and is a lot more noticeable. Not all of the filled areas will slide back during sex. You can only slide it so far back and the filled areas closest to the glands does penetrate with no problem. But there is the mid and base that does move easily and doesn’t. As far as how it looks beside that, it looks good and normal. Just functionally it can be awkward. A condom alleviates the issue because it helps hold all the skin and keeps from bunching up at the base “accordion effect” but at the sacrifice of sensation. Maybe if you are someone that finishes too quick sometimes, that can be a plus.

My first goal was function. I wanted to know what it was like to be almost 5.5” EG and how that would improve my sex life with my wife. Yes, it has been great. I definitely like having the extra girth. But now that it’s been almost one year since my last filler, I am starting to want more aesthetics. I’ve been with my wife 20yrs and it’s at the point where now, that we are having to put more thought into how to turn each other on more. Having a goal to be more longer and look better is so that when she sees it, it’s something that turns her on even more. I never really stopped PE. So I’ve been slowly increasing size for years, but I never been consistent with a program until now. So, it’s been going good.

Circumcision would be a great option. Also open up the possibility of more permanent filler. But costs, risks and healing time (time off from work) makes that option at least for me not worth it. I feel confident that with PE, I can achieve good results without circumcision and more filler.

Oh it can be done successfully on uncircumcised men, I’m only pointing out that being uncut INCREASES the likelihood for aesthetic irregularities (this comes from a sufficient sample size among a number of high volume Clinics, AND my surgical penis enlargement forum that’s been active for over a decade).

The "accordion effect" is an risk inherent to those who have intact foreskin, technique or skill alone won’t necessarily prevent this issue from occurring; but you are right, pursuing this with a conservative approach, using low volumes of temporary filler (like HA) with a practitioner familiar with the aforementioned risks can certainly improve your odds of a desirable outcome.

And congrats on the 5.5" EG. I’ve always been of the camp that believes that size the proverbial "sweet spot" when it comes to girth, and anything more will yield diminishing returns.


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Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
Oh it can be done successfully on uncircumcised men, I’m only pointing out that being uncut INCREASES the likelihood for aesthetic irregularities (this comes from a sufficient sample size among a number of high volume Clinics, AND my surgical penis enlargement forum that’s been active for over a decade).

The "accordion effect" is an risk inherent to those who have intact foreskin, technique or skill alone won’t necessarily prevent this issue from occurring; but you are right, pursuing this with a conservative approach, using low volumes of temporary filler (like HA) with a practitioner familiar with the aforementioned risks can certainly improve your odds of a desirable outcome.

And congrats on the 5.5" EG. I’ve always been of the camp that believes that size the proverbial "sweet spot" when it comes to girth, and anything more will yield diminishing returns.


I must admit I’ve been thinking of having some sort of filler - I’m 5.5" girth (erect), but I’d like my penis to look "plumper" (and bigger) when flaccid. I’m uncircumcised - and the skin ‘round my penis is quite loose, so would fillers help with this? What filler would you recommend? I’d prefer something that last longer.

Originally Posted by SD85
I must admit I’ve been thinking of having some sort of filler - I’m 5.5" girth (erect), but I’d like my penis to look "plumper" (and bigger) when flaccid. I’m uncircumcised - and the skin ‘round my penis is quite loose, so would fillers help with this? What filler would you recommend? I’d prefer something that last longer.

I would recommend circumcision and then PMMA. If not circumcision, I would go with HA and do the multiple sessions back to back to back. I think that’s mainly the issue I had, I couldn’t go as frequent as I should have. I do like the extra girth for sex, but I don’t like the accordion effect. I recommend HA at first, because it gives you the chance to try it out for a few years and see if you actually like it. Can always have it removed or let it diminish on its own.

I would say it does look more thicker flaccid. I guess if you turtle easy tho, it might not look that much different or as good. I don’t that much, so not a big deal for me.

I don’t regret getting it at all, but I do have some hind sight now. I can still go get better results, but I need to make sure I have the finances and time off work set up well. I would have to fly to the clinic at least every other month for two or three trips to layer on top of what I already have. Costly and also, hard to take time off like that. I wish the doctors could do a more top down approach, where the filler started as high as possible from the glands and work down to the base, I think that would be more functional. But they did a base up approach. A lot of usuable girth that way since most of it will move and not even penetrate, plus I don’t like the way it looks as it does that (unless you wear a condom as i stated in earlier posts) I don’t know, I only have experience with one doctor though, I think I have heard of others who are willing to add more at once on uncircumcised guys. After my first procedure, I quickly got the hang of aftercare (after doing lots of research) and learned how to massage and move the filler. I felt I could easily handled more at once and that would have been most cost effective for me. My doctor limited me to 4 units per visit. I think 6 or even 8 wouldn’t have been bad at all. I’ve seen some results of those who did and it’s obvious that good results can be made.

I like to believe I can get good aesthetic results with a good PE program in one year. If I got 1/2” BPEL and 1/4” MSEG increase in one year, that would be great.
More would be better.

Originally Posted by chrisla8

I would recommend circumcision and then PMMA. If not circumcision, I would go with HA and do the multiple sessions back to back to back.

Thanks for your reply. The main thing I’d worry about with circumcision is the scarring and overall aesthetic. Also, I’ve read quite a few horror-stories RE. Getting circumcised as an adult - and many wishing they hadn’t had it done 🥴.

Originally Posted by SD85
Thanks for your reply. The main thing I’d worry about with circumcision is the scarring and overall aesthetic. Also, I’ve read quite a few horror-stories RE. Getting circumcised as an adult - and many wishing they hadn’t had it done 🥴.

It’s not easy finding information from clinics and procedures. You can find a lot of experiences where they ended up with decreased length after circumcision procedure too. I heard about laser circumcision before, was kinda interested, but not a whole lot on it.

The filler procedure itself is not bad at all. In and out quickly, some aftercare and thats it. The aftercare is mostly to assist the filler to form right and even. I cant see any real issues with filler besides undesired results, and that can be mitigated with a good plan and good aftercare. The doctor is working on a flaccid penis. He injects where he sees fit, my issue is that on an uncircumcised penis, what you see flaccid is mostly gonna pull back during sex. The doctor wants aesthetics mostly and will do it the way he seems fit, which in my mind isn’t as functionally effective. That’s with the layered approach in smaller filler quantities. I don’t know if maybe doing more at once would be better. A lot of doctors will shy away from that, but I heard of some who gotten more in one session from other forums the results seems good.

Originally Posted by SD85
Getting circumcised as an adult - and many wishing they hadn’t had it done.

I’m perfectly happy with the circumcision done when I was a baby. But some guys apparently got butcher jobs, including some who have posted here. A few of the adult circumcisions were botches to the point where if it had been me, a baseball bat and linoleum knife would have been on the table as far as "customer complaint."

Anyone thinking about getting an adult circumcision needs to go over *exactly* what he expects with the urologist, instead of simply assuming they know what they’re doing. Because too many of them apparently have no fucking clue.

Originally Posted by AndyJ
I’m perfectly happy with the circumcision done when I was a baby. But some guys apparently got butcher jobs, including some who have posted here. A few of the adult circumcisions were botches to the point where if it had been me, a baseball bat and linoleum knife would have been on the table as far as "customer complaint."

Anyone thinking about getting an adult circumcision needs to go over *exactly* what he expects with the urologist, instead of simply assuming they know what they’re doing. Because too many of them apparently have no fucking clue.

This is a VERY good point.

There is a way to do the circumcision that preserves most of the sensitive inner foreskin.

In general though, I just don’t understand why you would ever want to have a squishy, swollen/lumpy cock with a disproportionately small head from using fillers.
It doesn’t actually increase the size of your penis, it just swells up the tissues outside of the penis and makes it squishy/blubbery. Like your dick got fat.

Especially when there are techniques like pumping and manual squeezes that can actually increase your useable girth and make your actual cock bigger.

Women care far less about size than men do. They just care that it’s not on the farthest extremes, that it gets hard, it’s clean, and it looks normal.


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2018: BPEL: 6.7in EG: 5.3in

NOW (start 1/2024): BPEL: 6.9in. EG: 5.4in

Originally Posted by richardfitswell
This is a VERY good point.

There is a way to do the circumcision that preserves most of the sensitive inner foreskin.

In general though, I just don’t understand why you would ever want to have a squishy, swollen/lumpy cock with a disproportionately small head from using fillers.
It doesn’t actually increase the size of your penis, it just swells up the tissues outside of the penis and makes it squishy/blubbery. Like your dick got fat.

Especially when there are techniques like pumping and manual squeezes that can actually increase your useable girth and make your actual cock bigger.

Women care far less about size than men do. They just care that it’s not on the farthest extremes, that it gets hard, it’s clean, and it looks normal.

So true.


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Originally Posted by richardfitswell

In general though, I just don’t understand why you would ever want to have a squishy, swollen/lumpy cock with a disproportionately small head from using fillers.

It doesn’t actually increase the size of your penis, it just swells up the tissues outside of the penis and makes it squishy/blubbery. Like your dick got fat.

Yeah - most of the examples/before and after photos don’t look great. I think guys overdo it though. I’d just like a "plumper" flaccid penis - like how it looks if you have a semi (or a "quarter", lol).

In my sincere opinion, most work done I’ve seen through the Doctors I’ve vetted are generally pretty acceptable and passable. The idea is to set goals that won’t be so dramatic as to warrant detection.

From following the scene for well over a decade, it’s exceedingly rare that anyone ever gets called out for getting work done because (1) it’s not mainstream enough to scrutinize a thick unit (like you would with larger than usual breasts on a woman) and (2) penises come in such variety (size, shape, curvature, veins/contour, glans-shaft proportion, coloration/discoloration, scrotal webbing, etc) that it would take a bit of going overboard to raise an eyebrow.

Also, if you are in a serious, committed (e.g. married) relationship, these aesthetic concerns are legitimately of no concern; and those who are single, you can shoot for modest gains (0.5"-0.75") without necessarily sacrificing enough natural aesthetics to worry about detection. I’ve always argued that if you act like you have something to hide, you’ll invite suspicion. Otherwise, getting some work done and carrying it with confidence, trust me, the only thing she’ll remember is how you filled her up.

If you are hyper-critical of your penis’s aesthetics, male phalloplasty is not for you (that isn’t to say there aren’t stellar results that are virtually undetectable), and/or if you are hyper-sensitive to risk, this area of cosmetic medicine is also likely not for you. I think it’s best for: (1) the notably under-average; (2) hard-gainers; and (3) those who simply don’t have the time and/or privacy to commit to the month or year long endeavor that is manual PE exercising, and can afford the associated costs of male phalloplasty.

Heck, as I think I’ve mentioned before, Hyaluronic Acid (HA) injections are a great starting point if you are on the fence as they are somewhat reversible and temporary (so you aren’t stuck with it for more than 2ish years if you dislike your results). Other options are longer lasting or permanent and would consider a greater degree of evaluation, but viable nonetheless. Just avoid any option involving silicone, be it silicone oil filler or silicone implants.

What remains true is that girth is solved without doubt, something that I had hoped for ever since creating my username here on Thundersplace. This is true both surgically and non-surgically, with the latter taking an hour or less with a week’s downtime & recovery — all while having been demonstrably effective and relatively safe when performed by experienced practitioners using modern techniques. Perfect? Rarely. Ideal? Wishful thinking. Best option to date (especially concerning girth)? … absolutely.


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Originally Posted by Determined2Gain
That’s right. I’m approaching 13 years having gone from Trojan’s skinniest condoms to being unable to wear Magnum XL’s comfortably, I can’t imagine the tedious, risky, and psychological ridiculousness that comes with committing to years of methods that may or may not work, with no guaranteed timeframe. Oh and it didn’t take 13 years, it took only a few. I just point out the 13 years to point out the lack of complications since.

Let’s keep it real. Yes, I absolutely believe girth exercises can and do work for some here. And yes, I would probably recommend it over my methodology if we all knew it was performed in such a way (correct technique, intensity, and frequency) as to reduce chances of injury, but we can’t, and none of this stuff is standardized.

If you are sub-5inches circumference and are looking to be in excess of 6-inches in girth, then drop the pump, hanger, or clamp, and acknowledge that maybe… just maybe… girth enhancement WORKS in the most efficacious manner to date, proven by undeniable data ranging over a decade. I’m not speaking of Penuma (Elist & Company) nor Silicone Oil (Loria & Company), but rather, vetted practitioners & innovators in the field of male phalloplasty offering either:
(1) dermal fillers (non-surgical) that include: Hyaluronic Acid (HA), PMMA, Radiesse, Renuva, Ellanse, and Megafill;
(2) dermal grafts (surgical) that include: Alloderm, Surgimend (possibly under recall, but not for reasons of ineffectiveness), and Megaderm that act as tissue scaffolds;
(3) studied-backed (non-surgical) Protocols like P-Long and PhalBack.

These procedures are NOT without risk, but nor are exercises that put stress on (penile) tissues that otherwise are NOT muscles in the conventional sense. I’d contend/argue that spending 2+ years pushing your boundaries in manual PE is less likely to yield significant gains than seeing a qualified practitioner in the field of male phalloplasty.

I’ll concede that if you gain too significantly (compared to your original size), you may indeed sacrifice some naturalness (aesthetically). However, in most cases this is usually overlooked/unnoticed by partners who are having a great time in bed, or by men who choose not to go overboard. Partners that do question it, simply tell them it’s a congenital or an injury condition, and the case is closed.

I was compelled to post this after I realized how tough girth is (relative to length) to gain, and how SOLVED it has been despite guys going on and on about heat, conditioning, routines, and "what size is best," despite the obvious success of girth enhancement via male phalloplasty.

There will be those who wish to retain naturalness 100% and I respect that, but they also likely have the luxury of time & privacy commitments. I’m not discouraging those, and as I’ve said previously, it can work. However, for the many of use who may start thinner-than-preferred and wish to be larger-than-average may want to re-examine their approach. Sure, cost is high in this regard, but it’s akin to acquiring a luxury sports car, but at a fraction of the cost. So ask yourself, or better yet, tell me why I might be misguided in this regard.

Cheers.

This thread goes against community standards. We’re not supposed to push surgeries. Congrats if yours was a success. Between Clamping hanging and pumping I’ve gone from 4/75" girth to right below 6" currently. Sure, you can use surgery to get your abs sketched too, like Drake. Or you can put in the work. To be fair I can completely afford the surgery, in cash. Even thought about it a lot in the past, but I’m quite proud having mine without weird fillers or being cut open now that I’ve reached what actually feels heavy in my hand and can clearly feel vagina stretch around it. Try the nautral way first 100%


September 1, 2016 - BPEL: 6.675in MSEG 4.75in EL: 5.5in FG 3.75in FL 3.5in

November 28, 2023 - BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 5.75 EL: 8.5in FG 5.0in FL 5.25in

PE Goal - (set 9-1-2016) BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 6.5in EL: 8.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in | NEW PE Goal - (set 11-28-23) BPEL 9.25in MSEG 6.5in EL 9.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in

Originally Posted by Deepwrath31
This thread goes against community standards. We’re not supposed to push surgeries. Congrats if yours was a success. Between Clamping hanging and pumping I’ve gone from 4/75" girth to right below 6" currently. Sure, you can use surgery to get your abs sketched too, like Drake. Or you can put in the work. To be fair I can completely afford the surgery, in cash. Even thought about it a lot in the past, but I’m quite proud having mine without weird fillers or being cut open now that I’ve reached what actually feels heavy in my hand and can clearly feel vagina stretch around it. Try the nautral way first 100%

Well… a few things:

(1) This isn’t surgery I was discussing. It’s a tried & true (non-surgical) method with overwhelming & demonstrable evidence of its success. Yes, there are risks associated and not all results are created equal, but the same could be said for the risks involved in "natural" methodologies too. One Doctor told me he’s dealt with Peyronie’s patients (plural) as a result of strenuous long-term exercising (probably by those not listening to their P.I.’s) manual exercises, so no means is perfect.

(2) Community Standards? I don’t recall the Forum Guidelines banning the topic of penis enlargement through non-surgical & surgical means. Prior to the creation of the PhalloBoards, Thundersplace was the only place you could go to, for as good as information as you could find on the subject matter. By "standards" I think you might be misconstruing it for the word "sentiments," which was true many years ago; however attitudes have been changing, especially in light of the advances made in this area.

(3) This thread is 3 months old — if it was so against Community "Standards," the Moderators would have made it clear. Furthermore, why would I receive a Commercial Account designation if the subject topic I typically chime in on (because it is my area of expertise) was against any rules or guidelines?

I laid out my motivations for why I posted this topic in my original post, and for some men, this is a more appealing and practical route; let’s not forget that there are some among us who are either [a] hard-gainers who have exhausted other methods over the years; [b] significantly below average in girth (with no guarantees of success via manual PE); and [c] busy men with disposable income who simply don’t have time to commit to a rigorous PE routine.

That said, this is not for everyone and no procedure is without risk.


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Originally Posted by Deepwrath31

This thread goes against community standards. We’re not supposed to push surgeries. Congrats if yours was a success. Between Clamping hanging and pumping I’ve gone from 4/75" girth to right below 6" currently. Sure, you can use surgery to get your abs sketched too, like Drake. Or you can put in the work. To be fair I can completely afford the surgery, in cash. Even thought about it a lot in the past, but I’m quite proud having mine without weird fillers or being cut open now that I’ve reached what actually feels heavy in my hand and can clearly feel vagina stretch around it. Try the nautral way first 100%

Hey Deepwrath… great girth gains! What is (or was) your pumping and clamping routine?


Start: BPEL 6.7" MSEG 4.8"

Now: BPEL 8.6" MSEG 5.7"

Goal: BPEL 9.0" MSEG 6.0"

I’ve gone from 4.75" girth to right over 5.75" approaching 6"
Natural from PE (Hanging, Clamping, Uli, & Jelq) is all I’ve ever needed and I continue to gain.
Looks completely natural too because it is.

I’ve considered the surgical option as well; and can easily afford it (it’s only a few thousand dollars)
However, I’m so close to hitting 9" x 6.5" naturally I just don’t think it’s worth surgical risks personally.
FYI: Pretty sure surgery talk use to be banned from our site. Not sure if it’s still the case.


September 1, 2016 - BPEL: 6.675in MSEG 4.75in EL: 5.5in FG 3.75in FL 3.5in

November 28, 2023 - BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 5.75 EL: 8.5in FG 5.0in FL 5.25in

PE Goal - (set 9-1-2016) BPEL: 8.5in MSEG 6.5in EL: 8.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in | NEW PE Goal - (set 11-28-23) BPEL 9.25in MSEG 6.5in EL 9.0in FG 5.5in FL 6in

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