Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

Hi again,
I wanted to ask your advise on combining pumping and clamping. I would start with hear for 5 mins. Then clamp for 7 mins while edging. Then dry jelq for a min. Then wait 3-5 mins and pump at low pressure for 7 mins. Then end it with a 7 min clamp session. I just don’t want to over do it. But like the gain from 5.25 to 6" girth

Dry jelq for a minute? Jaam. my friend, there is no exercise that can do anything long lasting doing it for just 1 minute (at least for the penis). I would keep it as simple as possible. Pick up the exercise that you like the most and add jelqs (wet or dry, doesn’t make much of a difference) to it. The combo will be effective.

Don’t do pumping and clamping in the same routine, you’ll never know what is working and what not.

Gotcha. Thanks

I can’t go in the tube fully hard because my dick doesn’t fit in, but from my personal and short pumping experience I can say for me, it’s definitely better pumping with harder erections.
With flaccid pumping I reach 6.3” length in the tube, my post pumping erections are softer, I get red spots more easily and I get more edema.
Going harder in the tube let me get to 6.75” and my penis seems to tolerate pressure and time much better.
I’d like to try fully hard pumping and check out the differences.

For those that may postulate, what is happening differently to the structures of the penis when one pumps semierect versus flaccid or more limp?

Has it ever been possible to confirm cell growth, either tissue or vascular that occurs specifically with pumping?

I guess the chemical component of an errection. The chemicals give the edge to the erection. There is jsut so much you can get mechanical.

Its like I wondered if I can get an errection jsut by using the kegel muscles (IC and BC). Not gonna happen I think.

It sure would be nice if it worked that way though. Total conscious on/off switch would be awesome!

Unlike women- open legs, expose hole, guy gets off whether they’re turned on or not. Noooo! We have to get, maintain erection and go until they decide to get off. Who devised that system anyway!!!

Well I feel like I could manage to kegel pump a 90% EQ by will but the full erection needs brain induced chemicals.
Interestingly with a clamp its possible to get to 100% and beyond without the chemicals. But a pump at least at the levels I pump can not do it for me from going in totally flaccid to 100+ erection.

If woman had pressure to perform on a body level, like we need an erection, to procreate it would probably halt reproduction. Its enough they already have a brain ^^

To give my history somewhat, I have done everything except hanging

I had been pumping for many months and saw much temporary expansion but nothing really lasting in the girth department.. But thanks to Titleist I started clamping.. Or should I say shoe lacing (can’t get clamps in my country and they won’t seem to ship them). Anyway I really think the two helped each other alot because my girth has increased dramatically. That is to say where the soft expansion of the penis pump has been replace by a very very solid girth. Its actually too much for my girl now.

Take from this what you will

That is very confidence inspiring about your succes with clamping. I will definitely be keeping that in mind after achieving length goals. Interesting about the difficulty of getting such devices shipped to Ireland. As it is said, God created alcohol to keep the Irish from taking over the world. Perhaps the powers that be disallow such PE devices from being sent to prevent your countrymen from putting the world to shame with the trouser Shillelagh.

Fewww.. I read the whole thread, some very interesting discussions and great posts there (tunica, fluid/blood plasma etc..) .

I have one or two thoughts to share.
Big gyrtha reached a full blown erection, clamped as tight as possible and let it subside, so that it was girthier than erect but in a flaccid state (the few times I tried that I hated it).
So could we consider this clamping set as girth work on an unloaded tunica?

Does an increased length in the cylinder prove a great stretching force is applied to the tunica lengthwise, and therefore, girthwise? I believe it makes sense.

If we believe pudendum and sparkyx hypothesis, wouldn’t cycle pumping be the best way to work on the tunica? That is, enter the tube half erect, quickly reach a high vacuum for 10-20 seconds, and then back down to 1-2 hg for a few minutes before repeating this stretch. Doing this I feel we would stretch an unloaded tunica greatly .

I recently started pumping, and have used this technique only for a week, but I just reached 1.5 cm further in the tube than when I pumped at low hg. Every cycle seem to allow me to pull further , when I back down to 1-3 hg for a few minutes, length decreases but is still longer than before the high pressure peak. For example I just finished my set, and at the end of it, when I stayed around 2-3 hg, I maintained a length a cm longer than my bpel.
Edema is minimal, I end up with thicker skin but no donut.

That is called dynamic pumping these days, I think. I don’t get why it should be any better than ‘regular’ pumping. Take into the account that first times you try something different, it will work better, for a while; for example, if an air pumper switches to water pumping, first times he will have a fuller post-pumping penis, but after a while he wll find water pumping isn’t any better than air pumping. It is just that you are not accustomed to that stimulus.

I am not really getting what you mean with ‘unloaded’ tunica. When your penis is stretched, a force is stretching the tunica. A load is a force.

In the earlier discussion pudendum and sparkyx suggested working on lower erection level = pliable tunica = unloaded tunica could provide better results . So dynamic pumping would allow to reach a very pliable state when at 2 hg, and then the quick increase in vacuum would stretch this highly compliant tunica.

Pliability of tunica is inversely proportional to how much is stretched. The supposed advantage of a more pliable tunica disappears when you expand it. I always found this hypothesis of the ‘unloaded’ tunica inconsistent. When there is less blood in your penis, it can be stretched lengthwise more easily, tha’ts all.

Then I don’t understand how comes I reach more than the normal size of my erections inside the tube, and exit the tube instantly flaccid when I drop the vacuum to 0, if I was in an erect state it would last for a while wouldn’t it?

What about becoming flaccid during a clamping set?