Girth theory: Pumping vs. clamping

Vets & Mods: everything has been discussed already, I know. I just want to discuss THIS with THOSE who wish to. Thank you.

Clamping: Increases pressure and volume inside the penis and therefor stretches the tunica directly.

Pumping: Decreases the Pressure surrounding the penis and thereby indirectly increases the volume. However, this volume effect can occur, at least in part, via expansion of the tissue between the skin and the tunica without affecting the tunica much.

Conclusion: at comparable pressure difference (and possible tissue damage) clamping should be a more effective girth routine.

Your opinion? (Except tat it’s been discussed in the past :) ).

I’ve gained a hell of a lot more from clamping than I have from pumping. Actually I have abandoned pumping because even at 3hg I get a reasonable amount of lymph buildup with little to no expansion.

My experience with pumping resulted in poor erection quality. It started pretty much after the first short session at low pressure and got progressively worse. Needless to say the negative PI’s (or should I say NI’s) were screaming and I abandoned the pump as quickly as I started. PM me if you wanna buy it. :)

Clamping on the other hand was very effective when it was part of my routine. I like clamping because it’s an easy exercise to perform. It’s also great seeing your unit maxed out like that during a session. In my experience the I think the post-workout wrap was critical in cementing the gains during that time. On the down side, wrapping is a pain in the ass. Especially if you’re trying to keep it on all day. For the record, clamping is the only exercise that caused me to get a Thrombosed vein. Obviously there’s no shock there. I knew walking in that T-veins are a risk you take while clamping. I’ll be clamping again soon once I’ve reached my length goal.

Short answer: Clamping == Best Girth Exercise

AHopeful1:

I’m sorry that pumping did not work out for you.

By the way, the “P” in PI is for “physiological”, not “positive”, so “negative PI” would be more accurate and descriptive than “NI”.

I’ve tried pumping and clamping. I have the same your’ thought, ttt: the pressure created by the pump is less effective because it’s partially absorbed by the intra-skin space.

I had also worsen erections when pumping; I think the pump in someway “teach” to your penis working in un-natural mode: the penis is not filled with blood by the penis itself, but it’s the pump that engorge the penis, so the mechanism that cause erection start (just for say) to “atrophies” (I know it’s not clear, but I hope somebody can understand what I’m saying).
That’s all.

Marinera -

I completely agree with you. In order to achieve good expansion in a pumping session I need pressures that result in massive fluid build-up. To avoid this I have been using wrapping. This is quite successful to avoid fluid build-up but hinders expansion as well.

The only advantage I can see is that you can pump and do something else while clamping requires full attention to achieve and maintain a perfect erection. However, that seems to be much more rewarding than pumping.

So, perhaps, considering that pumping isn’t as effective because it fills the area between the skin and the tunica (correct me if I’m wrong, I’m not that well versed in the anatomy of the penis, although after I’m done writing this I will go study up some more) with blood instead of filling the tunica (which is ideal?) it is not as effective as clamping… then perhaps to make pumping as effective as possible it should be done while clamped?

IE: Simultaneous pumping and clamping? This is probably a super advanced, super dangerous exercise, but I’ve read about it here before. Would the clamp minimize the blood trapped between the blood and the tunica, and therefore increase the amount of blood within the tunica itself while pumping? Or perhaps would it just increase the amount of blood both in the tunica and between the skin?

As a newbie still on the newbie routine I don’t know much, but considering girth is my main goal I’ll probably explore both pumping and clamping in the next 1-2 months or so.

I have been thinking about this as well. Never tried though. Mainly because I am afraid that pumping wouldn’t add much (except tissue swelling ( edema / doughnut effect.

I think you’d have a heck of a time getting a cylinder to seal around a clamp.

I’ve tried pumping with a cock ring to achieve somewhat the same effect but soon abandoned that also because of the fluid buildup

Pumping provides the least-permanent gains of any form of PE; followed next by clamping. Both tend to bring little more than fluid buildup and/or swelling via tissue trauma. I still believe, however, that clamping can be used effectively as an accesory (do a good pe workout, then clamp at moderate intensity afterwards to: 1) minimize the turtling and, 2) to maintain higher-than-usual pressure against the tunica for a much longer time than the actual pe workout (sort of a low-level, time-intensive process).

I always found pumping and clamping to go good with one another, sort of like pumping and jelqing. Although, it’s easy to fatigue your penis doing pumping and clamping in the same session.

Do you feel the same way about Ulis? I’ve been under the impression that clamping is just an extreme form of Uli, correct? So is an Uli more effective than clamping (because it doesn’t create as much pressure/isn’t held as long) or does it fall under the same category as clamping? And if so, what do you suggest for girth? Again I was under the impression Ulis and clamping were the holy grails of girth gains. Would you suggest erect jelqing and obends?

I’m really looking for non time-intensive workouts. Something I can do at low intensity for ten minutes for a month, then up it 15 minutes, then max out at twenty. Then up the intensity of the workout and drop it back down to ten minutes, and so on. Not necessarily exactly like this, but something to this extent. I don’t really want the “core” of my workout to last any longer than 30 minutes, excluding the 10-15 minute warm ups and downs afterwards. So really no longer than an hour or so. Time spans of 2-3 hours really aren’t reasonable for me.

I’m not totally opposed to increasing the length of a workout beyond an hour, but I really only see this as a last resort for when my gains plateau.

There are folks here who have got good, solid gains from both techniques.

I believe PEForeal got all his gians from pumping. avocet and supersizeit also got a lot from the pump.

Lymph build up is a natural side-effect of pumping, but that seems to happen most often as a resulting side-effect of using pressure levels that are too high. Same with any erection problems.

In my experience, I found I injured myself more easily with a clamp and then had erection issues subsequent to that. I haven’t gained appreciably from clamping. The same cannot be said for the pump. In my case, even when I’ve overdone it with the pump and had a donut effect, etc., erections have been fine.

When I’ve gone overboard with the clamp I had to take a break from PE while I healed up.

I’m leery of putting clamping up as a “superior” exercise as it seems that it has greater potential for serious injury. But I will concede that for those that can tolerate it, it can yield good gains.

I agree with Mr. Happy, do what works best for you. I have never had any type of erection problems from pumping. In fact, I’ve only gotten better erections because of pumping. You just have to maintain a decent erection in the tube.

As far as fluid build up. I’ve been clamping for the past month or so (since my wife changed her work schedule, I don’t have time to break out the pump anymore), and I seem to get fluid build up from clamping as well. I have even experienced several donuts. I thinks it’s inherent when trying to engorge the penis with fluids.

Bottom line as to which is the best. Like Mr. Happy said, It’s up to the user. As for me, pumping is still my favorite.